Krokodil, the Russian 'flesh-eating' drug, makes a rare appearance in Australia

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Krokodil, the Russian 'flesh-eating' drug, makes a rare appearance in Australia

Post by The Reboot » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:29 pm

young man recently turned up at a rural drug and alcohol service in New South Wales seeking help because of an infection in his arm.

He said he had injected the drug Krokodil, which had not previously been reported in Australia.
So, what is it?

Krokodil is a street name for desomorphine, a semi-synthetic drug that has similar effects to heroin and morphine.

It's called semi-synthetic because it is created in a chemical process but it's made primarily from a drug, usually codeine, that comes from the opium poppy.

The short-term effects of Krokodil include relaxation, euphoria, slow and shallow breathing, and pain and swelling at the injection site.

The long-term effects can include blood clots, swollen veins, severe tissue damage, skin and muscle infections that cause black or green scaly skin around injection sites, sleeplessness, exhaustion, physical and psychological dependence, memory loss, speech problems, gangrene and death.

People who use Krokodil are usually injecting opioid drugs such as heroin or prescription painkillers.

These drugs cause physical and psychological dependence that drives people to seek out any similar product when withdrawal symptoms kick in.

Krokodil is usually injected but can be swallowed. It takes two to three minutes to have an effect that lasts about two hours.
A bit of history

Desomorphine was first made in 1932 in the United States by scientists testing the effects of different types of morphine on rats and mice. It was found to be strong, short-acting, and caused less nausea than morphine.

Desomorphine is eight to 10 times stronger than morphine (1mg of desomorphine has the same effect as 10mg of morphine).

Trials of desomorphine on people started in 1934.

People with cancer were given desomorphine to see whether it could control their pain.

It did work but only for a short time, about two to three hours, and higher doses did not make it last any longer.

Tests for dependence on desomorphine found that tolerance increased rapidly, so more was needed for the same effect. It causes physical dependence after about 10 days of regular use and leads to similar withdrawal symptoms to morphine and heroin.

Desomorphine was used in Russia and Switzerland to treat strong pain until 1981 under the brand name Permonid, but disappeared from use as other drugs delivered fewer side effects and more effective pain relief.

Desomorphine is not currently used in medical practice.

Desomorphine as Krokodil

The first reported use of desomorphine as Krokodil was in Russia in 2003. Krokodil was thought to be popular among people who injected drugs in Russia because codeine was available without a prescription and heroin was scarce.

Krokodil often contains drugs containing codeine or other opioids mixed with things like paint thinner, petrol, the red tips from matches, and hydrochloric acid.

The mixture is then heated.

The chemical reactions caused by cooking makes a stronger product than the codeine it started with. A yellowish to light brown liquid is produced with a strong acid-like smell.

The name Krokodil is thought to come from a step in the cooking process where codeine turns into a chemical called a-Chlorocodide, and also because it often causes ulcers and scaly skin that looks like crocodile skin where it has been injected.
Horrifying reactions

In 2012, over-the-counter codeine was banned in Russia and reports of Krokodil use declined. But between 2013 and 2015, media reports of Krokodil use in the United States and the United Kingdom gave the impression its use remained widespread.

The reports focused on the skin infections and examples of gangrene said to be related to the drug.

They referred to Krokodil as a flesh-eating drug and suggested users became zombies.

Poor injecting practices and poisons cause skin and vein problems, including infections, in people injecting any type of drug. But injuries from Krokodil can be more serious.

These effects are caused by the toxic chemicals used during the homemade drug process.

The symptoms are exacerbated when people using Krokodil don't seek treatment soon enough, or don't return for follow-up care, probably because of their heavy involvement in drug use.

The infections can be treated if caught soon enough and monitored.
Medical case reports have identified infections and rotting skin down to the bone at injection sites. This can include jaw osteonecrosis (jawbone exposure in the mouth) where ulcers and skin infections have affected a person's gums.

Many people who have injected Krokodil into their mouths require surgery to cut away the tissue and sometimes infected parts of the jawbone.

Some people have died within three years of starting to use the drug because of infections.
Is a Krokodil crisis coming to Australia?

In 2016, police and health representatives said there were no reports of Krokodil in Australia even though the media had warned of the possibility.

Drug-monitoring programs have not reported Krokodil use.

The appearance of Krokodil in rural NSW has probably got more to do with an entrepreneurial drug dealer making up for a shortage of opioids than widespread manufacture and use of the drug.

This article originally appeared on The Conversation.
Source here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-20/ ... a/11226686

Not a very well known substance, as you can see, but truly terrifying. Let's hope this doesn't become the next epidemic.

It's interesting to note that whenever they synthesize drugs these days, with the intent that it "could be better than the original" it is in fact not. Many people have died from legalised "synthetic" stuff, i.e Kronic (synthetic cannabis, which isn't actually cannabis but a variation of herbs such as damiana, passionflower etc coated or sprayed with the synthetic cannabis, thus causing the "high", "bath salts" (synthetic cocaine reportedly turned people into flesh-eating zombies) and some "legal" pills which I confess, am not sure what was in them but purchased easily in a sex shop one day, no dramas, for an outdoor concert. My experience with the drug was positive and I felt amazing, but I was one of the lucky ones. :lol:
And back in the "Kronic" days, I consumed it quite heavily. Back when it was legal. I went broke because of it, and experienced severe memory loss and was losing my hair.

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Re: Krokodil, the Russian 'flesh-eating' drug, makes a rare appearance in Australia

Post by Black Orchid » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:48 pm

God and I thought Ice was bad. Let's hope this crap doesn't take hold here. Bloody Russians.

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Re: Krokodil, the Russian 'flesh-eating' drug, makes a rare appearance in Australia

Post by The Reboot » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:53 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:48 pm
God and I thought Ice was bad. Let's hope this crap doesn't take hold here. Bloody Russians.
Oh tsk tsk, dearie dearie me. So xenophobic, Black Orchid. :roll:



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Re: Krokodil, the Russian 'flesh-eating' drug, makes a rare appearance in Australia

Post by Texan » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:14 am

We had it briefly in Dallas a couple of years ago. I haven't heard anything about it since, so I suspect they found the source and shut it off. I've never done drugs, so I wouldn't know for sure. I very rarely even drink alcohol.

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Re: Krokodil, the Russian 'flesh-eating' drug, makes a rare appearance in Australia

Post by Valkie » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:45 pm

It could be a good thing

Thin out the ranks of idiot drug addicts.

Could be the saviour we need.
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Re: Krokodil, the Russian 'flesh-eating' drug, makes a rare appearance in Australia

Post by FLEKTARN » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:06 pm

That's old news. At least 5 years old. Something like the American - Flakka "zombie drug"
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Re: Krokodil, the Russian 'flesh-eating' drug, makes a rare appearance in Australia

Post by FLEKTARN » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:07 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:48 pm
God and I thought Ice was bad. Let's hope this crap doesn't take hold here. Bloody Russians.
More bullshit posts from you. Of course you'd trash Russia but you won't be objective at all and you won't say anything at all about the Western drugs. Typical Western shit propaganda.

If I was an admin, I wouldn't lose credibility this way by being so biased. Being biased is stupid.

https://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/26/heal ... index.html
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/w ... t-13033785
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Re: Krokodil, the Russian 'flesh-eating' drug, makes a rare appearance in Australia

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:25 pm

FLEKTARN wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:07 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:48 pm
God and I thought Ice was bad. Let's hope this crap doesn't take hold here. Bloody Russians.
More bullshit posts from you. Of course you'd trash Russia but you won't be objective at all and you won't say anything at all about the Western drugs. Typical Western shit propaganda.

If I was an admin, I wouldn't lose credibility this way by being so biased. Being biased is stupid.

https://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/26/heal ... index.html
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/w ... t-13033785
Keep your knickers on geez. It was a throw away line and what us Aussies do. It was not literal and not meant to "trash" Russia. If you don't understand Aussie nuance you shouldn't post on Aussie forums.

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Re: Krokodil, the Russian 'flesh-eating' drug, makes a rare appearance in Australia

Post by The Reboot » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:35 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:25 pm
FLEKTARN wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:07 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:48 pm
God and I thought Ice was bad. Let's hope this crap doesn't take hold here. Bloody Russians.
More bullshit posts from you. Of course you'd trash Russia but you won't be objective at all and you won't say anything at all about the Western drugs. Typical Western shit propaganda.

If I was an admin, I wouldn't lose credibility this way by being so biased. Being biased is stupid.

https://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/26/heal ... index.html
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/w ... t-13033785
Keep your knickers on geez. It was a throw away line and what us Aussies do. It was not literal and not meant to "trash" Russia. If you don't understand Aussie nuance you shouldn't post on Aussie forums.
He's a sensitive little boy, that one :lol:

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Re: Krokodil, the Russian 'flesh-eating' drug, makes a rare appearance in Australia

Post by The Reboot » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:36 pm

Valkie wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:45 pm
It could be a good thing

Thin out the ranks of idiot drug addicts.

Could be the saviour we need.
While some have the willpower to overcome their addictions, I think you would have to be extremely stupid to get on this shit. At least deliberately. In that case nature should take its course.

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