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What our Universities are teaching about sharia law!

Post by Black Orchid » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:59 pm

As part of Muslim Minorities And The Law, professors Salim Farrar and Dr Ghena Krayem are teaching Sydney University students how polygamy and lowering the age of consent could be sufficiently applied to Western civilisation.

The course uses a book, written by the professors, that promotes the idea that “sharia law and common law are not inherently incompatible”.

A portion of the textbook identifies the benefits of turning away from monogamous relationships and notes how sharia law does not recognise the minimum age in marriage.

“There is no minimum age for a contract of marriage, but it should not be consummated if that would cause harm to the putative spouse,” the book reads.

“Whilst some have argued that there may be reasons for changing marriage laws to include polygamous marriages… there have not been any proposals for any legislative amendment proposed by the Muslim communities in our Common Law jurisdictions.”

Sharia law is Islam’s most religious law and the prospect of its integration into western civilisation has long been condemned given its sometimes radical sentencing recommendations.

However, the Sydney academics believe otherwise.

“When we move to actual recognition in the courts, we will argue that there is much evidence of compatibility… we will suggest that ‘accommodation’ is not enough and that as liberal democratic societies, we should move towards notion of ‘recognition’,” they state in their book.

The law course also takes aim at judges for denouncing Muslim values during sentencing.

“Where found guilty of transgressing Western values, for example in gender equality, or violating national security, courts have clearly communicated their denunciation of ‘traditional’ or conservative Muslim values when sentencing, dispensing exemplary sentences and announcing aggravating factors, even when the written law does not explicitly demand it.”

A university spokesman told News Corp the course was optional and would offer students a basic understanding of the sources of Islamic law.
https://israelislamandendtimes.com/sydn ... alian-law/

I know a couple here will fully approve of this but, if they do, it shreds any argument they have ever made in their pro islam stance.

Nah they don't want sharia law. :roll: :roll:

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Post by Black Orchid » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:09 pm

Mark Latham on the topic ...
The University of Sydney teaches students how Sharia law fits in Australian law.

Media commentator Mark Latham has blasted the university he graduated from for teaching its students that Sharia law is compatible with Australia’s legal system.

The former Labor leader says the University of Sydney‘s elite law school’s course on Sharia law undermined the separation of religion and state.

‘The system’s gone mad and you want to have a close look at the imbeciles doing this kind of thing in an Australian law school,’ he told the Sunrise program.

‘It’s ridiculous to break that code. There’s no place for Australian law to have Sharia law as part of it.’


The university’s ‘Muslim Minorities And The Law’ course uses a textbook which promotes the idea that ‘Sharia and common law are not inherently incompatible’.

‘They are both ‘law’ in the sense they represent and communicate a set of ‘norms’ that operate at both individual and a community level,’ the book reads.

Dr Salim Farrar and Dr Ghena Krayem, who authored the book and teach the course, also call for research into whether polygamous marriage should be recognised under mainstream law.

‘Whilst some have argued that there may be reasons for changing marriage laws to include polygamous marriages… there have not been any proposals for any legislative amendment proposed by the Muslim communities in our Common Law jurisdictions,’ the book reads.

‘However, there is no doubt that this is an area that needs to be researched, particularly given the fact that anecdotal evidence suggests that this is an increasing practice in Muslim communities.’
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Re: What our Universities are teaching about sharia law!

Post by The Reboot » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:55 am

Black Orchid wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:59 pm
As part of Muslim Minorities And The Law, professors Salim Farrar and Dr Ghena Krayem are teaching Sydney University students how polygamy and lowering the age of consent could be sufficiently applied to Western civilisation.

The course uses a book, written by the professors, that promotes the idea that “sharia law and common law are not inherently incompatible”.

A portion of the textbook identifies the benefits of turning away from monogamous relationships and notes how sharia law does not recognise the minimum age in marriage.

“There is no minimum age for a contract of marriage, but it should not be consummated if that would cause harm to the putative spouse,” the book reads.

“Whilst some have argued that there may be reasons for changing marriage laws to include polygamous marriages… there have not been any proposals for any legislative amendment proposed by the Muslim communities in our Common Law jurisdictions.”

Sharia law is Islam’s most religious law and the prospect of its integration into western civilisation has long been condemned given its sometimes radical sentencing recommendations.

However, the Sydney academics believe otherwise.

“When we move to actual recognition in the courts, we will argue that there is much evidence of compatibility… we will suggest that ‘accommodation’ is not enough and that as liberal democratic societies, we should move towards notion of ‘recognition’,” they state in their book.

The law course also takes aim at judges for denouncing Muslim values during sentencing.

“Where found guilty of transgressing Western values, for example in gender equality, or violating national security, courts have clearly communicated their denunciation of ‘traditional’ or conservative Muslim values when sentencing, dispensing exemplary sentences and announcing aggravating factors, even when the written law does not explicitly demand it.”

A university spokesman told News Corp the course was optional and would offer students a basic understanding of the sources of Islamic law.
https://israelislamandendtimes.com/sydn ... alian-law/

I know a couple here will fully approve of this but, if they do, it shreds any argument they have ever made in their pro islam stance.

Nah they don't want sharia law. :roll: :roll:
Great, all the paedophile lovers will want to bring this in.

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Re: What our Universities are teaching about sharia law!

Post by brian ross » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:03 am

Panic! Panic! Alert! Alert! Will Robertson, Aliens approaching!

Amazing, university students actually being taught something controversial. Never happened in my day. In my day, we just learnt about that big demon, Communism and how it could apply to Australian society. Gee, I haven't noticed Australia becoming a Communist society as a consequence, have you? How about learning about Women's Studies. Have you noticed Australia becoming a utopia for women? I haven't. I also learnt about Naziism. Guess what? Australia isn't a Fascist society, nor is it likely to become one. I've also learnt about republicanism. How did the referendum on that go again?

University students go to university to learn how to think and how to solve problems from basic principles. That means they have to learn the alternatives so they can reject them. Learning about the alternatives doesn't legitimise them, despite what Latham and all the Islamophobes might believe.

Australia has how many Muslims amongst it's population? Oh, that's right, it's less than ~3%. How is Sh'ria law going to be introduced with only that small minority of which only a smaller minority actually support it's introduction? Gee, I don't know. Do you? Australia is a democracy. If a majority support an idea, then it gets up. How likely do you think over 50% of the remaining ~97% of the population are going to support the introduction of Sh'ria law? Really. I know the principles of democracy are had for Islamophobes and Xenophobes to grasp but hey, please, try at least. :roll:
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Re: What our Universities are teaching about sharia law!

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:23 am

I knew you would be fully behind this Brian. Well done for not disappointing me. :roll:

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Re: What our Universities are teaching about sharia law!

Post by brian ross » Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:01 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:23 am
I knew you would be fully behind this Brian. Well done for not disappointing me. :roll:
I don't outright condemn it purely because of it's subject matter like Islamophobes do, Black Orchid. :roll:
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Re: What our Universities are teaching about sharia law!

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:32 pm

You said Islamists didn't want sharia law in the west. They must be teaching it because so many of us are moving to Islamic countries and flooding them with our presence. Makes perfect sense. :roll:

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Re: What our Universities are teaching about sharia law!

Post by brian ross » Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:35 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:32 pm
You said Islamists didn't want sharia law in the west. They must be teaching it because so many of us are moving to Islamic countries and flooding them with our presence. Makes perfect sense. :roll:
No, no, I said the majority of Muslims don't want Sh'ria law in the west. Islamists do. There is a difference between the two, Black Orchid and one you as an Islamophobe obviously refuse to recognise. :roll:

However, that is immaterial to this issue. This is about a University course, nothing more. It is obvious you've never attended University, have you, Black Orchid? :roll:
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Re: What our Universities are teaching about sharia law!

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:04 pm

brian ross wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:35 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:32 pm
You said Islamists didn't want sharia law in the west. They must be teaching it because so many of us are moving to Islamic countries and flooding them with our presence. Makes perfect sense. :roll:
No, no, I said the majority of Muslims don't want Sh'ria law in the west. Islamists do. There is a difference between the two, Black Orchid and one you as an Islamophobe obviously refuse to recognise. :roll:

However, that is immaterial to this issue. This is about a University course, nothing more. It is obvious you've never attended University, have you, Black Orchid? :roll:
You obviously did not witness the muslim riots in Sydney in 2012. Thousands of muslims wanting sharia and beheadings. I wonder how many we actually have here if they were a small minority?

As for your University comment. They didn't teach sharia law at University in my day you pretentious little twat. If you ever went to University they obviously didn't teach you how to relate to/debate with people with civility. Your parents should have taken that task on board but they obviously failed too.

Your continued rudeness and flaccid attempts to put people down, instead of normal discussion, are your downfall.

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Post by brian ross » Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:47 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:04 pm
brian ross wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:35 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:32 pm
You said Islamists didn't want sharia law in the west. They must be teaching it because so many of us are moving to Islamic countries and flooding them with our presence. Makes perfect sense. :roll:
No, no, I said the majority of Muslims don't want Sh'ria law in the west. Islamists do. There is a difference between the two, Black Orchid and one you as an Islamophobe obviously refuse to recognise. :roll:

However, that is immaterial to this issue. This is about a University course, nothing more. It is obvious you've never attended University, have you, Black Orchid? :roll:
You obviously did not witness the muslim riots in Sydney in 2012. Thousands of muslims wanting sharia and beheadings. I wonder how many we actually have here if they were a small minority?
I think you'll have to do your own research to discover that. From the police estimates, the attendance at the "riot" in 2012 was approximately 3-400 of which only a tiny minority engaged in any violence.

An interesting comment re: the usual protest that Muslims don't protest about such protests:
Leaders of 25 Muslim organisations met on the Monday night and said that the protests over the film were "unacceptable and un-Islamic", and that they did not support even peaceful protest.[25] The Board of Imams Victoria met on 17 September to discuss strategies to prevent riots in Melbourne.[26] The President of the Australian National Imams Council emphasised the importance of correct education of the younger generation. The plan of the Board of Imams Victoria was that the same message of peace should be preached across Australia on Friday 21 September with parents being urged to stay at home with their children after Friday prayers.[26] Sheik Azeim urged all young Muslims in Australia to remember that they are Australians first, and that facilities such as schools, hospitals and the social security organisation Centrelink did not question whether they were Muslim.[26]
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As for your University comment. They didn't teach sharia law at University in my day you pretentious little twat.
What did you study, Black Orchid? Basket weaving, good house keeping, macrame'?

As I said, in my day, they studied all sorts of dangerous ideologies such as Marxism, Communism, Fascism, etc. Has Australia succumbed to any of them?
If you ever went to University they obviously didn't teach you how to relate to/debate with people with civility. Your parents should have taken that task on board but they obviously failed too.
Oh, I learnt how to do that and then I encountered people like you on the USENet, before the Internet existed. Nothing I've seen you say or do could be called "civil" in your attitudes towards the Left and it's supporters, Black Orchid so you get as good as you give.
Your continued rudeness and flaccid attempts to put people down, instead of normal discussion, are your downfall.
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You wouldn't know what normal discussion was, Black Orchid. You are not as innocent as you assume. Tsk, tsk. :roll:
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