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brian ross
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by brian ross » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:34 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:26 pm
'Asylum seekers' don't have the right to pass 20 countries on their way to Australia and then to pay large amounts of money in Indonesia to be ferried here by boat. They are country shoppers.
Care to show me where it states that in the UN Convention on Refugees, Black Orchid?
Without "country shoppers", the Nazis would have killed many noted Jewish nuclear scientists in the Holocaust. Afterall, they usually first went to either France or the UK or even Italy and thence onto the USA. Without them, the Atomic Bombs would have taken a great deal longer to create. Would you like that? Really?
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by brian ross » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:36 pm
FLEKTARN wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:58 am
Wally Raffles wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:33 am
FLEKTARN wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:25 am
Serial Brain 9 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:41 am
Australia is doing what the UN tells it to do in regards to immigration.
Thats why.
The most shocking thing I think is that the Queen of England still rules over Australia. Insane. And Canada... And New Zealand. I think only South Africa is independent now, but it's pretty obvious even anglo-saxons don't need negers.
I'm sorry...we don't need what?
Negers? People from the Negroid race? Africans? Blackies? Monkeys?
What a nice attitude to have towards your fellow human beings. You also seem ignorant that Indigenous Australians have darker skins than most Europeans. Why don't you piss off back to Bulgaria? There you can have your pure Aryan race fantasies all you like...

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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:39 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:34 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:26 pm
'Asylum seekers' don't have the right to pass 20 countries on their way to Australia and then to pay large amounts of money in Indonesia to be ferried here by boat. They are country shoppers.
Care to show me where it states that in the UN Convention on Refugees, Black Orchid?
Without "country shoppers", the Nazis would have killed many noted Jewish nuclear scientists in the Holocaust. Afterall, they usually first went to either France or the UK or even Italy and thence onto the USA. Without them, the Atomic Bombs would have taken a great deal longer to create. Would you like that? Really?
Newsflash Brian we are not still fighting WW2 and we don't need anymore country shoppers who just decide they will come and live here on their own terms.
Open borders is not a good thing for the country nor for the people.
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:46 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:39 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:34 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:26 pm
'Asylum seekers' don't have the right to pass 20 countries on their way to Australia and then to pay large amounts of money in Indonesia to be ferried here by boat. They are country shoppers.
Care to show me where it states that in the UN Convention on Refugees, Black Orchid?
Without "country shoppers", the Nazis would have killed many noted Jewish nuclear scientists in the Holocaust. Afterall, they usually first went to either France or the UK or even Italy and thence onto the USA. Without them, the Atomic Bombs would have taken a great deal longer to create. Would you like that? Really?
Newsflash Brian we are not still fighting WW2 and we don't need anymore country shoppers who just decide they will come and live here on their own terms.
Open borders is not a good thing for the country nor for the people.
No one is suggesting "open borders" here, Black Orchid. What I am suggesting is that we show some mercy to those that need it - genuine Asylum Seekers. "Country shoppers" do exist but often they are actually genuine refugees as well - something you find inconvenient and ignore. Refugees come here fleeing persecution, yet according to you and the other Tories its all about how they arrive. If they come on a plane, that's OK. If they come by boat, thats bad. I wonder why? Do you fear what happened to the Indigenous Australians happening to you? Your language is loaded with the same terms they use - fears of dispossession, jealousy, disbelief, hatred, Xenophobia.
These people are just that people - people who are desperate to make a new life away from the hatred that has driven them from their homelands and made them seek a new one in Australia. They would make excellent Australians, rather than the economic refugees you appear so willing to accept in their stead. You know, the ones who fled the Global Economic Downturn at the end of the noughties and who profited from our boom, only to then piss off again when that ended...

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FLEKTARN
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by FLEKTARN » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:54 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:36 pm
FLEKTARN wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:58 am
Wally Raffles wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:33 am
FLEKTARN wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:25 am
Serial Brain 9 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:41 am
Australia is doing what the UN tells it to do in regards to immigration.
Thats why.
The most shocking thing I think is that the Queen of England still rules over Australia. Insane. And Canada... And New Zealand. I think only South Africa is independent now, but it's pretty obvious even anglo-saxons don't need negers.
I'm sorry...we don't need what?
Negers? People from the Negroid race? Africans? Blackies? Monkeys?
What a nice attitude to have towards your fellow human beings. You also seem ignorant that Indigenous Australians have darker skins than most Europeans. Why don't you piss off back to Bulgaria? There you can have your pure Aryan race fantasies all you like...
I never said I had anything against the Australian abos. That's your opinion. I also never called them negers. Even if they are, they don't behave like such. They mind their own business and seem like normal people. They're not famous for their crimes abroad.
And by the way, I don't support any type of war. Not religious wars, not racial wars, not oil wars. But I support local insurgency and we're going towards it. When I say "we" I don't mean specifically me, it's fine, everything, in the two places I move between. But I mean you. And others like France and England.
The one that says the least can often have a very different perspective and hold the answer. The least qualified person may hold the most wisdom. When you don’t have knowledge or experience blocking your perspective, you can see problems and solutions.
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FLEKTARN
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by FLEKTARN » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:04 pm
Brian: "What I am suggesting is that we show some mercy to those that need it - genuine Asylum Seekers."
Here's what this young prosperous man from the Apex Gang in Australia had to say:
"In the city, you've got to make money. You don't have things to do, you want to make money. If you don't have money, then you have to go hussle. Gang is your best friend. Your whole group, you can do anything. You're happy, you want to do anything. You're not scared of stuff."
So I guess gang members from Africa really need mercy the most.
The one that says the least can often have a very different perspective and hold the answer. The least qualified person may hold the most wisdom. When you don’t have knowledge or experience blocking your perspective, you can see problems and solutions.
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by brian ross » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:47 pm
FLEKTARN wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:54 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:36 pm
FLEKTARN wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:58 am
Wally Raffles wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:33 am
FLEKTARN wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:25 am
The most shocking thing I think is that the Queen of England still rules over Australia. Insane. And Canada... And New Zealand. I think only South Africa is independent now, but it's pretty obvious even anglo-saxons don't need negers.
I'm sorry...we don't need what?
Negers? People from the Negroid race? Africans? Blackies? Monkeys?
What a nice attitude to have towards your fellow human beings. You also seem ignorant that Indigenous Australians have darker skins than most Europeans. Why don't you piss off back to Bulgaria? There you can have your pure Aryan race fantasies all you like...
I never said I had anything against the Australian abos. That's your opinion. I also never called them negers. Even if they are, they don't behave like such. They mind their own business and seem like normal people. They're not famous for their crimes abroad.
But they are here in Australia, funny that, hey? You like to be a racist but you don't even know any Blacks, do you, our member of the Aryan Master Race, hey?
And by the way, I don't support any type of war. Not religious wars, not racial wars, not oil wars. But I support local insurgency and we're going towards it. When I say "we" I don't mean specifically me, it's fine, everything, in the two places I move between. But I mean you. And others like France and England.
Except you seem to like to create battles where none exist simply because of your ignorance, right, Master Mind?

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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:58 pm
Why are some of you 'men' so damned confrontational? It's really quite juvenile and very boring.
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:04 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:58 pm
Why are some of you 'men' so damned confrontational? It's really quite juvenile and very boring.
Ask our member of the Aryans, Black Orchid...

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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:05 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:04 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:58 pm
Why are some of you 'men' so damned confrontational? It's really quite juvenile and very boring.
Ask our member of the Aryans, Black Orchid...

You take equal blame, Brian. ALL your posts are patronising and/or confrontational
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