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Jovial Monk2

Why no discussions?

Post by Jovial Monk2 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:16 am

This is a board of political animals supposedly, so where is the political discussion?

Here is one i prepared earlier:
HBS Guy wrote:
Call for parts of sharia law in Australia

A senior Muslim leader is again calling for elements of sharia law to be legally recognised in Australia.

During an open day at Sydney's Lakemba Mosque at the weekend, the Australian Islamic Mission's president, Dr Zachariah Matthews, called for aspects of sharia law to function as a parallel legal system.

His comments have sparked concerns that doing so would introduce a penal system under which women could be stoned to death for adultery and corporal punishment handed out for other offences.

Dr Matthews says while Muslims only represent 1.7 per cent of the Australian population, changes are unlikely.

But he says there are some small aspects of sharia law the Muslim community would like to have recognised.

"The aspects that we would be looking at are definitely not the penal code system, in so far as people's fears around the cutting off of hands for the crime of theft and the stoning of adulterers," he said.

"The aspects that we would be looking at are aspects related to Muslim family law and perhaps Muslim inheritance law."

Dr Matthews says although these are minor differences, they are differences Muslims would like to have recognised.

"When it comes to Muslim family law there are issues relating to the legal age of marriage," he said.

"In Muslim law, for example, as in Singapore, the legal age for both parties is 16 rather than as it stands currently [at] 18.

"There's also the issue of the waiting period [between] separation and divorce, which is currently specified at 12 months. In Muslim family law that could be a lot shorter."

Controversy over the introduction of sharia law in parallel to existing laws ignited in February 2008 when the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, spoke about the "inevitable" role Muslim sharia law would one day play in British law.

But Dr Matthews says the minor changes proposed would only apply to Muslims.

"As long as that concession does not infringe on the rights of others and society at large, then the question I'm asking is, are we not mature enough or sophisticated enough to manage that type of diversity?" he said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... ion=justin

Now you could say, you came here from some Islamic shithole so you follow our laws. We can do a bit better, a bit more nuanced than that

I would not like sharia law, the relationship parts as described in the article, made into law here. "Equal under the law" does not apply where there are two different systems of law, so that is out.

But in the conciliation part/negotiation, that comes either before or instead of formal Family Court hearings, if both parties want to negotiate something according to that law then why not?

The marriage age must NOT be lowered to 16! Girls of 16 are not developed enough intellectually or physically for marriage or childbirth! The Muslim faith has some very nasty pedophile beliefs here like marrying children under 10! (Now, occasionally a girl of 16 is allowed to wed, even at ages younger than 16 but these are extremely rare exceptions to the rule!)

Wog

Re: Why no discussions?

Post by Wog » Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:17 pm

What else is there to say? They did come from some islamic shithole and now want to convert this great country into an islamic shithole. First sharia, then multiple wives, then fuck knows what else. If we keep bowing down to them they'll only want more more more. Where does it end?

Jovial Monk2

Re: Why no discussions?

Post by Jovial Monk2 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:47 pm

Nah, we can bend a little way but not by having two sets of laws or allowing polygamy.

Sappho

Re: Why no discussions?

Post by Sappho » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:08 pm

If you want to shit on Muslim's Monk, go take it to D&R. That's their specialty.

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Re: Why no discussions?

Post by boxy » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:17 pm

News just in! Idiots regularly call for sharia law in western countries to get their names in the paper.

They are fuckwits to be ignored.
"But you will run your fluffy bunny mouth at me. And I will take it, to play poker."

Maxine

Re: Why no discussions?

Post by Maxine » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:44 pm

Dear Staph throat, does it look like I was dissing the Muslims? I was suggesting a slight adaptation where both parties wanted it but in negotiations before the actual Family Court hearing.

Airhead you be if you couldn't see that. Go back to the D&R you so like, because there are lots of nasty little racists there to back you up.

donniedarko

Re: Why no discussions?

Post by donniedarko » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:48 pm

No discussion either on the Commonwealth plans for national health reform.

But numerous threads on petitions for mod etc.

Meh.

Maxine

Re: Why no discussions?

Post by Maxine » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:54 pm

That is how it has always been.

I will put something about he health plan up tomorrow if you would like.

Ethnic

Re: Why no discussions?

Post by Ethnic » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:26 pm

boxy wrote:News just in! Idiots regularly call for sharia law in western countries to get their names in the paper.

They are fuckwits to be ignored.
If only we could boxy but there are bigger fuckwits who listen to them.

Senexx

Re: Why no discussions?

Post by Senexx » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:58 am

Why? Because I tried this a while back and no one was interested. I will not waste my effort at this point. Once the election or elections settle down and the path is clear I shall attempt to re-engage.

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