Spot on! Am wondering who this 'we' is.Serial Brain 9 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:06 pmWhat an absolute joke Brian.
I’m not sure if you’ve noticed - but you are on your own in regards to this - it is YOU who is out of step.
Labor right of centre?
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Why did labor lose ?
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Yes I posted about Fitzgibbon elsewhere.Serial Brain 9 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:11 pmEven Labor Politicians believe they have gone too far left.
They need to ditch the GREENs and go it alone.
https://www.news.com.au/national/federa ... 8c1c071953As Labor prepares to replace Bill Shorten in the wake of the party’s shock election loss, an unlikely contender is considering entering the race.
Hunter representative Joel Fitzgibbon, who hung onto his seat despite a 10 per cent swing, said he was not prepared to rule out running for the leadership if Labor didn’t match his concerns about representing the regions and its working class base.
“The Labor must reconnect with its blue-collar base and get back to the centre, and be less ambitious in its pace of change,” Mr Fitzgibbon told ABC radio this morning.
“People are inherently conservative in Australia and any change has to be orderly and steady, and needs to be explained to people.
“We need to stick to the sensible centre and push reform in an incremental way and in an orderly way and properly explain why change is necessary to people. You’ve got to be able to take people with you.”
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Dr Google told himSerial Brain 9 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:06 pmWhat an absolute joke Brian.
I’m not sure if you’ve noticed - but you are on your own in regards to this - it is YOU who is out of step.
Labor right of centre?
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labor has been more interested with the lgbiqa crew for well over a decade.Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:13 pmYes I posted about Fitzgibbon elsewhere.Serial Brain 9 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:11 pmEven Labor Politicians believe they have gone too far left.
They need to ditch the GREENs and go it alone.
https://www.news.com.au/national/federa ... 8c1c071953As Labor prepares to replace Bill Shorten in the wake of the party’s shock election loss, an unlikely contender is considering entering the race.
Hunter representative Joel Fitzgibbon, who hung onto his seat despite a 10 per cent swing, said he was not prepared to rule out running for the leadership if Labor didn’t match his concerns about representing the regions and its working class base.
“The Labor must reconnect with its blue-collar base and get back to the centre, and be less ambitious in its pace of change,” Mr Fitzgibbon told ABC radio this morning.
“People are inherently conservative in Australia and any change has to be orderly and steady, and needs to be explained to people.
“We need to stick to the sensible centre and push reform in an incremental way and in an orderly way and properly explain why change is necessary to people. You’ve got to be able to take people with you.”
Add that to the extreme positions taken elsewhere, they should be retired
Right Wing is the Natural Progression.
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Mmme, appears you live in a different universe compared to the rest of us, Serial. Personally, I'd have suggested that the ALP was more to the right of centre than to the far left. Perhaps your viewpoint has shifted far to the right, so far in fact that you've lost sight of where the centre actually is. Perhaps you've been reading far too many American or even Bolter websites?Serial Brain 9 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:30 amYes reallybrian ross wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 9:30 pmSerial Brain 9 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 9:17 pmOverseas News outlets are Laughing at the Labour (Labor) FAR LEFT Party - Can't believe they got so close to being elected!
THUNDER DOWN UNDER: Far Left Labour Party SUFFERS SHOCKING LOSS in Australia After Holding Several Point Lead in Polls
The conservatives (named the Liberal party) in Australia pulled off a stunning upset in the national elections on Saturday.
The Liberal party is leading with 74 seats and the far left Labour party won on 65 seats.
The Labour party was ahead by 8 points in the polls.
Just like in the United States the media was hurt the most.
The far left Labour Party ran on getting rid of coal and skyrocketing energy costs.
The exit polls showed Labour party with a lead.
They got shellacked.Sure could have fooled me, mate. Typical for America media to get it wrong, hey?"Far left" Labor Party? Really?
The Labor party as it stands today is far far left of the traditional values it once had - they know they can't win an election without the GREENS and thus have to take on their policies in grubby backroom deals.
IT makes me sick that the Fake New Media hasn't called this out.
Shutting down our coal energy networks across Australia making energy prices skyrocket
Shutting down Industry
FORCING everyone to drive stupid expensive electric cars
TAX TAX TAX AND MORE TAXES.
Radical Socialist agendas - Forcing kids to become Trannys
more Taxes taken off those who have worked their guts out for a better life and a few bucks only to have it stolen
another 35 Billion theft of our Superannuations
Billions stolen from our savings in shares
and the list goes on.
The only trouble with Socialism is that it collapses when you run out of other peoples money that you have stolen.
and yes
all of ht above is FAR LEFT Radical Socialism of the Labor/Greens coalition.
As for me being "out of step", yes, I suppose I am. I have remained in the one position, slightly left of centre while the rest of you have progressively moved further and further to the right (and that includes the ALP). My views are still the same as they always have been - the greatest good for the greatest number, medical care is a right, not a privilege, just as education is as well. Sexuality is a person's own business - the Government should not be in adult peoples' bedrooms. Unions are necessary to counter the power of the bosses. Big corporations and rich individuals should pay their fair share of tax. The environment is super important and Climate Change is occurring and needs to be addressed. My views are moderate, not extreme. You are the extreme, Serial.
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brian ross wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 3:29 pmMmme, appears you live in a different universe compared to the rest of us, Serial. Personally, I'd have suggested that the ALP was more to the right of centre than to the far left. Perhaps your viewpoint has shifted far to the right, so far in fact that you've lost sight of where the centre actually is. Perhaps you've been reading far too many American or even Bolter websites?Serial Brain 9 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:30 amYes reallybrian ross wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 9:30 pmSerial Brain 9 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 9:17 pmOverseas News outlets are Laughing at the Labour (Labor) FAR LEFT Party - Can't believe they got so close to being elected!
THUNDER DOWN UNDER: Far Left Labour Party SUFFERS SHOCKING LOSS in Australia After Holding Several Point Lead in Polls
The conservatives (named the Liberal party) in Australia pulled off a stunning upset in the national elections on Saturday.
The Liberal party is leading with 74 seats and the far left Labour party won on 65 seats.
The Labour party was ahead by 8 points in the polls.
Just like in the United States the media was hurt the most.
The far left Labour Party ran on getting rid of coal and skyrocketing energy costs.
The exit polls showed Labour party with a lead.
They got shellacked.Sure could have fooled me, mate. Typical for America media to get it wrong, hey?"Far left" Labor Party? Really?
The Labor party as it stands today is far far left of the traditional values it once had - they know they can't win an election without the GREENS and thus have to take on their policies in grubby backroom deals.
IT makes me sick that the Fake New Media hasn't called this out.
Shutting down our coal energy networks across Australia making energy prices skyrocket
Shutting down Industry
FORCING everyone to drive stupid expensive electric cars
TAX TAX TAX AND MORE TAXES.
Radical Socialist agendas - Forcing kids to become Trannys
more Taxes taken off those who have worked their guts out for a better life and a few bucks only to have it stolen
another 35 Billion theft of our Superannuations
Billions stolen from our savings in shares
and the list goes on.
The only trouble with Socialism is that it collapses when you run out of other peoples money that you have stolen.
and yes
all of ht above is FAR LEFT Radical Socialism of the Labor/Greens coalition.
As for me being "out of step", yes, I suppose I am. I have remained in the one position, slightly left of centre while the rest of you have progressively moved further and further to the right (and that includes the ALP). My views are still the same as they always have been - the greatest good for the greatest number, medical care is a right, not a privilege, just as education is as well. Sexuality is a person's own business - the Government should not be in adult peoples' bedrooms. Unions are necessary to counter the power of the bosses. Big corporations and rich individuals should pay their fair share of tax. The environment is super important and Climate Change is occurring and needs to be addressed. My views are moderate, not extreme. You are the extreme, Serial.
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Another abusing leftist commentator
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She got a lot of uncomplimentary responses to that and then deleted it and whinged. Apparently she was drunk
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I've never bought the drunk card. Like they say, the truth comes out when you're pissed. You're only telling it how it really is in your mind.
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Brian - you are delusional.
Conservatives have never changed - its only the insane leftist who has pushed further and further to the left with one idiotic idea after another.
Conservatives haven't changed and/or asked anyone else to change.
The left on the other hand are non stop pushing "their" agendas down everyones throats from Global Warming, shutting down coal fired power stations and mines, homo marriage to Trannys you name it. Pushing sick radical sexual perversion into school children classrooms and into their toilets.
It never stops and you leftwing nutcases will never stop pushing.
Just **** off and leave everyone alone.
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BTW - Climate Changes - it always has and always will.
Dur. Thats what Climate does
Conservatives have never changed - its only the insane leftist who has pushed further and further to the left with one idiotic idea after another.
Conservatives haven't changed and/or asked anyone else to change.
The left on the other hand are non stop pushing "their" agendas down everyones throats from Global Warming, shutting down coal fired power stations and mines, homo marriage to Trannys you name it. Pushing sick radical sexual perversion into school children classrooms and into their toilets.
It never stops and you leftwing nutcases will never stop pushing.
Just **** off and leave everyone alone.
...............
BTW - Climate Changes - it always has and always will.
Dur. Thats what Climate does
And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.
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