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Semenya is banned

Post by sprintcyclist » Thu May 02, 2019 10:46 am

.......... The Court of Arbitration for Sport ruled Wednesday that Caster Semenya, a two-time Olympic champion and the subject of one of the biggest controversies the track and field world has seen, will have to take medications that suppress her testosterone output to continue competing at the sport’s highest levels.

Semenya had appealed to the court, challenging a controversial International Association of Athletics Federations rule targeting women who naturally produce high levels of testosterone.

By a 2-1 margin, a panel of three arbitrators sided with the IAAF, allowing the sport’s international governing body to maintain its restrictions on athletes such as Semenya, a female competitor who is believed to have an intersex condition that causes her body to naturally produce testosterone at levels much higher than most women. ...........

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Re: Semenya is banned

Post by Texan » Thu May 02, 2019 11:40 am

Semen-who?

Good for ya'll. Women are losing college scholarships and career opportunities over this crap.

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Re: Semenya is banned

Post by Black Orchid » Thu May 02, 2019 11:48 am

Texan wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 11:40 am
Semen-who?

Good for ya'll. Women are losing college scholarships and career opportunities over this crap.
That is exactly what makes me mad about it :mad

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Re: Semenya is banned

Post by Gordon » Thu May 02, 2019 3:12 pm

Actually, this one I don't agree with.

If she's a biological woman even with freakish testosterone, she should be allowed to compete as a woman without having to take drugs.
There will be so few naturally intersex competitors such as her, it will never be a big issue.

Male to women trans competitors, nope. They can enter the chicks with dicks Olympics :)

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Re: Semenya is banned

Post by Neferti » Thu May 02, 2019 4:28 pm

Gordon wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 3:12 pm
Actually, this one I don't agree with.

If she's a biological woman even with freakish testosterone, she should be allowed to compete as a woman without having to take drugs.
There will be so few naturally intersex competitors such as her, it will never be a big issue.

Male to women trans competitors, nope. They can enter the chicks with dicks Olympics :)
RULES ... she has more testosterone than her competitors. I thought that testing that was what decided this?

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Re: Semenya is banned

Post by Gordon » Thu May 02, 2019 6:15 pm

Neferti~ wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 4:28 pm
Gordon wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 3:12 pm
Actually, this one I don't agree with.

If she's a biological woman even with freakish testosterone, she should be allowed to compete as a woman without having to take drugs.
There will be so few naturally intersex competitors such as her, it will never be a big issue.

Male to women trans competitors, nope. They can enter the chicks with dicks Olympics :)
RULES ... she has more testosterone than her competitors. I thought that testing that was what decided this?
On sex change, I'm uncompromising. Born a bloke, I'll call you Miss if that floats your boat, but you're a bloke and always will be.

One this one, I reckon a board of doctors should make a medical determination on gender and if it's a female and the testosterone levels are naturally occurring, it can compete against women. This will be really rare. Think of it as winning the genetic lottery, just as Shaquille O'Neal or other outliers have.

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Re: Semenya is banned

Post by Black Orchid » Thu May 02, 2019 6:58 pm

I am in two minds about Caster Semenya. S/he is probably one of these rare freaks of nature and the sex verification test results were never released but s/he clearly identifies as a man.

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Re: Semenya is banned

Post by BigP » Thu May 02, 2019 7:26 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 6:58 pm
I am in two minds about Caster Semenya. S/he is probably one of these rare freaks of nature and the sex verification test results were never released but s/he clearly identifies as a man.

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To the best of my knowledge it was born with the underdeveloped sexual organs of both male and female, I guess they would classically be classed as hermaphrodite

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Re: Semenya is banned

Post by Gordon » Thu May 02, 2019 7:43 pm

This is a tough one, but I really don't like the ruling that s/he has to take medication to lower the testosterone levels.

Better to get a 6 doctors and make a determination, female, can compete, male, sorry.

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Re: Semenya is banned

Post by Black Orchid » Thu May 02, 2019 7:57 pm

It's a slippery slope that's for sure but I have not found one picture yet where s/he presents as a female.

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If, off the track, s/he presents as a male I have a bit of a problem with that if s/he wants to complete against women.

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