The reality of a lack of gun control...

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Re: The reality of a lack of gun control...

Post by Black Orchid » Wed May 01, 2019 12:26 pm

Gordon wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:24 pm
Texan wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:54 pm
brian ross wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:20 pm
Texan wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:58 pm
I guess my kids missed those drills. They do know how to operate every gun I own and know the combination to my gun safe. Of course, the youngest is 17 and pretty intimidating without a gun. Plays a pretty mean saxophone also.

We’d have a lot less shootings if we would control our borders and get rid of gun free zones. That’s where 90% of the mass shootings take place. They can’t have their victims shoot back.
I wasn't aware that school children were allowed to have guns, Texan. Your kids were lucky that they missed those drills. Seems they are commonplace nowadays. Is that something you're happy with? More guns won't stop massacres you realise? That seems to the standard NRA sort of answer to everything, "more guns!" Personally, I think there needs to be more background checks and more safety training and more confiscation of guns from people who aren't suited or trusted to have them... :roll:
17 is the legal age in TX for children to have access to firearms in the home. His school is protected by armed police and many districts are training teachers and allowing them to carry concealed in schools.

My brother is a school teacher and is considering it if allowed in his school system. He is already on the security council and gets the same texts as the cops during security alerts. There was a shooting across the street from his school and the students were nervous and wanted to leave. He showed them the texts to show the students that the police were handling it and they were safer inside with police protection.
I love playing with guns, they're fun, but I'm so bloody glad we have few guns on the street here. :)
That's what I mean. We cannot compare Australia and America and/or their gun culture. It's like water and oil and being so different, putting guns in the hands of most Australians would be terrifying :shock:

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Re: The reality of a lack of gun control...

Post by Gordon » Wed May 01, 2019 12:42 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:26 pm
Gordon wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:24 pm
Texan wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:54 pm
brian ross wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:20 pm
Texan wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:58 pm
I guess my kids missed those drills. They do know how to operate every gun I own and know the combination to my gun safe. Of course, the youngest is 17 and pretty intimidating without a gun. Plays a pretty mean saxophone also.

We’d have a lot less shootings if we would control our borders and get rid of gun free zones. That’s where 90% of the mass shootings take place. They can’t have their victims shoot back.
I wasn't aware that school children were allowed to have guns, Texan. Your kids were lucky that they missed those drills. Seems they are commonplace nowadays. Is that something you're happy with? More guns won't stop massacres you realise? That seems to the standard NRA sort of answer to everything, "more guns!" Personally, I think there needs to be more background checks and more safety training and more confiscation of guns from people who aren't suited or trusted to have them... :roll:
17 is the legal age in TX for children to have access to firearms in the home. His school is protected by armed police and many districts are training teachers and allowing them to carry concealed in schools.

My brother is a school teacher and is considering it if allowed in his school system. He is already on the security council and gets the same texts as the cops during security alerts. There was a shooting across the street from his school and the students were nervous and wanted to leave. He showed them the texts to show the students that the police were handling it and they were safer inside with police protection.
I love playing with guns, they're fun, but I'm so bloody glad we have few guns on the street here. :)
That's what I mean. We cannot compare Australia and America and/or their gun culture. It's like water and oil and being so different, putting guns in the hands of most Australians would be terrifying :shock:
Pretty much. Thing about America it's so diverse and parts of the USA are culturally very similar to AU while other parts are just so different from each other, you wonder how they can be in the same country.

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Re: The reality of a lack of gun control...

Post by Texan » Wed May 01, 2019 12:43 pm

Gordon wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:24 pm
Texan wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:54 pm
brian ross wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:20 pm
Texan wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:58 pm
I guess my kids missed those drills. They do know how to operate every gun I own and know the combination to my gun safe. Of course, the youngest is 17 and pretty intimidating without a gun. Plays a pretty mean saxophone also.

We’d have a lot less shootings if we would control our borders and get rid of gun free zones. That’s where 90% of the mass shootings take place. They can’t have their victims shoot back.
I wasn't aware that school children were allowed to have guns, Texan. Your kids were lucky that they missed those drills. Seems they are commonplace nowadays. Is that something you're happy with? More guns won't stop massacres you realise? That seems to the standard NRA sort of answer to everything, "more guns!" Personally, I think there needs to be more background checks and more safety training and more confiscation of guns from people who aren't suited or trusted to have them... :roll:
17 is the legal age in TX for children to have access to firearms in the home. His school is protected by armed police and many districts are training teachers and allowing them to carry concealed in schools.

My brother is a school teacher and is considering it if allowed in his school system. He is already on the security council and gets the same texts as the cops during security alerts. There was a shooting across the street from his school and the students were nervous and wanted to leave. He showed them the texts to show the students that the police were handling it and they were safer inside with police protection.
I love playing with guns, they're fun, but I'm so bloody glad we have few guns on the street here. :)
It's not like it's easy to legally carry a gun here. I explained the process above.

An armed society is a polite society. You would be amazed at how well everybody gets along and the incredible manners of people at a gun show. I've seen inner city black folks chatting with rednecks wearing confederate garb like they were long lost brothers at gun shows. It's a thing of beauty. How many gun shows have been attacked as compared to "gun free zones"?

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Re: The reality of a lack of gun control...

Post by Gordon » Wed May 01, 2019 12:48 pm

Texan wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:43 pm
Gordon wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:24 pm
Texan wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:54 pm
brian ross wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:20 pm
Texan wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:58 pm
I guess my kids missed those drills. They do know how to operate every gun I own and know the combination to my gun safe. Of course, the youngest is 17 and pretty intimidating without a gun. Plays a pretty mean saxophone also.

We’d have a lot less shootings if we would control our borders and get rid of gun free zones. That’s where 90% of the mass shootings take place. They can’t have their victims shoot back.
I wasn't aware that school children were allowed to have guns, Texan. Your kids were lucky that they missed those drills. Seems they are commonplace nowadays. Is that something you're happy with? More guns won't stop massacres you realise? That seems to the standard NRA sort of answer to everything, "more guns!" Personally, I think there needs to be more background checks and more safety training and more confiscation of guns from people who aren't suited or trusted to have them... :roll:
17 is the legal age in TX for children to have access to firearms in the home. His school is protected by armed police and many districts are training teachers and allowing them to carry concealed in schools.

My brother is a school teacher and is considering it if allowed in his school system. He is already on the security council and gets the same texts as the cops during security alerts. There was a shooting across the street from his school and the students were nervous and wanted to leave. He showed them the texts to show the students that the police were handling it and they were safer inside with police protection.
I love playing with guns, they're fun, but I'm so bloody glad we have few guns on the street here. :)
It's not like it's easy to legally carry a gun here. I explained the process above.

An armed society is a polite society. You would be amazed at how well everybody gets along and the incredible manners of people at a gun show. I've seen inner city black folks chatting with rednecks wearing confederate garb like they were long lost brothers at gun shows. It's a thing of beauty. How many gun shows have been attacked as compared to "gun free zones"?
How many people do you know or know of who've been shot?

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Re: The reality of a lack of gun control...

Post by Gordon » Wed May 01, 2019 12:52 pm

BTW I'm not giving you the 3rd degree, I've owned a few long rifles in the past, enjoy shooting but just don't want to live in a society where every person is potentially carrying.

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Re: The reality of a lack of gun control...

Post by Black Orchid » Wed May 01, 2019 12:56 pm

Gordon wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:52 pm
BTW I'm not giving you the 3rd degree, I've owned a few long rifles in the past, enjoy shooting but just don't want to live in a society where every person is potentially carrying.
I have never felt unsafe in the US. Not ever.

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Re: The reality of a lack of gun control...

Post by Texan » Wed May 01, 2019 12:58 pm

Gordon wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:48 pm
Texan wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:43 pm
Gordon wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:24 pm
Texan wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:54 pm
brian ross wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:20 pm


I wasn't aware that school children were allowed to have guns, Texan. Your kids were lucky that they missed those drills. Seems they are commonplace nowadays. Is that something you're happy with? More guns won't stop massacres you realise? That seems to the standard NRA sort of answer to everything, "more guns!" Personally, I think there needs to be more background checks and more safety training and more confiscation of guns from people who aren't suited or trusted to have them... :roll:
17 is the legal age in TX for children to have access to firearms in the home. His school is protected by armed police and many districts are training teachers and allowing them to carry concealed in schools.

My brother is a school teacher and is considering it if allowed in his school system. He is already on the security council and gets the same texts as the cops during security alerts. There was a shooting across the street from his school and the students were nervous and wanted to leave. He showed them the texts to show the students that the police were handling it and they were safer inside with police protection.
I love playing with guns, they're fun, but I'm so bloody glad we have few guns on the street here. :)
It's not like it's easy to legally carry a gun here. I explained the process above.

An armed society is a polite society. You would be amazed at how well everybody gets along and the incredible manners of people at a gun show. I've seen inner city black folks chatting with rednecks wearing confederate garb like they were long lost brothers at gun shows. It's a thing of beauty. How many gun shows have been attacked as compared to "gun free zones"?
How many people do you know or know of who've been shot?
1 suicide
1 self inflicted accident with a .22 pistol after losing his footing at the edge of a pond
1 security guard childhood friend who was murdered while working in a bad neighborhood in Dallas.
1 policeman who was shot in the leg last year while on duty in Dallas
1 daughter of a friend who was killed in a mass shooting where a lunatic shot up her church(concealed carry was made legal in churches after this shooting)

I'm 52 years old and have known a lot of people. I grew up in a close Dallas suburb and moved to another county 15 years ago where there is less crime, better schools, and lower taxes. I commute into Dallas/Fort Worth and work all hours of the day in all kinds of neighborhoods. I've worked in cities in 33 of 50 US states without incident.(ever seeing a gun drawn)
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Re: The reality of a lack of gun control...

Post by brian ross » Wed May 01, 2019 12:59 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:56 pm
Gordon wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:52 pm
BTW I'm not giving you the 3rd degree, I've owned a few long rifles in the past, enjoy shooting but just don't want to live in a society where every person is potentially carrying.
I have never felt unsafe in the US. Not ever.
You wouldn't be, in the POSH areas, Black Orchid. Now, if you'd gone down to the ghettos you'd have a very different feeling. If you'd been a male and you'd gone down to the deep southern states, you'd also have a different feeling...
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Re: The reality of a lack of gun control...

Post by Black Orchid » Wed May 01, 2019 1:01 pm

brian ross wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:59 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:56 pm
Gordon wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:52 pm
BTW I'm not giving you the 3rd degree, I've owned a few long rifles in the past, enjoy shooting but just don't want to live in a society where every person is potentially carrying.
I have never felt unsafe in the US. Not ever.
You wouldn't be, in the POSH areas, Black Orchid. Now, if you'd gone down to the ghettos you'd have a very different feeling. If you'd been a male and you'd gone down to the deep southern states, you'd also have a different feeling...
Same could be said of you going into the violent islam infected areas of Sydney, Brian. Your suppositions just don't cut the reality.

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Re: The reality of a lack of gun control...

Post by brian ross » Wed May 01, 2019 1:07 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 1:01 pm
brian ross wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:59 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:56 pm
Gordon wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 12:52 pm
BTW I'm not giving you the 3rd degree, I've owned a few long rifles in the past, enjoy shooting but just don't want to live in a society where every person is potentially carrying.
I have never felt unsafe in the US. Not ever.
You wouldn't be, in the POSH areas, Black Orchid. Now, if you'd gone down to the ghettos you'd have a very different feeling. If you'd been a male and you'd gone down to the deep southern states, you'd also have a different feeling...
Same could be said of you going into the violent islam infected areas of Sydney, Brian. Your suppositions just don't cut the reality.
I have visited Western Sydney, Black Orchid on several occasions. I have never felt unsafe there. I wonder when was the last time you stirred out of the North Shore, Mmmm?
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