Notre Dame

[Neferti]

How many Angels can dance on the head of a pin, hey, Neferti?

Catholics and Protestants and Eastern Orthodox and Russian Orthodox and Nestorian and other sects are all Christian.

Just as Sh'ia and Sunni and Kharijites and Sufis and all the other sects/schools/denominations of Islam are guess what? Muslims.

Same with all the other religions. They have schisms when there are ideological and theological arguments and you end up with some fool nailing his ninety-five theses on the door of the local church/temple/synagogue/mosque.

DEAD is DEAD! End Of.

Oh, I agree with that. I disagree with your characterisation that Catholics aren't Christians...

Where did I say that Catholics aren't Christians?

[brian ross]

How many Angels can dance on the head of a pin, hey, Neferti?

Catholics and Protestants and Eastern Orthodox and Russian Orthodox and Nestorian and other sects are all Christian.

Just as Sh'ia and Sunni and Kharijites and Sufis and all the other sects/schools/denominations of Islam are guess what? Muslims.

Same with all the other religions. They have schisms when there are ideological and theological arguments and you end up with some fool nailing his ninety-five theses on the door of the local church/temple/synagogue/mosque.

DEAD is DEAD! End Of.

Oh, I agree with that. I disagree with your characterisation that Catholics aren't Christians...

Where did I say that Catholics aren't Christians?

Please let us be clear on this ....

Christians = Catholics

Christians = Protestants

Entirely different

Notre Dame was a wonderful place for Catholics.

I apologise, Neferti. It appears I failed to see that you had only an equals sign. I assumed when you said, "entirely different", you had meant that they were not equal.

[cods]

I am not religious well I dont think I am but I do believe there is a POWER out there something we cant understand but should at least be aware of.

I often wonder if something like this could actually be a warning sign....

we have seen massive destruction without any reason or explanation...

our behavior is getting worse crime is getting worse..we are losing control and the bad guys are winning.

maybe instead of blaming others we looked at ourselves...

[billy the kid]

cods, I think that instead, we should be placing more scrutiny on our leaders...they have to be held more accountable...
We will be told what to think about the Notre Dame fire...obvious to most that Macron has enough on his plate with the
yellow vest protesters without affixing blame to anyone...any official inquiry will reveal an accident...
Our leaders constantly lie to us, and the people have had enough.
If we hark back to the middle ages, nothing has changed, if the peasants were copping it, then theyd storm the castle.
Unfortunately, there aint no castle these days...
People are entitled to ask questions of our leaders, and when all we get is lies, and the media blatantly take sides, the people are left with confusion.....
Whats the answer...more political accountability...how do we get that...outside my pay rate as the saying goes....

[Black Orchid]

cods, I think that instead, we should be placing more scrutiny on our leaders...they have to be held more accountable...
We will be told what to think about the Notre Dame fire...obvious to most that Macron has enough on his plate with the
yellow vest protesters without affixing blame to anyone...any official inquiry will reveal an accident...
Our leaders constantly lie to us, and the people have had enough.
If we hark back to the middle ages, nothing has changed, if the peasants were copping it, then theyd storm the castle.
Unfortunately, there aint no castle these days...
People are entitled to ask questions of our leaders, and when all we get is lies, and the media blatantly take sides, the people are left with confusion.....
Whats the answer...more political accountability...how do we get that...outside my pay rate as the saying goes....

Couldn't agree more. Our *cough* politicians are amongst the highest paid in the world and it's about time they were accountable to the people they supposedly stand for.

Turnbull got paid more than POTUS and what did he do for us? What is he still doing for us other than to make our political system completely unstable?

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull is the highest-paid politician in the OECD, new figures show, earning up to 10 times the average wage - the second-highest disparity with the majority of workers in the developed world.

Mr Turnbull's base pay rose to $527,854 a year after the independent Remuneration Tribunal ordered a 2 per cent pay rise for politicians last year, delivering the prime minister a $10,000 pay jump.

The analysis by market research firm IG puts Mr Turnbull above Swiss President Alain Berset, who will earn $483,000 this year, and US President Donald Trump, who has earned $400,000 in his first year in the White House.

Mr Turnbull is not only ahead in absolute terms but also relative to the average worker and gross domestic product per capita.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal ... 4zhp5.html

[cods]

really billy you seriously think a common man even if he does have a label PM.President.King..

can change the world you really think thats possible....


no mate we are our own persons... each one of us...we are all responsible and we sit back and expect one " man" yeah almost always a man...

to change everything about us......

you do realise thats what they do at election time dont you???.....hey you!... whatsyourname.. vote for me...and I will promise you the world..


and blindly you do...........this i was more referring to global things ..the weather is worsening more earthquakes more mud slides

we blame climate change.... well we have to blame something dont we??..

what I am saying is maybe its something else all of us need to take a good look at our behavior even our acceptance of appalling behavior....

instead we attack each other.....

no mate I dont look to one man with a title to fix things.......

when the govt changes hands.... so we suddenly become happy or better than we were ... not that I have noticed...

[cods]

I do not see where MONEY has actually made anyone truly HAPPY


IS MALCOLM HAPPY???.......I dont think so..

[Neferti]

Turncoat made most of his "millions", when he sold OzEmail to iiNet.

He had purchased a stake in Ozemail in 1994 for $500,000 and sold his stake for $57 million in 1999

[Black Orchid]

Turncoat made most of his "millions", when he sold OzEmail to iiNet.

He had purchased a stake in Ozemail in 1994 for $500,000 and sold his stake for $57 million in 1999

Rather a large short term profit

[billy the kid]

really billy you seriously think a common man even if he does have a label PM.President.King..

can change the world you really think thats possible....


no mate we are our own persons... each one of us...we are all responsible and we sit back and expect one " man" yeah almost always a man...

to change everything about us......

you do realise thats what they do at election time dont you???.....hey you!... whatsyourname.. vote for me...and I will promise you the world..


and blindly you do...........this i was more referring to global things ..the weather is worsening more earthquakes more mud slides

we blame climate change.... well we have to blame something dont we??..

what I am saying is maybe its something else all of us need to take a good look at our behavior even our acceptance of appalling behavior....

instead we attack each other.....

no mate I dont look to one man with a title to fix things.......

when the govt changes hands.... so we suddenly become happy or better than we were ... not that I have noticed...

wtf are you babbling on about...I simply suggested politicians should be held more accountable....
Us peasants will always be under the jackboots of politicians...thats why people revolt...
Someone just posted about Turnbulls millions (I presume he will still get a non means tested political
pension when he leaves politics) and youre babbling on about fkn climate change and being nice to everyone.....
A world without pain...yep...thatll work.....