If you can't work out what my answer was, well, there isn't any hope in us having a conversation, now is there? I answer your questions, my way. In this case, with a simile, comparing Catholics, in a Protestant country to Muslims in a Christian country. As I pointed out, nearly everything that is claimed about Muslims has been claimed before, about other migrant groups. Catholics, Irish, Italians, Greeks, Yugoslavs, Indochinese, Chinese, Indians, you name it.billy the kid wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:27 pmOnce again you refuse to answer my question and you serve up crap like "they are persecuted by MSM"brian ross wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:22 pmWhy did Catholic demands become greater and greater? In reality, they didn't but in the minds of the Protestants, they did. Protestants believed all sorts of bullshit about the Papists. They actively discriminated against them. My own father was forced to move from the South Australian public service to the Commonwealth public service 'cause the SA public service had a general rule that Catholics couldn't be promoted to clerks and had to remain as clerical assistants. Private industry was just as bad. It wasn't until Menzies' bit the bullet after the Catholics had closed all their schools and sent all their students to the state schools and gave the Catholics the money they wanted for (initially) science blocks that the impasse was broken. Before 1960, Catholic schools were the equivalent of slums.billy the kid wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:56 pmWhy is it then, that once islamic population increases in any country, that islamic demands become greater and greater.brian ross wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:48 pmDo Extreme Christians still "follow the Bible and are Christians," Sprint?sprintcyclist wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:40 pm
So, still islamic?
They still follow the koran and are muslims ?
Religious belief is like a spectrum disorder. Some people have it worse than others and some have it in it's most extreme forms. The majority of Muslims are law-abiding, well reconciled, peaceful people who just want to be left alone to get on with their lives. Just as the Catholics were before 1960. Nearly everything claimed daily about Muslims was once claimed about Catholics. Are the Catholics today a threat to Australian society and it's democracy, Sprint?
That sectarian divide has largely disappeared from Australian society and it's consciousness. Muslims are a tiny minority in Australian society. They are actively persecuted by the MSM, by Islamophobes. Most Muslims are law-abiding, ordinary, well-assimilated and well adjusted people. My goodness, even the PHONies had a Muslim candidate in the NSW state election. They aren't interested in Terrorists or Terrorism. Many are the victims of such persecution, they came here for a new life and all they get continually is lies and bullshit spread about them. Talk about alienation...
Give me some links which illustrate that persecution you are talking about...and for once in your life, answer a question I have asked....
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What a load of crap.. you dont answer anything...you deflect with strawmen and comparisons and relativism....you have no guts to defend what you stand for....you are always defending islam, yet you havent got the guts to answer a simple question with a simply answer.....gutless...absolutely gutless......brian ross wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:57 pmIf you can't work out what my answer was, well, there isn't any hope in us having a conversation, now is there? I answer your questions, my way. In this case, with a simile, comparing Catholics, in a Protestant country to Muslims in a Christian country. As I pointed out, nearly everything that is claimed about Muslims has been claimed before, about other migrant groups. Catholics, Irish, Italians, Greeks, Yugoslavs, Indochinese, Chinese, Indians, you name it.billy the kid wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:27 pmOnce again you refuse to answer my question and you serve up crap like "they are persecuted by MSM"brian ross wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:22 pmWhy did Catholic demands become greater and greater? In reality, they didn't but in the minds of the Protestants, they did. Protestants believed all sorts of bullshit about the Papists. They actively discriminated against them. My own father was forced to move from the South Australian public service to the Commonwealth public service 'cause the SA public service had a general rule that Catholics couldn't be promoted to clerks and had to remain as clerical assistants. Private industry was just as bad. It wasn't until Menzies' bit the bullet after the Catholics had closed all their schools and sent all their students to the state schools and gave the Catholics the money they wanted for (initially) science blocks that the impasse was broken. Before 1960, Catholic schools were the equivalent of slums.billy the kid wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:56 pmWhy is it then, that once islamic population increases in any country, that islamic demands become greater and greater.brian ross wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:48 pm
Do Extreme Christians still "follow the Bible and are Christians," Sprint?
Religious belief is like a spectrum disorder. Some people have it worse than others and some have it in it's most extreme forms. The majority of Muslims are law-abiding, well reconciled, peaceful people who just want to be left alone to get on with their lives. Just as the Catholics were before 1960. Nearly everything claimed daily about Muslims was once claimed about Catholics. Are the Catholics today a threat to Australian society and it's democracy, Sprint?
That sectarian divide has largely disappeared from Australian society and it's consciousness. Muslims are a tiny minority in Australian society. They are actively persecuted by the MSM, by Islamophobes. Most Muslims are law-abiding, ordinary, well-assimilated and well adjusted people. My goodness, even the PHONies had a Muslim candidate in the NSW state election. They aren't interested in Terrorists or Terrorism. Many are the victims of such persecution, they came here for a new life and all they get continually is lies and bullshit spread about them. Talk about alienation...
Give me some links which illustrate that persecution you are talking about...and for once in your life, answer a question I have asked....
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yes.billy the kid wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:08 pm
What a load of crap.. you dont answer anything...you deflect with strawmen and comparisons and relativism....you have no guts to defend what you stand for....you are always defending islam, yet you havent got the guts to answer a simple question with a simply answer.....gutless...absolutely gutless......
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Actually, Billy, like most Islamophobes you equate defence of Muslims with a defence of Islam. I never defend Islam. I only ever defend Muslims. So, why don't you run along? It is obvious that we are working on very different planes of existence. You keep on with your Islamophobia, if that keeps you happy. I'll keep on defending Muslims from persecution by Islamophobes just like you. OK?billy the kid wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:08 pmWhat a load of crap.. you dont answer anything...you deflect with strawmen and comparisons and relativism....you have no guts to defend what you stand for....you are always defending islam, yet you havent got the guts to answer a simple question with a simply answer.....gutless...absolutely gutless......brian ross wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:57 pmIf you can't work out what my answer was, well, there isn't any hope in us having a conversation, now is there? I answer your questions, my way. In this case, with a simile, comparing Catholics, in a Protestant country to Muslims in a Christian country. As I pointed out, nearly everything that is claimed about Muslims has been claimed before, about other migrant groups. Catholics, Irish, Italians, Greeks, Yugoslavs, Indochinese, Chinese, Indians, you name it.billy the kid wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:27 pmOnce again you refuse to answer my question and you serve up crap like "they are persecuted by MSM"brian ross wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:22 pmWhy did Catholic demands become greater and greater? In reality, they didn't but in the minds of the Protestants, they did. Protestants believed all sorts of bullshit about the Papists. They actively discriminated against them. My own father was forced to move from the South Australian public service to the Commonwealth public service 'cause the SA public service had a general rule that Catholics couldn't be promoted to clerks and had to remain as clerical assistants. Private industry was just as bad. It wasn't until Menzies' bit the bullet after the Catholics had closed all their schools and sent all their students to the state schools and gave the Catholics the money they wanted for (initially) science blocks that the impasse was broken. Before 1960, Catholic schools were the equivalent of slums.billy the kid wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:56 pm
Why is it then, that once islamic population increases in any country, that islamic demands become greater and greater.
That sectarian divide has largely disappeared from Australian society and it's consciousness. Muslims are a tiny minority in Australian society. They are actively persecuted by the MSM, by Islamophobes. Most Muslims are law-abiding, ordinary, well-assimilated and well adjusted people. My goodness, even the PHONies had a Muslim candidate in the NSW state election. They aren't interested in Terrorists or Terrorism. Many are the victims of such persecution, they came here for a new life and all they get continually is lies and bullshit spread about them. Talk about alienation...
Give me some links which illustrate that persecution you are talking about...and for once in your life, answer a question I have asked....
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So are Islamophobes it seems, Sprint.sprintcyclist wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:11 pmyes.billy the kid wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:08 pm
What a load of crap.. you dont answer anything...you deflect with strawmen and comparisons and relativism....you have no guts to defend what you stand for....you are always defending islam, yet you havent got the guts to answer a simple question with a simply answer.....gutless...absolutely gutless......
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When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for religious privileges, other components tend to creep in. This is how it works. As long as the Muslim population remains around 2% in any given country, they will for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, & not as a threat. This is the case in:
United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities & disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails & among street gangs. This is happening in:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%
After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%
Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts nor schools nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.
United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities & disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails & among street gangs. This is happening in:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%
After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%
Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts nor schools nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.
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Excellent post Billy
They do this here ...
They do this here ...
And this ...At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities & disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails & among street gangs. This is happening in:
They even threatened local take away shops near me. One shop took bacon out of his displayed caesar salad although you could ask for it and he would cook it up. There was a backlash from his patrons and he started displaying bacon again. The standover mussies who threatened him didn't even eat there. Just flexing their 'muscles' no doubt.From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.
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Try not to use the words muzzies and pollies....sorry..dont mean to be petty...Black Orchid wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:30 pmExcellent post Billy
They do this here ...
And this ...At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities & disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails & among street gangs. This is happening in:
They even threatened local take away shops near me. One shop took bacon out of his displayed caesar salad although you could ask for it and he would cook it up. There was a backlash from his patrons and he started displaying bacon again. The standover mussies who threatened him didn't even eat there. Just flexing their 'muscles' no doubt.From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.
Dont forget we cant say merry xmas any more....it might upset them...we must now say happy holidays...
And of course young muslim men in Punchbowl Schools refuse to shake hands and accept awards from non muslim female teachers...of course when their "radicalization" is reported to the Department of Education......nothing happens.....funny that....
and of course the removal of the nativity scene in Roselands Miranda as it was offensive....that was many years ago...I was there...
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First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller.
Yeah, lets persecute the Muslims, hey? Lets call them all Terrorists, right? Lets claim they just want to take over Australia, OK?
God you Islamophobes are just full of hate, you realise?
So, how soon before we see you making Muslims wear crescents on their clothing? How soon before we see you bundling them onto trains in cattle trucks? How soon before the camps start operating? God you lot sicken me. You really do. You're just little fascists all in your little black uniforms.
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller.
Yeah, lets persecute the Muslims, hey? Lets call them all Terrorists, right? Lets claim they just want to take over Australia, OK?
God you Islamophobes are just full of hate, you realise?
So, how soon before we see you making Muslims wear crescents on their clothing? How soon before we see you bundling them onto trains in cattle trucks? How soon before the camps start operating? God you lot sicken me. You really do. You're just little fascists all in your little black uniforms.
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Show us some statistics...quotes from the koran...quotes from the sunnah or the hadith.......anything to support your bullshit....brian ross wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:02 pmFirst they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller.
Yeah, lets persecute the Muslims, hey? Lets call them all Terrorists, right? Lets claim they just want to take over Australia, OK?
God you Islamophobes are just full of hate, you realise?
So, how soon before we see you making Muslims wear crescents on their clothing? How soon before we see you bundling them onto trains in cattle trucks? How soon before the camps start operating? God you lot sicken me. You really do. You're just little fascists all in your little black uniforms.
Maybe even quotes from islamic clerics...you know like muslim clerics in Australia which suggest that non muslim women are like raw meat....and that muslim men can and should beat their wives....
Anything....anything to support your bullshit argument.......
Afterall....these muslim clerics are muslims.........arent they.....
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