It is 1933...

[brian ross]

Stephen Fry fiction?

Your Homophobia showing through again, Black Orchid? Stephen Fry is actually quite a good writer. You should try reading some of his fiction and non-fiction. You might be surprised.

[Black Orchid]

Stephen Fry fiction?

Your Homophobia showing through again, Black Orchid? Stephen Fry is actually quite a good writer. You should try reading some of his fiction and non-fiction. You might be surprised.

I should like Fry and respect his delusions just because he is gay?

I don't particularly like Stephen Fry and quoting his writings on time travel does not make a valid argument. It makes you look delusional and quite insane.

It has nothing to do with being homophobic you idjit,

[brian ross]

Stephen Fry fiction?

Your Homophobia showing through again, Black Orchid? Stephen Fry is actually quite a good writer. You should try reading some of his fiction and non-fiction. You might be surprised.

I should like Fry and respect his delusions just because he is gay?

I don't particularly like Stephen Fry and quoting his writings on time travel does not make a valid argument. It makes you look delusional and quite insane.

It has nothing to do with being homophobic you idjit,

Have you ever read anything by Fry? You don't have to like him but at least you should sample his work before commentating, don't you think, Black Orchid? It's like suggesting you hate Curry before you've even tasted it. Are you frightened reading him will turn you gay?

[Black Orchid]

Who said anything about hate idjit? Only you. Repeatedly.

Why the hell would I hate Stephen Fry? You really are quite 'speshal' Brian.

Are you frightened reading him will turn you gay?

Get out of that little kiddies playground of mud you love so much and grow up Brian

[Nicole]

@ Brian

More or less, "Nicole". I used the novel to illustrate the idea that Hitler was just a man. The Nazis were a movement. A movement created by the turmoil at the end of WWI and in the Weimar Republic's inability to apparently manage the economy of Germany. There was the danger that someone worse than Hitler might have arisen, if Hitler hadn't. What always amazed me about the Nazis was just how inefficient they actually were. Their society was closer to a medieval feudal one than a modern one.

Just so I'm absolutely clear, are you saying there were various setting conditions in Germany Post WW1 that created the Nazi movement, and that if Hitler hadn't ridden that wave someone else would have? Please confirm.

[Neferti]

Stephen Fry? He's got a face like a run over jam tin. Plus he is about as funny as a crutch!

I do wonder whether he is the male or female in his partnership/marriage to whatshisname.

Oh, and he is a Leftard and hates Trump.

http://www.stephenfry.com/2016/03/trump ... rsoverall/

[brian ross]

@ Brian

More or less, "Nicole". I used the novel to illustrate the idea that Hitler was just a man. The Nazis were a movement. A movement created by the turmoil at the end of WWI and in the Weimar Republic's inability to apparently manage the economy of Germany. There was the danger that someone worse than Hitler might have arisen, if Hitler hadn't. What always amazed me about the Nazis was just how inefficient they actually were. Their society was closer to a medieval feudal one than a modern one.

Just so I'm absolutely clear, are you saying there were various setting conditions in Germany Post WW1 that created the Nazi movement, and that if Hitler hadn't ridden that wave someone else would have? Please confirm.

Basically, yes, "Nicole". Germany was a ferment of differing political movements, Communism, Nationalist, Fascist, you name it. If the Weimer had been firmer, it might have resisted the rise of Fascism but personally, I doubt.

[Neferti]

Rowan Atkinson as Toby the Devil ....

[Nicole]

@ Brian

More or less, "Nicole". I used the novel to illustrate the idea that Hitler was just a man. The Nazis were a movement. A movement created by the turmoil at the end of WWI and in the Weimar Republic's inability to apparently manage the economy of Germany. There was the danger that someone worse than Hitler might have arisen, if Hitler hadn't. What always amazed me about the Nazis was just how inefficient they actually were. Their society was closer to a medieval feudal one than a modern one.

Just so I'm absolutely clear, are you saying there were various setting conditions in Germany Post WW1 that created the Nazi movement, and that if Hitler hadn't ridden that wave someone else would have? Please confirm.

Basically, yes, "Nicole". Germany was a ferment of differing political movements, Communism, Nationalist, Fascist, you name it. If the Weimer had been firmer, it might have resisted the rise of Fascism but personally, I doubt.

So Brian I’m very curious. Do you see any of these types of setting conditions - as you have agreed created the Nazi movement in Germany in the 1930s - in any westernised countries in 2019?

[brian ross]

@ Brian

More or less, "Nicole". I used the novel to illustrate the idea that Hitler was just a man. The Nazis were a movement. A movement created by the turmoil at the end of WWI and in the Weimar Republic's inability to apparently manage the economy of Germany. There was the danger that someone worse than Hitler might have arisen, if Hitler hadn't. What always amazed me about the Nazis was just how inefficient they actually were. Their society was closer to a medieval feudal one than a modern one.

Just so I'm absolutely clear, are you saying there were various setting conditions in Germany Post WW1 that created the Nazi movement, and that if Hitler hadn't ridden that wave someone else would have? Please confirm.

Basically, yes, "Nicole". Germany was a ferment of differing political movements, Communism, Nationalist, Fascist, you name it. If the Weimer had been firmer, it might have resisted the rise of Fascism but personally, I doubt.

So Brian I’m very curious. Do you see any of these types of setting conditions - as you have agreed created the Nazi movement in Germany in the 1930s - in any westernised countries in 2019?

Not really, "Nicole". Despite all the brouhaha that certain people might create about Muslims or Immigrants in general or left-wingers or any other group, most western countries are actually fairly settled. None are suffering galloping inflation, massive unemployment, street fights on a daily basis, etc. You have protest movements in various Western European countries and the US and to a lesser extent in Australia but they are hardly representative of the majority of the populations of those countries. Yes, there are problems but they are relatively minor. War in most Western countries are a forgotten thing. The last war in Western Europe was two-three generations ago. The US hasn't been directly embroiled in a war since the Civil War (or "war of Northern Aggression" as some seem to like to call it) over ~150 years ago. Australia hasn't been directly attacked since WWII, two-three generations ago. The environment today is in no way similar to Wiemar Germany. The extreme-rightwingers are not anywhere as popular as the Nazis were then. Hansonism is bubbling along at about 15% at it's top level. Fraser Anning represents 19 people, who's votes he didn't even win.

Do you perceive "these types of setting conditions," anywhere, "Nicole"? You like to ask me questions but then, I haven't really asked any, yet.