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Re: islam

Post by brian ross » Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:05 pm

As I have asked in the past, Billy, why does it matter or not if I am a Muslim?

It appears that you believe I am a Muslim simply because I speak out against Islamophobia. That is rather a simplistic view, don't you think? So, If I spoke out against Nazi persecution of the Jews, I'd have to be a Jew? How about South African persecution of Blacks? How about Australian persecution of Indigenous Australians? Do I have to change the colour of my skin as well?

All are questions, which I don't doubt you'll avoid answering, which is typical of the mindset of a bigot. Islamophobes hate Muslims - all Muslims - simply because they are well, Muslims. They ignore that there is a very small minority of Muslims who have an Islamist mindset - which is BTW, very similar to the Islamophobic mindset - limited in it's scope and it's willing to tolerate pluralism. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, assimilated people in most Western nations, including Australia. All the Muslims want is for the Islamphobes to remember that they are just as much, if not more so, the victims of the Islamists.

Don't worry, Billy, you'd best understand Pastor Niemoller's poem:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

I'll speak out for you, if you're ever persecuted... :roll: :roll:
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Re: islam

Post by billy the kid » Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:32 pm

brian ross wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:05 pm
As I have asked in the past, Billy, why does it matter or not if I am a Muslim?

It appears that you believe I am a Muslim simply because I speak out against Islamophobia. That is rather a simplistic view, don't you think? So, If I spoke out against Nazi persecution of the Jews, I'd have to be a Jew? How about South African persecution of Blacks? How about Australian persecution of Indigenous Australians? Do I have to change the colour of my skin as well?

All are questions, which I don't doubt you'll avoid answering, which is typical of the mindset of a bigot. Islamophobes hate Muslims - all Muslims - simply because they are well, Muslims. They ignore that there is a very small minority of Muslims who have an Islamist mindset - which is BTW, very similar to the Islamophobic mindset - limited in it's scope and it's willing to tolerate pluralism. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, assimilated people in most Western nations, including Australia. All the Muslims want is for the Islamphobes to remember that they are just as much, if not more so, the victims of the Islamists.

Don't worry, Billy, you'd best understand Pastor Niemoller's poem:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

I'll speak out for you, if you're ever persecuted... :roll: :roll:
More relativism from abdul...
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Re: islam

Post by Black Orchid » Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:55 pm

brian ross wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:05 pm
All are questions, which I don't doubt you'll avoid answering, which is typical of the mindset of a bigot.
Fell into your own trap there Brian. You never answer questions which makes you a bigot by your own definition.

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Post by sprintcyclist » Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:01 pm

........... The Austrian government is to order the closure of seven mosques and expel up to 60 imams in a crackdown on political Islam and Turkish nationalism, it has announced.

“Parallel societies, political Islam and radicalisation have no place in our country,” Sebastian Kurz, the Austrian chancellor, said. ................

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/0 ... cal-islam/
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Re: islam

Post by brian ross » Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:35 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:55 pm
brian ross wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:05 pm
All are questions, which I don't doubt you'll avoid answering, which is typical of the mindset of a bigot.
Fell into your own trap there Brian. You never answer questions which makes you a bigot by your own definition.
I answer sensible questions, Black Orchid. Asked in a polite manner, of course. Billy the Kid thus far has failed on both counts. Tsk, tsk. :roll:
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Re: islam

Post by Black Orchid » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:53 pm

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2qOU94dgj8[/youtube]

'Muslim Community Patrols' parading around like police. Give them an inch! 16.5k comments in little over a month.

Stupid link thing won't work properly again.

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Post by Nicole » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:59 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:53 pm
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2qOU94dgj8[/youtube]

'Muslim Community Patrols' parading around like police. Give them an inch! 16.5k comments in little over a month.

Stupid link thing won't work properly again.

:shock:

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Post by Black Orchid » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:02 pm

My sentiments exactly! :shock:

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Post by brian ross » Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:23 pm

The US is bizarre. No other word describes it. Americans take their own responsibility for their own security. Muslims are entitled to mount their own patrols to ensure the security of Muslims without bias.

Now, if this was a report about Australia, I think I would be a little more alarmed but it isn't. Funny that, hey?

Yeah, you don't persecute Muslims for being Muslims, do you, Black Orchid... :roll:
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Re: islam

Post by Black Orchid » Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:17 pm

brian ross wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:23 pm
The US is bizarre. No other word describes it. Americans take their own responsibility for their own security. Muslims are entitled to mount their own patrols to ensure the security of Muslims without bias.
Absolute crap once again. Muslims are not entitled to patrol around pretending to be police. If they want to do that they can rack off back to where they came from and patrol there. Whilst in a host country they need to rely on the host country's law enforcement.

Go and live in the middle east and ride around in your own little Noddy fake police car and see what happens. :roll:

Jesus!

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