Pakistan v India

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Re: Pakistan v India

Post by FLEKTARN » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:35 pm

Valkie wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:38 pm
Possibly a cure for the world's overpopulation

They could bomb the world back to sustainable population and get rid of really nasty people at the same time.

The whole population of Europe is 742.95 million. That includes niggers too. India's population is 1.36 billion people. India is f*cking almost two times the population of Europe. In 10 years they'll be two times more than the whole Europe. Insane.

And Pakistan's population is 203.32 million people. Equal to the populations of France, Italy, Spain and Canada combined.

I don't give a sh*t about these 3rd world idiots who don't realize they're the reason for the reducing of our resources.

This is not about f*cking racism. It's about madness. The Earth is going to collapse. Implode.
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Re: Pakistan v India

Post by Bobby » Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:10 am

Here's a good article:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/01/asia ... index.html

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Following their separation in 1947, relations between India and Pakistan have been in a near constant state of agitation.
The two sides have fought several major wars -- the last being in 1999 -- involving thousands of casualties and numerous skirmishes across the Line of Control in the contested Kashmir region.



The nuclear threat
One area where Indian and Pakistan are evenly matched is the area that raises the most worry whenever hostilities spike between the two -- nuclear weapons.
Figures from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute last year show Pakistan with 140 to 150 nuclear warheads and India with 130 to 140.

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Re: Pakistan v India

Post by Valkie » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:37 pm

FLEKTARN wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:35 pm
Valkie wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:38 pm
Possibly a cure for the world's overpopulation

They could bomb the world back to sustainable population and get rid of really nasty people at the same time.

The whole population of Europe is 742.95 million. That includes niggers too. India's population is 1.36 billion people. India is f*cking almost two times the population of Europe. In 10 years they'll be two times more than the whole Europe. Insane.

And Pakistan's population is 203.32 million people. Equal to the populations of France, Italy, Spain and Canada combined.

I don't give a sh*t about these 3rd world idiots who don't realize they're the reason for the reducing of our resources.

This is not about f*cking racism. It's about madness. The Earth is going to collapse. Implode.

It's inevitable my friend

Super powers want to use their weapons.

Every single weapon invented has been used.

And we now have the most destructive weapons ever invented which have yet to be used in any conflict.
Yes they dropped the bomb, and a second one just to be sure
But nukes have yet to be used in anger.

The sociopathic, narcissistic, morons we call leaders
Will one day fire them off
It's simply a matter of time, that's all.
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A world free from the plague of Islam
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Re: Pakistan v India

Post by brian ross » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:27 pm

Actually, many Weapons of Massed Destruction have either only been used once or twice or never. Atomic weapons have only been used to end WWII, in Japan, being dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Biological weapons have never been used in wartime. Chemical weapons were used in WWI, Ethopia in the 1930s and Yemen in the 1960s. Of them all, only Atomic weapons actually deliver what they promise and they do so appallingly, no one is willing to use them. Chemical weapons are highly dependent on weather conditions to be effective at all - something the Germans discovered during WWI. Biological weapons are too slow acting, too imprecise and offer only low casualty rates (and are actually too fragile to use effectively in modern munitions).
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Re: Pakistan v India

Post by FLEKTARN » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:52 am

Valkie wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:37 pm
FLEKTARN wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:35 pm
Valkie wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:38 pm
Possibly a cure for the world's overpopulation

They could bomb the world back to sustainable population and get rid of really nasty people at the same time.

The whole population of Europe is 742.95 million. That includes niggers too. India's population is 1.36 billion people. India is f*cking almost two times the population of Europe. In 10 years they'll be two times more than the whole Europe. Insane.

And Pakistan's population is 203.32 million people. Equal to the populations of France, Italy, Spain and Canada combined.

I don't give a sh*t about these 3rd world idiots who don't realize they're the reason for the reducing of our resources.

This is not about f*cking racism. It's about madness. The Earth is going to collapse. Implode.

It's inevitable my friend

Super powers want to use their weapons.

Every single weapon invented has been used.

And we now have the most destructive weapons ever invented which have yet to be used in any conflict.
Yes they dropped the bomb, and a second one just to be sure
But nukes have yet to be used in anger.

The sociopathic, narcissistic, morons we call leaders
Will one day fire them off
It's simply a matter of time, that's all.
Probably not. The "Upper Class" will not use WMDs because they need the cheap workforce coming from the 3rd World.
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Re: Pakistan v India

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:02 pm

Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:55 pm
India would win.

When push comes to shove.
1 on 1 yes, but Pakistan is allied to China (and clandestinely with North Korea), and India historically has been pretty chummy with Russia.
India's getting closer to USA these days, so Russia's probably out.

India's far from faultless, in this case Pakistan has a claim because during Mohandas Ghandi and Mohammed Ali Ginner's partitioning of India agreement Kashmir went to Pakistan, as Kashmir has a predominantly Muslim population. But Kashmir was ruled by a Raja (Hindu) not a Sultan (Muslim) so India reneged on the deal. As for the Punjab, well Pakistan thought they could take it, even though the population is predominantly Siek (who traditionally fought Muslims), so it's partitioned just like Kashmir.

So even though I know the history I'd back India because I dislike Muslims more than I do Hindus.

Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:12 pm
We need to reduce the population not wipe it out.
Spot on!
Humans are part of the ecology.
In places where humans have been removed (usually by govt mandates) the land has gone to shit, and humans (in our case Aboriginals) had to be reintroduced to maintain the land.
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Re: Pakistan v India

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:17 pm

Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:15 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:12 pm
We need to reduce the population not wipe it out.
‘With a massive Nuclear War it wouldn’t kill everyone - the preppers and hunters will survive.

City Slickers haven’t got a hope - they think Milk, Meat and Vegitable magically appear on supermarket shelves.

I would struggle myself these days - but if i was able to find a gun and ammunition i think i could do ok.
In Britain a few years ago they ran a test/study to see how long it would take for social order to break down if the food supply was cut.
The result was 4 days till lawlessness.

As for using firearms to survive, you need to stick with a common calibre so ammo is easier to source, and that varies from country to country.
So in Oz if using civilian firearms you're best sticking with .22, .243 and 12guage
If using a military or paramilitary weapon you best stick with .223 aka 5.56mm
in many other parts of the world where AK variants are common you'd stick with 7.62X39mm aka Ruski .308 (which the Chinese use in their 'Type10/SKS).

When the ammo runs out you'd be best with a compound bow, because while it takes time you can make your own arrows.

Of course the most useful tool of all is a large knife.
And it'd be worthwhile having binoculars or a field telescope in your kit too.
But the most important item to have is a water bottle.
If Donald Trump is so close to the Ruskis, why couldn't he get Vladimir Putin to put novichok in Xi Jjinping's lipstick?

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Re: Pakistan v India

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Re: Pakistan v India

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:27 pm

brian ross wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:27 pm
... Biological weapons have never been used in wartime. ...
Wrong!

The British used blankets infected with smallpox to decimate American Indians in Canada.
The Japanese dropped porcelain vials containing flees infected with bubonic plague on Chinese populations during WW2,
and infected wells with cholera.
USA sprayed both biological and chemical agents on Chinese and North Korean troops in the Korean war.

For someone who claims to have been in the army, you seem to know fuck all about war.
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Re: Pakistan v India

Post by brian ross » Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:30 pm

Outlaw Yogi wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:27 pm
brian ross wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:27 pm
... Biological weapons have never been used in wartime. ...
Wrong!

The British used blankets infected with smallpox to decimate American Indians in Canada.
The Japanese dropped porcelain vials containing flees infected with bubonic plague on Chinese populations during WW2,
and infected wells with cholera.
USA sprayed both biological and chemical agents on Chinese and North Korean troops in the Korean war.

For someone who claims to have been in the army, you seem to know fuck all about war.
Correct. My mistake. I will amend my statement, "not used in modern war". As the examples you provide (and there is considerable doubt about the utility of smallpox infected blankets and the US efforts in Korea were basically Communist black propaganda) proved, biological weapons are fragile. The Japanese efforts in China amounted to nought. Biological agents are fragile and invariably will only infect and kill about 30% of a population into which they are introduced. Interestingly, the Japanese with their Unit 731 in Manchuria were at the end of WWII the most advanced at producing biological agents. The commander of that unit Shirō Ishii was given immunity from prosecution in return for his revealing the secrets he had developed during the war. Australian soldiers were amongst his victims - indeed their claims under (now) Department of Veterans Affairs was the first Australia heard of it in the 1960s.
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