Andrew Bolt

[Black Orchid]

Seems to be a lot of Peado sympathisers in here when it's one of their own

This post is the epitome of the hypocritical and unrealistic insanity of the progressive left. Is Pell a politician? How is he "one of their own"?

Seriously get a grip. Or, I should say, let go and get a grip of something else.

[Black Orchid]

Worth a read ...

On appeal a panel of judges can decide that the verdict could not rationally have been reached on the basis of the evidence.

With the lifting of the trial judge’s order banning coverage of the conviction of Cardinal George Pell this past December on charges of “historical sexual abuse,” the facts can finally be laid out for those willing to consider them. (Disclosure: Cardinal Pell and I are longtime friends.)

Victoria police commenced an investigation one year before any complaints had been filed. During that investigation, the police took out newspaper ads seeking information about any untoward behaviour with minors at the St. Patrick’s Cathedral in Melbourne —without any hint of such misbehaviour having been received by the authorities.

Once charges had been laid and Cardinal Pell had returned to Australia from his post at the Vatican, a committal hearing (to determine whether the charges were capable of being tried) was held. The committal-hearing judge threw out several charges but allowed others to go forward — even though she observed that she would not vote to convict on several charges, she thought they should be tried anyway.

In Cardinal Pell’s first trial, held under the media-suppression order, the defence dismantled the prosecution’s case while shedding light on the inadequacy of the police investigative process; that trial resulted in a hung jury, which voted 10–2 for acquittal. The foreman and several other members of the jury were in tears when the verdict was read.

During the retrial, the defence demonstrated that, in order to sustain the charge that Pell had accosted and sexually abused two choirboys after Mass one Sunday, ten improbable things would have had to have happened and all within ten minutes:

• Archbishop Pell abandoned his decades-long practice of greeting congregants outside the cathedral after Mass.

• Pell, who was typically accompanied by a master of ceremonies or sacristan when he was vested for Mass, entered the carefully controlled space of the vesting sacristy alone.

• The master of ceremonies, charged with helping the archbishop disrobe while removing his own liturgical vestments, had disappeared.

• The sacristan, charged with the care of the locked sacristy, had also disappeared.

• The sacristan did not go back and forth between the sacristy and the cathedral sanctuary, removing missals and Mass vessels, as was his responsibility and consistent practice.

• The altar servers, like the sacristan, simply disappeared, rather than helping the sacristan clear the sanctuary by bringing liturgical vessels and books back to the sacristy.

• The priests who concelebrated the Mass with Pell were not in the sacristy disrobing after the ceremony.

• At least 40 people did not notice that two choirboys left the post-Mass procession.

• Two choirboys entered the sacristy, started gulping altar wine, and were accosted and abused by Archbishop Pell — while the sacristy door was open and the archbishop was in full liturgical vestments.

• The abused choirboys then entered the choir room, through two locked doors, without anyone noticing, and participated in a post-Mass rehearsal; no one asked why they had been missing for ten minutes.

Before the trial, one of the complainants died, having told his mother that he had never been assaulted. During the trial, there was no corroboration of the surviving complainant’s charges. Other choirboys (now, of course, grown), as well as the choir director and his assistant, the adult members of the choir, the master of ceremonies, and the sacristan all testified, and from their testimony we learn the following: that no one recalled any choirboys bolting from the procession after Mass; that none of those in the immediate vicinity of the alleged abuse noticed anything; that indeed nothing could have happened in a secured space without someone noticing; and that there was neither gossip nor rumor about any such dramatic and vile incident afterward.

Notwithstanding this evidence of Cardinal Pell’s innocence (an innocence affirmed by ten of the twelve members of the first trial jury), the second trial jury returned a verdict of 12–0 for conviction. Observers at the trial told me that the trial judge seemed surprised on hearing the verdict. The verdict and the finding of the first, hung jury suggest that, in the media circus surrounding Pell, a fair jury trial was virtually impossible. That point was recently conceded by the attorney general of the State of Victoria, who suggested that the law might be amended to permit bench trials by a judge alone in such cases — an option not afforded George Pell. (Shortly before the media-suppression order was lifted on February 25, the Victoria prosecutors dropped two more charges against Cardinal Pell, of even greater dubiety and dating back some four decades.)

Cardinal Pell’s lawyers will of course appeal. The appeal will be heard by a panel of senior judges, who can decide that what is called in Australia an “unsafe verdict” — one that the jury could not rationally have reached on the basis of the evidence — was rendered and that therefore Pell’s conviction is null and void. For Cardinal Pell’s sake, and for the reputation of the justice system in the state of Victoria, one must hope that the appellate judges will do the right thing.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/ ... -stand-up/

Personally, I think there is very much more than 'reasonable doubt' surrounding this case. The Catholic church has been under scrutiny for quite some time and RIGHTLY SO but this screams scapegoat to me and that is just not right.

[Serial Brain 9]

I certainly agree with you bo

This was just a “hit job” decided on emotions and media hype rather than FACTS.

FACTS MATTER!

IF this farce is not overturned by Senior Judges then we’ll know that it’s also a political “Hitjob”

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Others may want to debate other matters in regards to the Church with hiding problem peado priests etc but this trial has no relevance to those matters and therefor irrelevant.

Yesterday’s Herald Sun was a Disgrace having a picture of Pell with the Bold Headlines saying - GUILTY AS SIN

Who do the media think they are? Judge, Jury and Executioner?

[brian ross]

Question - Wasn't Pell found guilty by the Court for Paedophilia?

Answer - yes.

Doesn't that make him "guilty as sin"?

Yes, of course it does.

What people appear to have missed is that the MSM was suppressed from reporting on Pell's being found guilty. They are now coming out with a vengeance against him, particularly after the findings of the Royal Commision into Paedophila.

Was Pell a conservative member of the Church Clergy? Yes, he was. So much so that he was once sought out by Tony Rabbit for a private consultation before the 1998 Federal Election to do deal when Tone was the Health Minister - the Catholic Church supports the Howard Government's bid for re-election, in return Rabbit would delay the introduction of Ru486, the "morning after pill" abortificant.

Therefore, he is a member of the Conservative, Tories who feel they rule this country.

[Serial Brain 9]

Utterly Redicuoous Brian.

Are you trying to tell us that no Labor or Greens voters are religious?

You are delusional.

[brian ross]

Utterly Redicuoous Brian.

Are you trying to tell us that no Labor or Greens voters are religious?

You are delusional.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Erecting strawman arguments? How unusual for you, Serial, hey?

Look, run along back to your little kiddies' playground where such tactics are tolerated. It is where you belong.

[Black Orchid]

First they protect Hollingworth who lied to protect pedos in the Anglican church and now Pell! Looks like the libs think it's ok to rape children as long as you have a bible in the building with you!

What's your comment on this one Red? Or this ...

Seems to be a lot of Peado sympathisers in here when it's one of their own

[cods]

WHAT NO REPLY...


NOT SURPRISING IS IT BLACK ORCHID...

he even brings his hatred for everything liberal to PA>>


and lets get CODS at all costs.....for daring to use the term lefties..

as if there is no such thing at ozpol...or PA...

I just hope he stays away from me thats all....

I am seriously shaken up by his personal attacks..

[Redneck]

First they protect Hollingworth who lied to protect pedos in the Anglican church and now Pell! Looks like the libs think it's ok to rape children as long as you have a bible in the building with you!

What's your comment on this one Red? Or this ...

Seems to be a lot of Peado sympathisers in here when it's one of their own

I am not sympathetic to pedos in any way!

In fact I had a nephew commit suicide who was an altar boy under a known pedo.

He died without any explanation as to why he committed suicide which has left a real question after the priest was charged!

I just have doubts on pells guilt without bringing left vs right into it!

[Redneck]

Millionaire Hot seat time in our household!

See you tomorrow!