People smugglers now use planes

[rhino]

Only they don't. These alleged asylum seekers who come here by planes and over stay their visas are not being brought here by people smugglers, that proposition is pretty stupid. I understand why certain thickos from the far left try to believe it though, anything to detract from the illegal entry of those who arrive by boat without any documentation at all. Why on earth would we open another channel of entry for illegals when we already have an issue of visa over stayers who arrive here on valid visas, then over stay and claim asylum?

[Neferti]

Only they don't. These alleged asylum seekers who come here by planes and over stay their visas are not being brought here by people smugglers, that proposition is pretty stupid. I understand why certain thickos from the far left try to believe it though, anything to detract from the illegal entry of those who arrive by boat without any documentation at all. Why on earth would we open another channel of entry for illegals when we already have an issue of visa over stayers who arrive here on valid visas, then over stay and claim asylum?

That is a leftard lie ... "most asylum seekers arrive by plane" bullshit .... that lot have to present a Passport to enter the country so that information is recorded and can be chased up.

Over stayers of visas are NOT asylum seekers who paid people smugglers a fortune to travel here by leaky boat and they have no identification, at all, so no record of who they are, then they wonder why it takes so long for them to be identified and given the pass to enter Australia or told to "go back home".

Some leftards are really, really dumb, especially those who claim to have a Masters Degree and/or Doctrate in all sorts of stuff.

[Redneck]

Only they don't. These alleged asylum seekers who come here by planes and over stay their visas are not being brought here by people smugglers, that proposition is pretty stupid. I understand why certain thickos from the far left try to believe it though, anything to detract from the illegal entry of those who arrive by boat without any documentation at all. Why on earth would we open another channel of entry for illegals when we already have an issue of visa over stayers who arrive here on valid visas, then over stay and claim asylum?

That is a leftard lie ... "most asylum seekers arrive by plane" bullshit .... that lot have to present a Passport to enter the country so that information is recorded and can be chased up.

Over stayers of visas are NOT asylum seekers who paid people smugglers a fortune to travel here by leaky boat and they have no identification, at all, so no record of who they are, then they wonder why it takes so long for them to be identified and given the pass to enter Australia or told to "go back home".

Some leftards are really, really dumb, especially those who claim to have a Masters Degree and/or Doctrate in all sorts of stuff.

Sorry dear you are the dumb one, how they arrive has no bearing on them claiming asylum afterwards!

[Black Orchid]

Only they don't. These alleged asylum seekers who come here by planes and over stay their visas are not being brought here by people smugglers, that proposition is pretty stupid. I understand why certain thickos from the far left try to believe it though, anything to detract from the illegal entry of those who arrive by boat without any documentation at all. Why on earth would we open another channel of entry for illegals when we already have an issue of visa over stayers who arrive here on valid visas, then over stay and claim asylum?

At least over stayers are easier to track. The boaties destroy their documents and then expect to be welcomed when we have no idea who/what they are.

It's a fallacy that those who arrive by plane and over stay their visas and then seek asylum "far outweigh" those country shoppers who come by boat. Perhaps they do now since the boats have been stopped but under Gillard the boaties represented almost 70%.

EDIT: Those coming by plane do not pay people smugglers. ONLY the boaties do.

[rhino]

Only they don't. These alleged asylum seekers who come here by planes and over stay their visas are not being brought here by people smugglers, that proposition is pretty stupid. I understand why certain thickos from the far left try to believe it though, anything to detract from the illegal entry of those who arrive by boat without any documentation at all. Why on earth would we open another channel of entry for illegals when we already have an issue of visa over stayers who arrive here on valid visas, then over stay and claim asylum?

That is a leftard lie ... "most asylum seekers arrive by plane" bullshit .... that lot have to present a Passport to enter the country so that information is recorded and can be chased up.

Over stayers of visas are NOT asylum seekers who paid people smugglers a fortune to travel here by leaky boat and they have no identification, at all, so no record of who they are, then they wonder why it takes so long for them to be identified and given the pass to enter Australia or told to "go back home".

Some leftards are really, really dumb, especially those who claim to have a Masters Degree and/or Doctrate in all sorts of stuff.

Sorry dear you are the dumb one, how they arrive has no bearing on them claiming asylum afterwards!

here is the point you are missing. Everyone who arrives by plane arrives on a valid visa. Whether or not they apply for asylum afterwards is largely irrelevant to the point of this debate. They arrive legally if they arrive via plane. Zero dispute on that. Everyone who arrives by boat arrives illegally. Zero dispute on that also. What the far left is proposing is that we open the doors to illegal arrivals, its not hard to see the flaw in that plan. There are probably 3 billion people on this planet who would cut off their left testicle to, live in Australia. Do you really want to open the doors to 3 billion people who only have to jump on a boat without any documents in order to claim asylum here? Really?

[Valkie]

But at least the ones coming in planes can be checked.

Maybe not fully, but true criminals are identified

The country shopping boat people a recall criminals
Murderers
Paedophile
Thieves
You name it, they are involved

Somalis, are all pirates
How else woukd they get enough money to pay people smugglers
Murdering, thieving disgusting pirates

Use them for target practice I say
It would do the hole world a favor

[IQS.RLOW]

Oh dear...

In the latest financial year, 9315 people from China and 9319 from Malaysia made non-boat arrival protection visa applications. Mr Rizvi notes that only 2 per cent of the Malaysian applications are eventually found to have merit.

Looks like the missive from the leftard office of propaganda isn't working too well.
98% of applications don't get to join you in the dole queue.
Youll never bring about the socialist utopia if you can't bring that result into line with the lefty boat migration scheme.
Better go ask for another load of bullshit and new instructions on how to spin another lefty fucking excuse for your fuck up.

Isn't it nice for the elitists to have such loyal little lefty monkeys gibbering away and doing what they are told.
Parroting the daily list of party approved excuses they can use to deflect from the truth.
You proudly shat on the carpet, so own it. Just because you didn't realise how overpowering your stench would be, you shouldn't pretend your arse isn't covered in the same shit and the stench you left behind.
Don't try to claim it's really a chocolate cake. Be proud of the one skill you all have in common.

Your scrambling shows even you are embarrassed by it because you know the influx is coming.
Chow down on your "cake" lefties. No one believes your lies.

[cods]

Only they don't. These alleged asylum seekers who come here by planes and over stay their visas are not being brought here by people smugglers, that proposition is pretty stupid. I understand why certain thickos from the far left try to believe it though, anything to detract from the illegal entry of those who arrive by boat without any documentation at all. Why on earth would we open another channel of entry for illegals when we already have an issue of visa over stayers who arrive here on valid visas, then over stay and claim asylum?

That is a leftard lie ... "most asylum seekers arrive by plane" bullshit .... that lot have to present a Passport to enter the country so that information is recorded and can be chased up.

Over stayers of visas are NOT asylum seekers who paid people smugglers a fortune to travel here by leaky boat and they have no identification, at all, so no record of who they are, then they wonder why it takes so long for them to be identified and given the pass to enter Australia or told to "go back home".

Some leftards are really, really dumb, especially those who claim to have a Masters Degree and/or Doctrate in all sorts of stuff.

[b]Sorry dear you are the dumb one, how they arrive has no bearing on them claiming asylum afterwards![/b]

can anyone believe red just said that...

so people smugglers now have stalls a airports with fake visas and passports at hand....maybe even boarding passes.

shows how brain washed lefties are..

[Redneck]

Only they don't. These alleged asylum seekers who come here by planes and over stay their visas are not being brought here by people smugglers, that proposition is pretty stupid. I understand why certain thickos from the far left try to believe it though, anything to detract from the illegal entry of those who arrive by boat without any documentation at all. Why on earth would we open another channel of entry for illegals when we already have an issue of visa over stayers who arrive here on valid visas, then over stay and claim asylum?

That is a leftard lie ... "most asylum seekers arrive by plane" bullshit .... that lot have to present a Passport to enter the country so that information is recorded and can be chased up.

Over stayers of visas are NOT asylum seekers who paid people smugglers a fortune to travel here by leaky boat and they have no identification, at all, so no record of who they are, then they wonder why it takes so long for them to be identified and given the pass to enter Australia or told to "go back home".

Some leftards are really, really dumb, especially those who claim to have a Masters Degree and/or Doctrate in all sorts of stuff.

[b]Sorry dear you are the dumb one, how they arrive has no bearing on them claiming asylum afterwards![/b]

can anyone believe red just said that...

so people smugglers now have stalls a airports with fake visas and passports at hand....maybe even boarding passes.

shows how brain washed lefties are..

Errrr dear codsy read a few of these numerous reports.

https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... +passports

[Redneck]

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/categ ... ms-report/

PETALING JAYA: Syndicates are using counterfeiting networks in the country to smuggle people into Australia, taking advantage of the visa agreement between the two nations, an Australian news outlet reported.

According to ABC News, Malaysian passport holders enjoy an easier passage to Australia compared to those from other countries and this has led to people smugglers helping nationals of other countries assume fake Malaysian identities so they can enter Australia easily.

About 10,500 people from Malaysia are in Australia unlawfully, ABC News notes, adding the sum was “significantly more than any other country”.

According to the report, citizens from Asean countries would travel to Malaysia without a visa where they would fraudulently obtain a Malaysian passport for as little as RM3,849.

Citizens from Asean countries including Vietnam, Indonesia and the Philippines come under far more scrutiny when applying to travel to Australia compared to those from Malaysia.

ABC News quoted former Australian Border Force (ABF) Commissioner Roman Quaedvlieg as saying that the combination of an easy passage into Malaysia and an easy way to obtain false identification makes Malaysia “the perfect staging ground for people smugglers”.

cont here.
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/categ ... ms-report/