Heigh-Ho! 2008 USA Election Thread

[AiA in Atlanta]

I had inserted the incorrect link for Oliver Stone's W The Movie

It is now corrected.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyJ2kda ... re=related

[JW Frogen]

That is what I have you for.

I have you when I need a good skull fuck.

[AiA in Atlanta]

That is what I have you for.

I have you when I need a good skull fuck.

Hmmmm .......... now fetch me my supper boy. I'm gettin' hungry.

[JW Frogen]

That is what I have you for.

I have you when I need a good skull fuck.

Hmmmm .......... now fetch me my supper boy. I'm gettin' hungry.

So you want to supersize it do you?

[AiA in Atlanta]

So you want to supersize it do you?

I do. 5000 calories is just enough to get me out of bed.

[AiA in Atlanta]

A recent cover story on McCain in the Economist reads, Bring Back the Real McCain." I haven't read it yet but it got me thinking about the maverick I admired that has morphed into a hustler who won't give America the healthcare it wants and will give the country wars it doesn't. Maybe I was young and foolish when I took McCain at his word -- maybe he was always a dangerous out-of-touch politician and he hasn't changed at all ...

[JW Frogen]

AIA don't believe in nuthen no more.

[Rainbow Moonlight]

Maybe he needs the support of his party AIA- and however much a maverick a Republican is still a Republican.

[Aussie]

According to the tools available to me here "Frogen Popping," you are not the real JW................so, goodnight to that Post.

I gave fair warning. (See Off Topic.)

[JW Frogen]

It was me.

To the point at hand.

How politicians have to run to win often is different than how they will govern, Bush ran against foreign military involvements, spreading democracy and nation building in 2000, Clinton never gave a clue he would deregulate financial markets pursue an aggressive Neo Liberal economic agenda abroad, through his World Bank and IMF appointments, or put payment and time limits on welfare.

Obama has even changed before he comes into the Whitehouse, running for two years as a transcendent politician above traditional campaigning and fighting and then when he began to loose poll ground directly after the Republican convention running traditional attack ads, one of which even his VP Biden says went too far.

Perhaps no reporter knows McCain better than David Brooks; here is a good article about the difference between McCain the campaigner and the likely President one will see.

Here are the money quotes;



“His mood darkened as the Iraq war deteriorated, but his accomplishments mounted. I don’t think any senator had as impressive a few years as McCain did during this span of time.
He lobbied relentlessly for a change of strategy in Iraq, holding off the tide that would have had us accept defeat and leave Iraq to its genocide. He negotiated a complicated immigration bill with Ted Kennedy. He helped organize the Gang of 14 and helped save the Senate from polarized Armageddon over judicial nominations.
He voted against opportunist bills like the pork-laden energy package and the prescription drug plan. He led a crusade against Jack Abramoff and the sleaze-meisters in his own party and exposed corrupt Pentagon contracts.
I could fill this column with his accomplishments during this period, and not even mention the insights. At a defense conference in Munich, I saw him diagnose and confront Russian hegemony. Week after week, I saw him dissent from G.O.P. colleagues as their party lost its way.”

And

“Nonetheless, when people try to tell me that the McCain on the campaign trail is the real McCain and the one who came before was fake, I just say, baloney. I saw him. A half-century of evidence is there.
If McCain is elected, he will retain his instinct for the hard challenge. With that Greatest Generation style of his, he will run the least partisan administration in recent times. He is not a sophisticated conceptual thinker, but he is a good judge of character. He is not an organized administrator, but he has become a practiced legislative craftsman. He is, above all — and this is completely impossible to convey in the midst of a campaign — a serious man prone to serious things.”