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Bobby
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Re: Potential building collapse

Post by Bobby » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:19 am

Valkie wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:09 am
Bobby wrote:
Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:38 pm
Valkie wrote:
Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:09 pm
I'll bet Indians built it with cheap Chinese Labour and cheap materials.
It must have been approved by the council.
And councils are all so honest and responsible, aren't they?

It shows that the money paid to councils for building inspectors
can be wasted as they are not qualified to do their jobs.
Just like the Grenfell tower - no one wants to pay:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... tower-fire

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Re: Potential building collapse

Post by cods » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:15 am

do these Inspectors have to do a Uni course or do they just come up through the ranks..?

would they know nogging from a grease trap??

how many of them on the take?...

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Re: Potential building collapse

Post by Bobby » Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:16 pm

cods wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:15 am
do these Inspectors have to do a Uni course or do they just come up through the ranks..?

would they know nogging from a grease trap??

how many of them on the take?...

I wonder about that Cods.

In the case of Grenfell -
the councils approved unsafe cladding,
The Govt. border force controls - customs - allowed unsafe cladding to enter the country.
The builders used unsafe cladding.
The engineers designed using unsafe cladding.
The insurers insured for malpractice.

But - none of them want to pay a penny in compensation either
to the victims of Grenfell or to any other poor people who have had that cladding
already installed on buildings.

We have the same problem with that cladding here in Australia -
everyone is ducking for cover and still the dangerous cladding sits on buildings.
How many people have to burn to death before anything is done about it?

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Re: Potential building collapse

Post by cods » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:22 pm

they are all involved..Bobs... all of them.. everyone dept they go through has to be PAID
the reason being is because they are meant to know more than the rest of us....

I have posted in the thread at ozpol.......you will see how pearshaped this project has always been.....

even the site its built on sounds suss...

and the ripple effect hasnt taken hold yet either.....I dont think I would like to be living next door either.

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Re: Potential building collapse

Post by Bobby » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:34 pm

cods wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:22 pm
they are all involved..Bobs... all of them.. everyone dept they go through has to be PAID
the reason being is because they are meant to know more than the rest of us....

I have posted in the thread at ozpol.......you will see how pearshaped this project has always been.....

even the site its built on sounds suss...

and the ripple effect hasnt taken hold yet either.....I dont think I would like to be living next door either.

It's the same as Grenfell,
everyone has stuffed up &
no one wants to take responsibility.
The cost could be astronomical for anyone found culpable.

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Re: Potential building collapse

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:56 pm

cods wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:22 pm
even the site its built on sounds suss...
That whole area is unstable and was a toxic dump site for hazardous chemicals and heavy metals for decades. There used to be a horrible chemical smell in the area and although I was rarely ever in that area I can still smell it now when I think about it.

When I was doing my degree we did a lot of field work and research out there and there were spots where slime was just bubbling in pools at the surface.

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Re: Potential building collapse

Post by cods » Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:31 pm

thats disgusting..... and we can safely say the local council is more than involved......greedy bastards..

i doubt the owner builders have much in the way of money to pay out compensation...apparently a lot of the appartments never sold..

the towers alongside will also be devalued so the ripple effect is going to make this a real nightmare for everyone

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Re: Potential building collapse

Post by Bobby » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:43 am

Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:56 pm
cods wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:22 pm
even the site its built on sounds suss...
That whole area is unstable and was a toxic dump site for hazardous chemicals and heavy metals for decades. There used to be a horrible chemical smell in the area and although I was rarely ever in that area I can still smell it now when I think about it.

When I was doing my degree we did a lot of field work and research out there and there were spots where slime was just bubbling in pools at the surface.

So they built on unstable polluted ground?

That's a disaster waiting to happen and a scandal.

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Re: Potential building collapse

Post by Black Orchid » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:34 pm

Experts have come out swinging over the “boom-burdened” building industry in major cities, saying Sydney’s cracking Opal Tower is part of a much wider problem.

But now the developer of the Olympic Park building has hit back, saying any suggestion the damage points to “a broader pattern in the industry” is completely wrong.

“The city’s ‘development boom’ has not led to cutting of corners,” Ecove director Bassam Aflak said in a statement this morning. “There has been no cutting of corners.”

Mr Aflak’s comments come after waterproofing consultant Ross Taylor wrote a controversial opinion piece for the Sydney Morning Herald.

Mr Taylor said while it was too early to tell who was at fault, a pattern had been emerging industry-wide.

He details problems with a high-rise down the road that had not made front page news because the structural failure was more gradual.

Mr Taylor said the balconies started sagging gradually after residents moved in — some as much as 180mm.

“As a result, cracks have opened up, water runs away from the outlets and pools on the balconies,” he said.


“Such stories are being lived throughout our apartment boom-burdened major cities by owners who suspected nothing when they bought. Culprits and scapegoats for these and other defects are sometimes found but root causes are rarely identified.”
https://www.news.com.au/finance/busines ... 756ecd95bf

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Re: Potential building collapse

Post by cods » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:16 pm

Mr Taylor said the balconies started sagging gradually after residents moved in — some as much as 180mm.

“As a result, cracks have opened up, water runs away from the outlets and pools on the balconies,” he said.

“Such stories are being lived throughout our apartment boom-burdened major cities by owners who suspected nothing when they bought. Culprits and scapegoats for these and other defects are sometimes found but root causes are rarely identified.”


omg....I would be terrified......no just about every tower within cooee of Opal will be impacted.......

what a horror..

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