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ScoMo New Terrorism Laws

Post by Black Orchid » Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:59 pm

Australians convicted of terrorism offences would be automatically stripped of their citizenship as long as the Home Affairs minister is “reasonably satisfied” they are citizens of another nation, under changes announced by Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Thursday.

The prime minister said he wanted the sweeping reforms passed by Christmas, in the final parliamentary sitting weeks of 2018, meaning opposition and crossbench MPs will only get two weeks to consider the laws.

The reforms would significantly lower the bar for deportation. Currently, Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton can only strip citizenship from those with a prison sentence of more than six years for a terror offence.

Under the changes, any conviction would be enough. And the minister would only need to be “reasonably satisfied” they were citizens of another country.


Revocation of citizenship has been reserved for dual-citizens to make sure Australia does not render a person stateless.

“The current wording of the law, we believe is unrealistic,” Mr Morrison said.

“Terrorists have violated everything about being what an Australian is all about. It's a crime against our country, not just other citizens,” he said.

“This is something that can't be tolerated, and for those who would engage in this sort of activity, and they have citizenship elsewhere, and we have reason to believe they do, they can go. That is the message.”

The government will also push for changes to how it deals with citizens who try to return to Australia after fighting with a terrorist organisation overseas.

It will seek a new regime of ‘temporary exclusion orders’, where it will be a crime for them to return unless the government explicitly orders it.

Once in Australia, the exclusion orders will allow the government to “impose controls” like an obligation to report regularly to police, obey curfews and not use certain technology.

Earlier, Mr Dutton said there were plans to deport deport terrorists who are entitled to citizenship in another country.
More at ... https://www.sbs.com.au/news/new-laws-wi ... itizenship

The "exclusion orders" seem really weak but at least it's a start.

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Re: ScoMo New Terrorism Laws

Post by sprintcyclist » Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:02 pm

Good fair ideas.
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Re: ScoMo New Terrorism Laws

Post by Neferti » Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:06 pm

Good idea but ... don't they have to get that through the Senate?

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Post by cods » Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:30 pm

Neferti~ wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:06 pm
Good idea but ... don't they have to get that through the Senate?



exactly!!! iuf it doesn t get passed

maybe the clowns that think its a good idea to vote for minority groups of 2 or 3 or even 1 rethink what they are doing...

everything this govt wants passsed has to be bargained for...and I do not think thats the reason we have a SENATE

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Re: ScoMo New Terrorism Laws

Post by Neferti » Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:47 pm

I have never, ever voted for an Independent. I have voted for the Liberal candidate most times or put in an "informal" vote (got my name marked off the Polls) because I didn't
"like" anyone I could vote for.

I would never, ever vote ALP or Greens as a matter of principle.

For years I wasn't even on the Polls (AEC screwed it up) .... turned up and "sorry, you aren't registered" ... Good, I said and walked out. :rofl

Having lived in Canberra since January 1981, I have only ever changed my address TWICE (first the rental, then I bought the place I have lived in since 1983). The AEC dropped me off their Roll (several times) and I was NOT about to fill out a stack of "forms" to vote, so I didn't. If you aren't on the Rolls, you don't get fined. :rofl IDJITS the lot of them.

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Re: ScoMo New Terrorism Laws

Post by brian ross » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:16 pm

When stripped of their citizenship where are they sent, I wonder?

I note that it won't please many here - afterall, it only applies to those extremists with dual citizenships. According to many here, it should apply to all Muslims, right? :roll:
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Re: ScoMo New Terrorism Laws

Post by Black Orchid » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:19 pm

Not all muslims Brian but definitely all those who live in separate communities and sport smelly scruffy beards and have their women wearing burkas because that is where all these cretins originate.

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Re: ScoMo New Terrorism Laws

Post by Rorschach » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:31 pm

brian ross wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:16 pm
When stripped of their citizenship where are they sent, I wonder?

I note that it won't please many here - afterall, it only applies to those extremists with dual citizenships. According to many here, it should apply to all Muslims, right? :roll:
oh dear there ya go again bwian telling everyone what they think and being a complete dope yet again.

If they are dual citizens bwian, they can go back HOME....
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Re: ScoMo New Terrorism Laws

Post by brian ross » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:34 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:19 pm
Not all muslims Brian but definitely all those who live in separate communities and sport smelly scruffy beards and have their women wearing burkas because that is where all these cretins originate.
And of course, all of them are Terrorists or Terrorist supporters, right, Black Orchid?

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Re: ScoMo New Terrorism Laws

Post by Rorschach » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:44 pm

Because YOU bwian are mentally deluded.

You need to broaden your Muslim friendship circle. 400 people under surveilance, you can bet they have family and friends with similar beliefs. 150+ known "combatants" who went to Syria to fight with ISIS for the Caliphate? How mant support and believe in the Caliphate bwian?. How many are in gaol bwian? Tsk, tsk, tsk, tut, tut, tut... how many Imans need to be deported? How many support Hiz b ut Tahrir?

keep counting bwian :du :du :du :du :du
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