Nauru Re-Settlements in NZ

[Black Orchid]

Sending refugees from Nauru to New Zealand would be a "giant magnet" for people smugglers, Defence Industry Minister Steven Ciobo says.

The government intends to evacuate all asylum-seeker children from Nauru by the end of this year.

But Mr Ciobo says he "absolutely" has a problem with Labor's plan to accept New Zealand's offer to resettle some of the refugee families.

"They think it's more humanitarian, they think it's more humane. The only thing that Labor's soft approach is going to do is restart the trade of people smugglers in our region," he told Sky News on Sunday.

"That's going to be a giant magnet for those that want to come to our country ahead of those that are sitting, unfortunately, in UNHCR camps trying to do the right thing.

"I think that would be a great injustice to those who actually are deserving to come to countries like Australia, the United States or other countries, but who can't afford to pay a people smuggler."

The government has indicated it will only accept New Zealand's offer on the condition refugees sent there from offshore detention are banned from entering Australia.

Labor supports the lifetime ban, but Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton is still reluctant to seal the deal, fearing it could become a perverse incentive for people smugglers.

https://www.news.com.au/national/breaki ... 840869cc81

[Valkie]

Well

They won't go to America, because they are expected to work.

Muzzos don't work

They steal, Rob, fraud welfare, commit murder etc etc

A whole cult of thieves, murderers and frauds.

[Rorschach]

All refugee activists should be put in gaol....

Reporting the full story of asylum-seekers on Nauru
12:00AM November 16, 2018
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There are two starkly different Naurus — the supposed hellhole of sermons preached by the implacable opponents of offshore processing and the laid-back island republic that contented locals more or less happily share with refugees and asylum-seekers. The reality of life on Nauru is one of light and shade, as our Perth-based journalist Paige Taylor reports today. And that is what any open-minded person should expect.

Of course Nauru is not where refugees and asylum-seekers want to be, a fact that has to be weighed when hearing their accounts directly or mediated by activists. Offshore centres must offer decent and humane conditions, but denying unlawful boat arrivals entry to our mainland is crucial to breaking the business model of people-smugglers and discouraging their clients. Otherwise, wealth and a willingness to deal with criminal syndicates determine the makeup of our humanitarian program, rather than the orderly resettlement of people waiting in refugee camps where they have been vetted by the UN refugee agency UNHCR.

With the limited options available, it’s not surprising that some people taken against their will to Nauru come to a less jaundiced view of it across time. It’s true some still suffer from a crippling uncertainty (although that is a state of affairs they helped bring about). Others discover there are less agreeable places to be. Witness the group of refugees who have given the Nauruan government notice of their interest in returning from the hardscrabble lives in the US, where they were sent under the Obama-Turnbull deal. Still others have not allowed their predicament to deny themselves pleasure or diversion. One young man flew to Fiji to celebrate his 21st birthday. (It is interesting that no other countries in the region, including the supposed refugee haven of New Zealand, have agreed to Nauru’s request that they offer tourist visas to refugees and asylum-seekers on the island.) If they are to be confined to Nauru, at least they are safe from the fear of persecution complained of in their home countries (although they were no less safe once their commercial jet flights landed in Jakarta, where the only danger was that of dealing with people-smugglers).

Those drowned at sea never had a chance to form an opinion about life on Nauru, where police commissioner Corey Caleb says his officers are kept busy with the often spurious claims of people who have “got the wrong advice” from asylum-seeker advocates. What he won’t say is that those who pay people-smugglers and often destroy their identity papers may not need much assistance to concoct claims. Nauru’s President, Baron Waqa, also targets the asylum advocacy lobby, which he says gives people false hope of permanent resettlement in Australia.

It has been difficult to get informed and balanced coverage of the state of things on remote Nauru. Some media outlets and their activist sources complain of the secrecy that prevents them documenting the full horror of what they call a hellhole. It doesn’t occur to them that their attitude is comparable to Donald Trump’s dismissal of “shithole” countries in Africa. Unsurprisingly, Nauruans resent hysterical misrepresentation of their island home. Taylor’s coverage today matters because she comes to it with no agenda. Having covered the asylum-seeker issue for years, and witnessed its tragedies, she respects its messy and difficult nature.

[Black Orchid]

Nauru is such a terrible place that apparently some of the ones resettled in the US want to go back there

Dozens of refugees who left Nauru to resettle in the United States want to come back to the Pacific island nation, Nauru's President claims.

President Baron Waqa says 40 of the 300 people sent to the US have contacted the government asking to return because life there isn't "easy".

But life in Nauru is cheap, warm and relaxed, Mr Waqa told The Australian in a report published on Friday.

"The US -- it's a difficult place to live, a lot of competition for work and jobs," he said.

"They call America the land of the free and all that but (there are) a lot of catches and they soon find out that it's not that easy."

His comments come after Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton last month said refugees resettled in the US have been complaining back to friends in Nauru about the conditions in their new country.

"We are seeing ... reports of people that have gone from Nauru to the United States saying it is harder than they thought because they need to find work in the United States," he told parliament.

"They are saying to people on Nauru now you would be better to go to New Zealand or Australia because they have a better welfare system."

The federal government has maintained nobody processed through Nauru will ever call Australia home, even if they are found to be genuine refugees.

But it has confirmed asylum seeker children will leave Nauru by the end of this year.

There are 22 asylum seeker children still on the island, refugee advocates after two families with a total of five children were evacuated in the past few days.

https://www.news.com.au/national/breaki ... 4bb493cbce

[brian ross]

The Nauruan President would say those things, of course. Afterall, he's from Nauru.

[sprintcyclist]

Nauru is such a terrible place that apparently some of the ones resettled in the US want to go back there

Dozens of refugees who left Nauru to resettle in the United States want to come back to the Pacific island nation, Nauru's President claims.

President Baron Waqa says 40 of the 300 people sent to the US have contacted the government asking to return because life there isn't "easy".

But life in Nauru is cheap, warm and relaxed, Mr Waqa told The Australian in a report published on Friday.

"The US -- it's a difficult place to live, a lot of competition for work and jobs," he said.

"They call America the land of the free and all that but (there are) a lot of catches and they soon find out that it's not that easy."

His comments come after Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton last month said refugees resettled in the US have been complaining back to friends in Nauru about the conditions in their new country.

"We are seeing ... reports of people that have gone from Nauru to the United States saying it is harder than they thought because they need to find work in the United States," he told parliament.

"They are saying to people on Nauru now you would be better to go to New Zealand or Australia because they have a better welfare system."

The federal government has maintained nobody processed through Nauru will ever call Australia home, even if they are found to be genuine refugees.

But it has confirmed asylum seeker children will leave Nauru by the end of this year.

There are 22 asylum seeker children still on the island, refugee advocates after two families with a total of five children were evacuated in the past few days.

https://www.news.com.au/national/breaki ... 4bb493cbce

deport ALL of these free loaders

[Black Orchid]

These ones already have been shuffled off. The point is we don't want them back weighing down our welfare system anymore than it already is.

[BigP]

These ones already have been shuffled off. The point is we don't want them back weighing down our welfare system anymore than it already is.

Well dont send the asshole here !

[Rorschach]

The Nauruan President would say those things, of course. Afterall, he's from Nauru.

LOL

Shooting messengers are you bwian.... nothing to back your sarcasm up with eh... gee how unusual.