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Post by BigP » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:38 pm

Rorschach wrote:
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puhlease be realistic on a topic eh....

Speaking of which back on topic Do you think all Africans are retarded? Hmmmm.
Personally no, But I do think they have issues regarding tolerance to other cultures and tribal groups

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Post by Rorschach » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:00 pm

Really.... do you think that is a specifically African thing do you?
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Post by rhino » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:55 pm

Africans in general do have very low IQs, just a fact.

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Post by Rorschach » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:57 pm

Ah that is incorrect as far as genetics is concerned. A myth etc, etc, etc... on so many levels.
For starters don't get me started on IQ tests.
Did you know that the more tests you do the higher your IQ goes up?
IQ is not a good standard to define intelligence with.
There are so many things that affect such test results, and so many other things that can be used to gauge intelligence.
You just ignored all the anecdotal proof I posted eh? Well done Sunshine.

BTW a so-called "low IQ" does not mean one is retarded. Let alone unintelligent. Even the guy who invented IQ tests staed that they only test for certain things and could be misinterpreted and misused when judging true intelligence.
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Post by Rorschach » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:09 am

Academic achievement of children in the UK by ethnic group.

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https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101977722
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Post by rhino » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:00 am

Rorschach wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:57 pm
Ah that is incorrect as far as genetics is concerned. A myth etc, etc, etc... on so many levels.
For starters don't get me started on IQ tests.
Did you know that the more tests you do the higher your IQ goes up?
IQ is not a good standard to define intelligence with.
There are so many things that affect such test results, and so many other things that can be used to gauge intelligence.
You just ignored all the anecdotal proof I posted eh? Well done Sunshine.

BTW a so-called "low IQ" does not mean one is retarded. Let alone unintelligent. Even the guy who invented IQ tests staed that they only test for certain things and could be misinterpreted and misused when judging true intelligence.
Sure originally IQ tests were only an indicator of ability in the english language, however in modern day culturally unbiased IQ tests Africans score at the bottom of the heap. Many African countries have an average IQ of 75 or so, that actually is considered retarded. East Asians score the highest. Im not sure what you mean by "true " intelligence. White people invented just about anything worthwhile on this planet, that is patently true enough.

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Post by Rorschach » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:35 am

rhino wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:00 am
Rorschach wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:57 pm
Ah that is incorrect as far as genetics is concerned. A myth etc, etc, etc... on so many levels.
For starters don't get me started on IQ tests.
Did you know that the more tests you do the higher your IQ goes up?
IQ is not a good standard to define intelligence with.
There are so many things that affect such test results, and so many other things that can be used to gauge intelligence.
You just ignored all the anecdotal proof I posted eh? Well done Sunshine.

BTW a so-called "low IQ" does not mean one is retarded. Let alone unintelligent. Even the guy who invented IQ tests staed that they only test for certain things and could be misinterpreted and misused when judging true intelligence.
Sure originally IQ tests were only an indicator of ability in the english language, however in modern day culturally unbiased IQ tests Africans score at the bottom of the heap. Many African countries have an average IQ of 75 or so, that actually is considered retarded. East Asians score the highest. Im not sure what you mean by "true " intelligence. White people invented just about anything worthwhile on this planet, that is patently true enough.
Sorry you are not listening.

Do try to keep up.

As for inventions do please go back and do more research and perhaps read the info with the photos I posted.

Science states that genetics are not a factor in intelligence of humans and that given equal opportunity education etc, there are no differences in the spread of intelligence did you not understand the graph I posted? hmmm.

One last time for you IQ is not a true measure of intelligence.... :du :du :du :du :du
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Post by Rorschach » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:59 am

One more time for the obstinate in denial, who refuse to read any evidence apart from that supplied by eugenicists.
Conclusions from the Evidence

There is no proof that whites either have, or have not, inherited more intelligence than blacks. What is clear, however, is that environment has a big effect on intellectual development. In Israel, for example, deprived Oriental Jewish children, who were placed in communes called kibbutzim and brought up collectively, showed higher IQ’s than children of the same background reared by their parents. Also, American Indian children reared in white foster homes obtain significantly higher IQ’s than their brothers and sisters on the Reservation. But does the same hold true for blacks?

A recent study of black children reared in white homes revealed that it does. The study, which included over a hundred white families who adopted black children at an early age and reared them in their homes, showed that the IQ’s of these blacks compared favorably with those of whites. “Overall,” write the investigators, “our study impressed us with the strength of environmental factors. . . . If a different environment can cause the IQ scores of black children to shift from a norm of 90 or 95 to 110, then the views advanced by the genetic determinists cannot account for the current IQ gap between blacks and whites.”

The weight of scientific opinion, therefore, seems to be that the lower average IQ scores of blacks can be explained largely, if not entirely, by environmental factors. In the book The Biological and Social Meaning of Race, Frederick Osborn of the Population Council of New York sums up: “Only one conclusion is possible from the studies which have been made to date. Differences in test intelligence between the major races are no greater than can be accounted for by the known differences in their environments. On this there is general scientific agreement.”

It is of interest that, as opportunities have opened to them, more and more blacks are succeeding in fields of business, education, medicine, and so forth.

Yet, it must be acknowledged, the question of the relative intelligence of the races cannot be positively determined. The evidence is now inconclusive, open to various interpretations, as one writer noted: “A hundred different conclusions can, and have been, drawn from the same body of evidence. The conclusion one arrives at depends as much on emotion as reason.”

So, then, why bring up the matter of IQ scores in an attempt to prove that blacks are less intelligent than whites? Steven Rose, professor of biology at the Open University, England, explains why some people do: “The question of the genetic basis of racial or class differences in IQ . . . achieves meaning only in a racist or classist society attempting to justify its discriminatory practices ideologically.”

As a result of the storm of controversy over the alleged lower inherent intelligence of blacks, the National Academy of Sciences declared: “There is no scientific basis for a statement that there are or that there are not substantial hereditary differences in intelligence between Negro and white populations. In the absence of some now-unforeseen way of equalizing all aspects of the environment, answers to this question can hardly be more than reasonable guesses.”

One thing is certain, however, and that is that there is no sound basis for viewing people of another race as inferior. Without making any distinctions as to race, the Bible wholesomely advises us to have “lowliness of mind considering that the others are superior to you.”​—Phil. 2:3.

But still there are persistent views that hinder persons from applying this fine Scriptural counsel. A prominent one is that persons of other races than one’s own have an objectionable body odor.

[Blurb on page 13]

“If you see pygmies in their natural environment making bridges out of fibre and living life successfully you might ask what you mean by intelligence.”

[Blurb on page 15]

“During World War I blacks from certain parts of the northern U.S. scored higher on IQ tests than whites from certain parts of the South.”

[Blurb on page 16]

“Differences in test intelligence between the major races are no greater than can be accounted for by the known differences in their environments.”

[Picture on page 14]

The environment in which children grow up affects their intellectual development
This summary is representative of the current evidence and thought in the scientific community re intelligence in humans. You can find any number of papers and articles that back this belief up if you actually want to. Just as you can find any number of articles stating that IQ is not a good measure of intelligence.

Et voila...
"[Some] assert than an individual's intelligence is a fixed quantity which cannot be increased. We must protest and react against this brutal pessimism."

- Alfred Binet, inventor of the original IQ test, 1909
The reality is that students performing at the top of the class in 4th grade tend to be the same students performing at the top of the class in 12th grade, due to many factors that tend to remain stable in students' lives: family, lifestyle, resources, etc.

Being branded with a low IQ at a young age, in other words, is like being born poor. Due to family circumstances and the mechanisms of society, most people born poor will remain poor throughout their lives. But that doesn't mean anyone is *innately* poor or destined to be poor; there is always potential for any poor person to become rich.

The happy reality is that IQ scores:
A) measure developed skills, not native intelligence.
B) can change dramatically.
C) don't say anything about a person's intellectual limits.

Race and intelligence in United States of America

The 1996 Task Force investigation on Intelligence sponsored by the American Psychological Association concluded that there are significant variations in IQ across races. The problem of determining the causes underlying this variation relates to the question of the contributions of "nature and nurture" to IQ. Psychologists such as Alan S. Kaufman and Nathan Brody and statisticians such as Bernie Devlin argue that there are insufficient data to conclude that this is because of genetic influences. A review article published in 2012 by leading scholars on human intelligence concluded, after reviewing the prior research literature, that group differences in IQ are best understood as environmental in origin.
What is IQ?

IQ (short for "intelligence quotient") is a score derived from a collection of tests which rank academic achievement within a particular age group.


What do IQ tests measure?

IQ tests measure current academic abilities -- not any sort of fixed, innate intelligence. More specifically, the best-known IQ battery, "Stanford-Binet 5," measures Fluid Reasoning, Knowledge, Quantitative Reasoning, Visual-Spatial Processing, and Working Memory. Collectively, these skills are known as "symbolic logic." Among other things, IQ tests do not measure creativity; they do not measure "practical intelligence" (otherwise known as "street smarts");[ii] and they do not measure what some psychologists call "emotional intelligence."

Can your IQ score change over time?

Absolutely. "IQ scores," explains Cornell University's Stephen Ceci, "can change quite dramatically as a result of changes in family environment (Clarke, 1976; Svendsen, 1982), work environment (Kohn and Schooler, 1978), historical environment (Flynn, 1987), styles of parenting (Baumrind, 1967; Dornbusch, 1987), and, most especially, shifts in level of schooling."[v]

So IQ scores don't imply any sort of fixed or innate intelligence?

Quite the contrary. We know that the abilities IQ measures are skills, and we know that people can earn these skills. "Intelligence," Robert Sternberg has declared, "represents a set of competencies in development." There is plenty of evidence, for example, that schooling raises overall academic intelligence.[vii] There is also evidence that most human beings are not reaching their cognitive or academic potential.[viii] Better schools and higher standards can raise the level of learning for nearly all students.


Don't genes limit our intelligence? Isn't intelligence "heritable?"

No, and no. Very sloppy science and journalism has led us to believe that what scientists call "heritability" (derived from twin studies) is the same thing as what we ordinary folk call "heredity."
In fact, they are not even remotely the same thing. Genes certainly do have an impact on intelligence, and everyone has their own theoretical limits, but every indication is that most of us don't come close to our true intellectual potential.

Devised in the early 20th Century, the IQ test was intended as a way to screen for childhood ‘mental retardation’. Quickly seized upon by all and sunder as a test to measure the total of a person’s mental abilities, its French creator would be turning in his grave: Test-deviser Alfred Binet was clear – IQ testing was to serve to identify children needing extra help at school and not to be a “general device for ranking … according to mental worth.” Alas, the worst of human nature couldn’t resist the allure of this highly effective screening tool…


https://www.edubloxtutor.com/history-iq-test/

Over and over and over again... and stuff I have already posted... I wont keep posting the proof that backs me up... or quotes from authorities that back me up... because frankly its a waste of my time since some people obviously don't read it or choose to deny it.
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