China's Huawei Banned from Aussie 5G

[Rorschach]

No bwian that is not true in all cases at all.

Your modem and operating system need to be compatible for starters and Telstra just to name 1, definitely always do the modem thing unless you already have one of theirs that is still compatible

[brian ross]

They don't always give you a choice. In fact some refuse to give you support unless you use the modem they supply.

Their loss, Black Orchid. Nothing stopping you from going to a different ISP, which does allow you to use your own Router.

EDIT: Not only that, if you use their VOIP for your phone and don't use their modem they can refuse to give you the settings (or whatever they are) for the VOIP setup.

VOIP? Yuck. Not a good idea IMO. Cheap and nasty.

[Neferti]

I used to have a Belkin. However, when I got the NBN, I got "supplied" with a modem that has the "phone" thingie ... the Belkin didn't. No big deal!

[Neferti]

They don't always give you a choice. In fact some refuse to give you support unless you use the modem they supply.

Their loss, Black Orchid. Nothing stopping you from going to a different ISP, which does allow you to use your own Router.

EDIT: Not only that, if you use their VOIP for your phone and don't use their modem they can refuse to give you the settings (or whatever they are) for the VOIP setup.

VOIP? Yuck. Not a good idea IMO. Cheap and nasty.

Do you live on another planet?

When you get the NBN you have no choice ... the Telstra landline is G.O.N.E. So, if you want a "phone" (rather than, or as well as, a mobile phone), you need a modem/router that has those capabilities.

[Black Orchid]

They don't always give you a choice. In fact some refuse to give you support unless you use the modem they supply.

Their loss, Black Orchid. Nothing stopping you from going to a different ISP, which does allow you to use your own Router.

EDIT: Not only that, if you use their VOIP for your phone and don't use their modem they can refuse to give you the settings (or whatever they are) for the VOIP setup.

VOIP? Yuck. Not a good idea IMO. Cheap and nasty.

Why should I get a different ISP Brian? My setup works fine thank you and I was merely pointing out that your assertion that everyone has a choice is not true.

If, and when, I am dissatisfied I will do something about it. Right now everything works fine, including the phone, and now I am not paying Telstra $35 per month just for the privilege of having a phone before I even pick it up to dial. I have free calls and no monthly line rental fees.

[Rorschach]

Yes Nef and NBN supplies the modem.
Only think is you need a power point near the phone for the modem, too bad if it was hanging off the wall and not neat a power outlet.

[Neferti]

Yes Nef and NBN supplies the modem.
Only think is you need a power point near the phone for the modem, too bad if it was hanging off the wall and not neat a power outlet.

My phone is plugged directly into the Modem. The Modem is plugged into the power point (under the desk) and the computer, etc are all plugged into the Modem too. Flashing lights everywhere.

[brian ross]

They don't always give you a choice. In fact some refuse to give you support unless you use the modem they supply.

Their loss, Black Orchid. Nothing stopping you from going to a different ISP, which does allow you to use your own Router.

EDIT: Not only that, if you use their VOIP for your phone and don't use their modem they can refuse to give you the settings (or whatever they are) for the VOIP setup.

VOIP? Yuck. Not a good idea IMO. Cheap and nasty.

Why should I get a different ISP Brian? My setup works fine thank you and I was merely pointing out that your assertion that everyone has a choice is not true.

If, and when, I am dissatisfied I will do something about it. Right now everything works fine, including the phone, and now I am not paying Telstra $35 per month just for the privilege of having a phone before I even pick it up to dial. I have free calls and no monthly line rental fees.

The choice is yours, and others, Black Orchid. You pay for what you get. I have not had a problem I haven't been able to sort out with a computer or a router or a modem or a hub. However, I understand some people have difficulties with such matters, so the ISP makes them all use a router or modem which they know works. Just keep doing what they tell you and you'll be fine. You stick with your biscuit cutter solution and I'll stick with my free-form one, OK?

[Black Orchid]

Wonderful idea Brian. Now that we've sorted that out. Whatever 'that' was

[Black Orchid]

The arrest in Canada of Meng Wanzhou, a top executive at China's Huawei Technologies Co Ltd and daughter of the founder and CEO, jolted the global business community last week and raised fears that a truce in the US-China trade war could come to a swift end.

Meng's arrest came at the behest of US authorities, and court documents say she faces accusations of misleading multinational banks about Huawei's control of a company operating in Iran, putting the banks at risk of violating US sanctions.

A Canadian judge granted bail to 46-year-old Meng on Wednesday as both Meng and the Chinese company remain in the international spotlight.

US intelligence agencies allege Huawei is linked to China's government and that its equipment could contain "backdoors" for use by government spies. No evidence has been produced publicly and the firm has repeatedly denied the claims.

But suspicions persist. Concern now centres on the deployment of fifth-generation (5G) mobile networks, where Huawei is at the cutting edge.

A new law in China requiring any domestic firm to assist the government when asked has also stoked concern.

The US government has taken a series of steps to block the firm from US markets, including banning government purchases of Huawei gear and denying government help to any carrier that uses Huawei equipment. Top carriers Verizon Communications and AT&T pulled out of deals to distribute Huawei smartphones earlier this year.

A court in the Canadian city of Vancouver has heard that Meng faces US fraud charges for allegedly lying to banks about the use of a covert subsidiary to sell to Iran in breach of sanctions.

US officials allege Huawei was trying to use the banks to move money out of Iran

Huawei's smaller rival ZTE Corp pleaded guilty last year to conspiring to evade embargoes by selling US equipment to Iran

Earlier this year, the US Commerce Department said ZTE violated the settlement and barred it from buying any US components - a move that all but halted many ZTE operations.

A new settlement was reached and the ban lifted at the behest of US President Donald Trump, a perceived concession to Chinese President Xi Jinping that surprised and angered others in the US government.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/what-is-chi ... troversial

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