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March for men

Post by sprintcyclist » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:53 pm

A PRO-GUN, anti-feminist, half-American Donald Trump supporter is asking for money to help fund a “March for Men” in Melbourne next month.

Sydney Watson, who describes herself as a “conservative political commentator”, is planning on bringing hundreds of men and women together at Melbourne’s Federation Square on August 25 to march against what she sees as “an assault on men collectively”.

The former University of Melbourne student is critical of the response from politicians and the media after the death of Eurydice Dixon, who was killed while walking home from a night out.

In particular, she takes issue with the narrative that has emerged declaring men need to change their behaviour, not women.

“As many of you know, over the last number of weeks, it has felt like there has been an assault on men collectively,” she said in a video promoting the event.

“I know that this has upset a lot of men and women alike and a lot of people are very distressed that they don’t feel as though they can support men’s rights, masculinity and men in general without being judged.

“I want Australians to rally together for masculinity, for men’s rights and just to demonstrate that we know that men matter too.

“I want to make it abundantly clear that the purpose of this rally is not to hate on women, diminish women’s rights or to make any negative statements about women.”

She said the fight for women’s rights is harming the fight for men’s rights.

“Society is unlikely to be functional if we continue to put down one entire gender in order to prop up another.”


Ms Watson has started a GoFundMe page to raise money for the event. On Monday, more than $800 had been raised towards a goal of $5000.

The event page states: “From the schoolyard to the office, Australians have been repeatedly reminded how undesirable it is to be a man. After weeks of attacks from the media, from politicians and from interest groups — enough is definitely enough!”

Ms Watson’s brand of politics is divisive. She has previously published videos about gun control, feminism and white privilege.

A recent video was titled: “Hey women, men are not responsible for your safety.” She talked about Ms Dixon’s death and why she felt it was wrong to lump collective blame on men.

“It’s stupid,” she said. “This whole argument (that men need to change their behaviour, not women) is stupid. My safety is my responsibility. I don’t want to put any accountability on anyone else. Sure, we can teach men not to rape or, alternatively, maybe we can give women the right to self-defence.”

Ms Watson shared a Facebook post by Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews in June in which he made a point of singling out men.

“Women don’t need to change their behaviour. Men do,” the Premier wrote.

Ms Watson said she was “absolutely seething”.

“This post is sanctimonious and patronising. I, for one, am absolutely sick and tired of men collectively being demonised at every turn and at every opportunity.

“I’m getting so sick to death of this narrative that all men are violent. Because it is a horrific and unjust lie.”

Her comments were met with stinging criticism from many on her own channels.

“Why is it bad that I tell my son not to brutalise and violate another person,” one woman wrote.

“I don’t hate men but I still want them held accountable for their actions.”

Another wrote that Ms Watson had “missed the point”.


Sydney Watson is behind the March for Men in Melbourne in August.
“Babe. Wow, where do I start? I’m not a feminazi but I am a feminist and believe in equality for all human beings. I think your (sic) missing the point of ‘teach men not to rape’.

“For thousands of years to date, gender roles and responsibilities have been placed upon us from a very early age depending on our sex. And up until the last maybe 20 years women were objectified and were literally a male’s property if married.

“I think what they are trying to say is that there should be education from an early age to break the cycle of men seeing women as objects, because there are still some people and cultures who still teach and preach this to their children.”
One woman wrote simply: “She’s a right wing idiot.”

Another video on Ms Watson’s YouTube channel is titled: “Dear feminists, here’s why you are hypocrites.”


“A woman rapes a man and nobody wants to call a spade a spade and call it rape,” she said.

“I’d really like to know why it is that we downplay female-perpetrated violence.

“Is it because it doesn’t fit into the male perpetrator/female victim paradigm? Or is it because society feels a need to shield women from criticism?”

She published another video about the politics of race, declaring: “White privilege does not exist.”

“Nothing irritates me more than being told that I have white privilege,” she said.

“Now if you’re a white person in the 21st century, you have probably had the term ‘white privilege’ applied to you at one point or another. It may have been somebody trying to put you in your place, invalidate an experience that you may have had or really just tell you that ‘you’re too pasty to be important’.”

Ms Watson’s public accounts promote “restoring” journalism to “its natural state” and “kicking political correctness to the kerb”.


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Re: March for men

Post by FLEKTARN » Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:29 am

I think Donald Trump is my new hero now.
The one that says the least can often have a very different perspective and hold the answer. The least qualified person may hold the most wisdom. When you don’t have knowledge or experience blocking your perspective, you can see problems and solutions.

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Re: March for men

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:16 am

Terrible things are done to women and terrible things are also done to men. Feminist types insist on being equal but how is it equal to consider women's issues more deserving than men's?

They are both deserving and should both be given equal measure.

As for Daniel Andrews. The people of Victoria must be insane.

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Re: March for men

Post by BigP » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:00 pm

""and terrible things are also done to men.""

Rite said, when was the last time a woman had ta worry bout rectile dysfunction

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Re: March for men

Post by Valkie » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:12 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:16 am
Terrible things are done to women and terrible things are also done to men. Feminist types insist on being equal but how is it equal to consider women's issues more deserving than men's?

They are both deserving and should both be given equal measure.

As for Daniel Andrews. The people of Victoria must be insane.
My point exactly
This continual war of man vs woman is stupidity

The two can live together quite amicably without problems if both just accepted the other and worked with each other's strengths.

Up until this ridiculous feminist movement,women were not generally unhappy.
In fact most selected their roles as homemakers and women

Men were happy as breadwinner and protectors.

But in this new world, roles have been completely screwed
Men don't know where they stand
If the stand up at all they are crucified

And women, many who would happily live as a wife and mother
Are forced into the dog eat dog world of corporate greed and fighting

In all honesty, the women I work with are nowhere near as happy as my wife.
They hope around all day complaint about this and that, snapping back at any comment.
Just this morning I said good morning to the women in the office.
What I got back was "WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT IT"

Where as my wife was out of bed, making breakfast and singing to herself.
She will clean, wash, go out and have dinner for me and my kids when I get home.
She smiles most of the time and seems to be quite happy.

You tell me
Which woukd you rather be.
A happy wife and mother, fulfilled life and working occasionally for charity.

Or a woman working in a man's world for shite money because you have to.
Can't see the kids, they are in day care, half your income going to said day care.
Going home exhausted, to crying kids looking for attention, with nothing better to look forward to.

Feminism has screwed your lives ladies.
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A world free from the plague of Islam
A world that has never known the horrors of the cult of death.
My hope is that in time, Islam will be nothing but a bad dream

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Re: March for men

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:33 pm

Having said what I said, I did not mean that women belong in the kitchen, raising the kids and cleaning up after the family. If that suits some that's fine but it doesn't suit all and shouldn't have to. Women do have brains.

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Re: March for men

Post by Valkie » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:51 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:33 pm
Having said what I said, I did not mean that women belong in the kitchen, raising the kids and cleaning up after the family. If that suits some that's fine but it doesn't suit all and shouldn't have to. Women do have brains.
Correct
But with that choice come specific trade offs

You can't have kids and a career, unless you either have a house husband or a very well paid job.

You can't devote you time to your children as much either
My eldest has tried this and I will tell you, my grandchild had to grow up pretty damn fast. Had she not been as intelligent and understanding, it woukd have been very hard.
It probably didn't hurt that for the first 5 or 6 years, my wife looked after her.

I'm not saying women are any less intelligent, capable or motivated than men.
I'm just saying, from my perspective, based on the women I have daily contact with
That they seem to be happier as homemakers.

I don't know where I read it, but I remember reading something about more women going bald.
Bald from stress.
Now stress is a killer, many women used to outlive men, but those numbers are shrinking as more and more women take on stressful jobs.
Is it really worth it?
Does a career mean that much to a woman that she will willingly forego bringing up her children, living longer, not having to buy a wig and being happier?

I can tell you, I have wasted many many years of my life at work, study and striving to advance myself.
But in the happiness stakes, I'll bet my wife is happier.
I would love to stay home and watch my children grow.
I saw very little of my first two.
Working 6 days a week, study, two jobs with only Sunday afternoon free to make acquaintance with my kids. Those first 5 years it seemed I rarely saw them, because I didn't.
It got better as I advanced, but it wasn't until my third that I actually got to know my youngest. What a joy it was.
Had I known, I would have spent far more time with my kids.

It's all about life choices.
But these days, the grubberment has manipulated people into the position that requires both partners to work full time. Kids grow in in creche environments, little love, just existing. No wonder they rebel
It's only going to get worse I fear.
I have a dream
A world free from the plague of Islam
A world that has never known the horrors of the cult of death.
My hope is that in time, Islam will be nothing but a bad dream

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Re: March for men

Post by Neferti » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:57 pm

My Mother was a strong, independent woman. She had a plaque on the wall which stated something like ... "The Opinion of the Head of the House is not necessarily the same as that of The Management". :mrgreen: Even my Father helped around the house (as did we kids), I saw Dad taking clothes off the line and using the Hoover, he used to wash the dishes every evening and we kids took turns to dry up. He couldn't boil water though. I never, ever saw them have an argument, despite Mum abusing him from time to time. I remember asking Dad why he didn't "say something" and his reply was "that would only make matters worse" ... he would walk away and let Mum rave on. :mrgreen:

When I was married, my husband helped around the house too, not because I asked but because he wanted to "help" ... some of the time I could have done without the "help", but why say anything?

Some men seem to think that their wives are "Mother" - there to pick up and "do stuff" for them and if asked to help, they say that they want to help "just tell me what to do" .... right, if you have to stand and give instructions on what needs doing, you are wasting your time.

I much prefer being by myself. :bgrin

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Re: March for men

Post by Valkie » Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:28 pm

Neferti~ wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:57 pm
My Mother was a strong, independent woman. She had a plaque on the wall which stated something like ... "The Opinion of the Head of the House is not necessarily the same as that of The Management". :mrgreen: Even my Father helped around the house (as did we kids), I saw Dad taking clothes off the line and using the Hoover, he used to wash the dishes every evening and we kids took turns to dry up. He couldn't boil water though. I never, ever saw them have an argument, despite Mum abusing him from time to time. I remember asking Dad why he didn't "say something" and his reply was "that would only make matters worse" ... he would walk away and let Mum rave on. :mrgreen:

When I was married, my husband helped around the house too, not because I asked but because he wanted to "help" ... some of the time I could have done without the "help", but why say anything?

Some men seem to think that their wives are "Mother" - there to pick up and "do stuff" for them and if asked to help, they say that they want to help "just tell me what to do" .... right, if you have to stand and give instructions on what needs doing, you are wasting your time.

I much prefer being by myself. :bgrin
My wife and I are a team, a cooperative.
We don't do things because we have to, but because we want to.
I prefer building, repairing and working outside.
She prefers painting (apparently I have no talent for colour selection of splashing the stuff on the walls) she prefers doing the washing and cleaning ( again apparently good enough ain't good enough)
And all those little domestic things I apparently am incapable of doing.

When I build, bathrooms, kitchens, repairs even remodelling dad's home, my wife assisted me in many ways from labourer to consultant.
I could never have fixed up dad's home without her help.

But when it comes to buying stuff, we discuss and agree before we buy.
And as I found out, I couldn't justify both a $30,000.00 motorcycle and a $50,000.00 boat, it had to be one or the other.

Without my dream of a missus, my life would not be anywhere as good as it has been or is
She fulfils me.
And in no way do I ever, could I ever, look down on her or think for a second that she was anything less than the perfect, beautiful, wonderful woman I have spent the last 40 years with, and hope to spend many more with.

Men and women are not better than each other
Neither is superior to the other
We both have our strengths and weaknesses
But a truly matched couple are far fear more that the sum of the individuals and far far more than either could ever be.
I have a dream
A world free from the plague of Islam
A world that has never known the horrors of the cult of death.
My hope is that in time, Islam will be nothing but a bad dream

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Re: March for men

Post by BigP » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:32 pm

""Some men seem to think that their wives are "Mother ,there to pick up and "do stuff" """

My god that is truely fucken creepy,, Because the only thing I ever insisted my wife do for me was to suck my dick lol

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