Honduran Caravan fools are carrying signs "ASYLUM is a RIGHT"

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Re: Honduran Caravan fools are carrying signs "ASYLUM is a RIGHT"

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:39 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:21 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:18 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:14 pm
BigP wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:28 am
""Well, Asylum is a right, according to the UN Convention on Refugees.""

Brian, as we know from past experience UN conventions are merely a guide,
Care to point out where a signatory is allowed to deny the application for Aslyum in the UN Convention on Refugees?
Care to point out where 'refugees' should actually be considered refugees when they choose to travel right through one country from top to toe (which is a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention) because they prefer to go somewhere else?

That is NOT a refugee. It's an ECONOMIC MIGRANT.
Care to point out where in the UN Convention on Refugees, people are not allowed to flee to where they would feel the safest, Black Orchid?
Care to point out in the UN Convention on Refugees where it says that you can just pick and choose where you want to go?

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Re: Honduran Caravan fools are carrying signs "ASYLUM is a RIGHT"

Post by brian ross » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:42 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:39 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:21 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:18 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:14 pm
BigP wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:28 am
""Well, Asylum is a right, according to the UN Convention on Refugees.""

Brian, as we know from past experience UN conventions are merely a guide,
Care to point out where a signatory is allowed to deny the application for Aslyum in the UN Convention on Refugees?
Care to point out where 'refugees' should actually be considered refugees when they choose to travel right through one country from top to toe (which is a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention) because they prefer to go somewhere else?

That is NOT a refugee. It's an ECONOMIC MIGRANT.
Care to point out where in the UN Convention on Refugees, people are not allowed to flee to where they would feel the safest, Black Orchid?
Care to point out in the UN Convention on Refugees where it says that you can just pick and choose where you want to go?
In legal documents, Black Orchid, unless something is denied, then you are allowed to do it. Not a difficult concept to grasp, I would have thought. Now, care, as I have asked already, to point out where being what you have derisively called "economic migrations" are not allowed in the UN Convention on Refugees?
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Re: Honduran Caravan fools are carrying signs "ASYLUM is a RIGHT"

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:46 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:42 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:39 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:21 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:18 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:14 pm


Care to point out where a signatory is allowed to deny the application for Aslyum in the UN Convention on Refugees?
Care to point out where 'refugees' should actually be considered refugees when they choose to travel right through one country from top to toe (which is a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention) because they prefer to go somewhere else?

That is NOT a refugee. It's an ECONOMIC MIGRANT.
Care to point out where in the UN Convention on Refugees, people are not allowed to flee to where they would feel the safest, Black Orchid?
Care to point out in the UN Convention on Refugees where it says that you can just pick and choose where you want to go?
In legal documents, Black Orchid, unless something is denied, then you are allowed to do it. Not a difficult concept to grasp, I would have thought. Now, care, as I have asked already, to point out where being what you have derisively called "economic migrations" are not allowed in the UN Convention on Refugees?
Brian if you can't figure it out yourself by now you never will.

At least you have now admitted that you support mass migration of economic migrants whose aim is to overwhelm secular western culture.

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Re: Honduran Caravan fools are carrying signs "ASYLUM is a RIGHT"

Post by brian ross » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:53 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:46 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:42 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:39 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:21 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:18 pm


Care to point out where 'refugees' should actually be considered refugees when they choose to travel right through one country from top to toe (which is a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention) because they prefer to go somewhere else?

That is NOT a refugee. It's an ECONOMIC MIGRANT.
Care to point out where in the UN Convention on Refugees, people are not allowed to flee to where they would feel the safest, Black Orchid?
Care to point out in the UN Convention on Refugees where it says that you can just pick and choose where you want to go?
In legal documents, Black Orchid, unless something is denied, then you are allowed to do it. Not a difficult concept to grasp, I would have thought. Now, care, as I have asked already, to point out where being what you have derisively called "economic migrations" are not allowed in the UN Convention on Refugees?
Brian if you can't figure it out yourself by now you never will.

At least you have now admitted that you support mass migration of economic migrants whose aim is to overwhelm secular western culture.
Really? And where have I stated that, Black Orchid? Care to quote my own words back to me?

Using your rationale, I could say quite sensibly, that you support human sacrifice and cannibalism. I know you don't. Well I hope you don't. However, as far as I am aware, you've never actually said you don't. Therefore, according to your thinking, you do. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Lookie here, folks! We have a person who supports cannibalism and human sacrifice!

Stop being silly, Black Orchid. You're more intelligent than that. The UN Convention on Refugees states simply that an individual has a right to claim Asylum from any signatory country. Doesn't matter how many signatories they travel through to reach that country. They can claim Asylum anywhere they like.
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Re: Honduran Caravan fools are carrying signs "ASYLUM is a RIGHT"

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:55 pm

No they cannot. Just ask Trump. :lol:

Brian, seriously, if I were in charge I would confiscate the homes of people like yourself and open them up to the economic migrants that you so openly welcome.

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Post by brian ross » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:15 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:55 pm
No they cannot. Just ask Trump. :lol:
Trump is an idiot.
Brian, seriously, if I were in charge I would confiscate the homes of people like yourself and open them up to the economic migrants that you so openly welcome.
Why, Black Orchid?

As long as it is done with compensation - as required under the Australian Constitution - sure, you can attempt to.

Do you hate people who are right and prove you are wrong?

Just change your opinion and move on. Much easier.
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Re: Honduran Caravan fools are carrying signs "ASYLUM is a RIGHT"

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:16 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:15 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:55 pm
No they cannot. Just ask Trump. :lol:
Trump is an idiot.
Brian, seriously, if I were in charge I would confiscate the homes of people like yourself and open them up to the economic migrants that you so openly welcome.
Why, Black Orchid?

As long as it is done with compensation - as required under the Australian Constitution - sure, you can attempt to.

Do you hate people who are right and prove you are wrong?

Just change your opinion and move on. Much easier.
The only thing that has been proven is that you are in favour of economic migrants. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be standing near you when a civil war breaks out.

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Re: Honduran Caravan fools are carrying signs "ASYLUM is a RIGHT"

Post by brian ross » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:29 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:16 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:15 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:55 pm
No they cannot. Just ask Trump. :lol:
Trump is an idiot.
Brian, seriously, if I were in charge I would confiscate the homes of people like yourself and open them up to the economic migrants that you so openly welcome.
Why, Black Orchid?

As long as it is done with compensation - as required under the Australian Constitution - sure, you can attempt to.

Do you hate people who are right and prove you are wrong?

Just change your opinion and move on. Much easier.
The only thing that has been proven is that you are in favour of economic migrants. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be standing near you when a civil war breaks out.
Why would a civil war break out anywhere near me?

Economic migrants have always existed, Black Orchid. All migrants could be termed "economic migrants". Asylum Seekers OTOH are seeking asylum because they fear for their lives. Tell me, do you know of the Dunera Boys? Would you call them Asylum Seekers or Economic Refugees?
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Post by Black Orchid » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:10 pm

Whatever you say Brian :thumb

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Re: Honduran Caravan fools are carrying signs "ASYLUM is a RIGHT"

Post by BigP » Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:04 pm

''Care to point out where a signatory is allowed to deny the application for Aslyum in the UN Convention on Refugees?''

America has a UN veto, They dont like a resolution, they veto it,,Exactly why Israel never sweats on it

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