Honduran Caravan fools are carrying signs "ASYLUM is a RIGHT"

[Black Orchid]

I would like an answer to that too Cods and was going to ask the same question.

Would you jeopardise the safety of your family and just let them in Brian? 1000 people pushing their way right to your door. Would you really just fling open the door and risk the lives of your wife and children?

The other concerning thing is that these people are waving flags. If they are so persecuted in their own country why are they proudly waving flags? It might make sense to some but makes no sense to me. Staged much?

[cods]

also remember BO he would be responsible for paying their way entirely until he found the work...

one thousand people isnt a lot when you think how many a taxpayer supports..

I am sure we will hear he would put his hand up and accept them for what they are...move over brian we love bleeding hearts who put their money where their mouth is..

[cods]

not forgetting they are actually suing Trump....

one way to make him change his mind I guess.

[brian ross]

if they throw rocks or other missiles brian.... I agree trump has a loose mouth.. he just speaks ad lib which isnt good for a Pres....

His comments have already resulted in deaths in Nigeria where the Army used them to justify their opening fire on protestors.

I doubt any one will get shot but tell me brian what would you do if you were standing on your front porch staring down about 500 or so persons you have never met trying to get into your house????????... would you stand back and let them in to do as they will???.... make that a 1000......looking at those pictures I wonder what the =hell goes through the minds of the soldiers whos duty it is to stop them.....

I'd ask them to respect my property and to leave. If they refused to, I doubt I could stop them, single-handedly, Cods. Could you, single-handedly stop them? I doubt it. Trump's problem is, as you've noted, he is "loose-lipped". He speaks what he believes should be true, despite there being many limitations on what el Presidente's powers are. He cannot use troops to "close the border" because of the Posse Comitatus Act. He cannot use troops as law enforcement officers. He cannot pardon himself. Nixon learnt all about those limitations and more in 1975.

While it may annoy many here, the application for Asylum is a right. It was granted when the US and other countries, including Australia, signed the UN Convention on Refugees. There is literally no way a person can be prevented from applying for Asylum under US or Australian law. Both Governments can use various tricks, they can use various instructions, they can create various "migration zones" and so on but if a person lands on their soil and says, "I want to apply for Asylum," they have to grant them that right. They might not be considered Refugees but that is further down the track.

[cods]

if they throw rocks or other missiles brian.... I agree trump has a loose mouth.. he just speaks ad lib which isnt good for a Pres....

His comments have already resulted in deaths in Nigeria where the Army used them to justify their opening fire on protestors.

I doubt any one will get shot but tell me brian what would you do if you were standing on your front porch staring down about 500 or so persons you have never met trying to get into your house????????... would you stand back and let them in to do as they will???.... make that a 1000......looking at those pictures I wonder what the =hell goes through the minds of the soldiers whos duty it is to stop them.....

I'd ask them to respect my property and to leave. If they refused to, I doubt I could stop them, single-handedly, Cods. Could you, single-handedly stop them? I doubt it. Trump's problem is, as you've noted, he is "loose-lipped". He speaks what he believes should be true, despite there being many limitations on what el Presidente's powers are. He cannot use troops to "close the border" because of the Posse Comitatus Act. He cannot use troops as law enforcement officers. He cannot pardon himself. Nixon learnt all about those limitations and more in 1975.

While it may annoy many here, the application for Asylum is a right. It was granted when the US and other countries, including Australia, signed the UN Convention on Refugees. There is literally no way a person can be prevented from applying for Asylum under US or Australian law. Both Governments can use various tricks, they can use various instructions, they can create various "migration zones" and so on but if a person lands on their soil and says, "I want to apply for Asylum," they have to grant them that right. They might not be considered Refugees but that is further down the track.

no pet you couldnt stop them ALONE... but would you allow them in and feed and cloth them like you expect the Americans to do...????

dont answer with another question please I am in favor of border control....

you are the one saying its open season. all year round...

I am asking if a whole gang of foreigners landed on your doorstep what would you do???>.....YOU CLAIM YOU WOULD LET THEM IN...

do you seriously think they will leave if they poo on your doorstep???? and you tell them to get out?........
[oh! can anyone here those legals rattling their money boxes]


no pet you would then have to get immigration to decide if they are refugees or economic settlers..... you would have to get in the system pet.it takes years to remove someone you know...think Villawood..

in the mean time....YOU will all the while be putting up with them feeding clothing paying medical bills.. maybe even educating them if they want to be educated that is..

AFTER ALL PET YOU LET THEM IN.. it now becomes your responsibility

this is what Trump and the Americans are facing......once they are on your soil... ??????????....... thats why we turned the boats back....we dont want someone elses responsibilities.... there is nothing wrong with these people... and the UN should be sending them a message that the UN will help them to stay in their own country..........


but the UN is never expected to do that is it...... its so much easier to pass the buck...

[FLEKTARN]

The USA has the highest immigration intake in the world which gives them even MORE right to decide who they accept and HOW they accept them.

They are not being denied that right, BO. What is happening is that Trump is over-inflating the supposed dangers that these caravan(s) present to US society. He has unfairly characterised them as being full of "Terrorists", "Criminals", "Rapists", etc. It is all part of his mid-term election strategy. The Caravans are made up of desperate people who want a better, peaceful, secure lives. The US offers that, which suggests that they are in reality escaping hell holes which the US has been largely responsible for the creation of.

You're a fucking moron, O'Connor. These "desperate people" will not find better, peaceful, secure lives because nobody will give them jobs. Nobody wants homeless illegals with unknown backgrounds, dressed like shits, not knowing English in his workplace! My personal safety and my colleagues' is at at a higher priority than for some gypsy from abroad. Plus why would I give a job to some nigger when I can give this job to local citizens that worked their asses off to study and educate themselves?

[Black Orchid]

Mexico’s Interior Minister Alfonso Navarrete told reporters on Sunday evening that federal police did not have any weapons, even to fire plastic bullets.

He said that some of the migrants had guns while others had Molotov cocktails, and this information had been passed on to other Central American governments.

Guatemala’s government said in a statement that it regrets that the migrants didn’t take the opportunity of dialogue and instead threw stones and glass bottles at police.

[Black Orchid]

Four caravans now and the Texans are getting edgy.

Some 2,000 migrants traveling in two groups departed El Salvador's capital Wednesday morning on their way to the US by way of Mexico, making it the fourth caravan to embark on the 1,000-journey in the last two weeks.

This latest group hit the road even as President Donald Trump promised to send thousands of troops - possibly as many as up to 7,000 by some estimates - to secure the southern border and increased pressure on Mexico to halt the flow of people.

Police in San Salvador estimated the two groups leaving the capital numbered around 1,000 each. One cohort left around dawn, followed by a second later in the morning.

Some waved Salvadoran flags as motorists honked in support and shouted, 'God bless you.'

The first caravan numbering 4,000 mostly Honduran national, which has been on the road for the past two weeks, planned to rest at least a day or longer in the southern city of Juchitan beginning Wednesday, hoping to organize mass transport northward after days of hard walking in scorching temperatures that have left them about 900 miles from the nearest US border crossing in McAllen, Texas.

'We are waiting to see if they are going to help us out with buses, to continue the trip,' said Omar Lopez, 27.

Organizers say the buses, if they do materialize, would take the migrants to Mexico City for meetings with legislators, not to the still-distant US border, though some would probably continue to the border after reaching the capital.

It's unclear if Mexican authorities would agree to provide the vehicles, in light of White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders' statement today praising the country's leadership for stopping the migrants from getting rides.

'Mexico has stepped up in an unprecedented way,' Sanders told Fox News. 'They have helped stop a lot of the transportation means of these individuals in these caravans, forcing them walking. They have helped us in new ways to slow this down, to break this up and keep it from moving as aggressively toward the United States.'

A second, smaller group, of 1,000 or so migrants who forced their way into Mexico on Monday was trailing some 250 miles back, stopping for the night in the city of Tapachula.

A third group of migrants from El Salvador legally crossed the international border bridge between Guatemala and Mexico on Tuesday and headed to Tapachula.

At a Tuesday evening assembly, participants in the first, largest caravan named a committee to negotiate with Mexican authorities over a possible 'bridge plan' that could carry them the 700 miles separating Juchitan from Mexico's capital by bus.

There was no indication from officials whether the request to transport the perhaps 4,000 people remaining in the group would be granted.

Meanwhile, the US Border Patrol this week warned Texas landowners along the southern border to get ready for the arrival of 'armed civilians' wishing to assist the National Guardsmen and Border Patrol agents in stopping the caravans from entering the US.

Three activists told The Associated Press that they were going to the border or organizing others, and groups on Facebook have posted dire warnings about the caravan. One said it was "imperative that we have boots on the ground.' Another wrote: 'WAR! SECURE THE BORDER NOW!'

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[brian ross]

if they throw rocks or other missiles brian.... I agree trump has a loose mouth.. he just speaks ad lib which isnt good for a Pres....

His comments have already resulted in deaths in Nigeria where the Army used them to justify their opening fire on protestors.

I doubt any one will get shot but tell me brian what would you do if you were standing on your front porch staring down about 500 or so persons you have never met trying to get into your house????????... would you stand back and let them in to do as they will???.... make that a 1000......looking at those pictures I wonder what the =hell goes through the minds of the soldiers whos duty it is to stop them.....

I'd ask them to respect my property and to leave. If they refused to, I doubt I could stop them, single-handedly, Cods. Could you, single-handedly stop them? I doubt it. Trump's problem is, as you've noted, he is "loose-lipped". He speaks what he believes should be true, despite there being many limitations on what el Presidente's powers are. He cannot use troops to "close the border" because of the Posse Comitatus Act. He cannot use troops as law enforcement officers. He cannot pardon himself. Nixon learnt all about those limitations and more in 1975.

While it may annoy many here, the application for Asylum is a right. It was granted when the US and other countries, including Australia, signed the UN Convention on Refugees. There is literally no way a person can be prevented from applying for Asylum under US or Australian law. Both Governments can use various tricks, they can use various instructions, they can create various "migration zones" and so on but if a person lands on their soil and says, "I want to apply for Asylum," they have to grant them that right. They might not be considered Refugees but that is further down the track.

no pet you couldnt stop them ALONE... but would you allow them in and feed and cloth them like you expect the Americans to do...????

I expect them to work for their dinner, Cods. As do most Americans. What makes you think, in the land of the free, they would be given money/lodging/clothing/food for free?

dont answer with another question please I am in favor of border control....

What makes you assume I am not? I believe in border controls - to prevent smuggling, to prevent human trafficking, to prevent Terrorism, etc. I am not in favour barring people from requesting Asylum - which is after all what you and Trump are proposing, now isn't it?

you are the one saying its open season. all year round...

I am? Where have I suggested as such, Cods? Care to quote back where I made that claim? Mmmm? Or is evidence a difficult concept for you to think about?

I am asking if a whole gang of foreigners landed on your doorstep what would you do???>.....YOU CLAIM YOU WOULD LET THEM IN...

No, I said I would ask them to desist, Cods. A very different thing to what you claim I have done. Single-handedly against a crowd? No, I wouldn't nor could you actually stop them if they were determined to come in. I am unsure what you think I should do? Remember, you set up the scenario, not me.

[Valkie]

Asking them to respect your property and family

Yeah, that works don't it?

Pack rape because the girls were not muzzo

Criminal activities are a mainstay to this cult

They have no morals, they hate you and your people, you culture, any religion other than the devil worshiping cult they participate in.

Yeah
Please respect me, my home and my family
Sure bwyannnnnn, that's gonna work........not