Proof that the ALP/Greens and their support groups etc live in a world of self justification, devoid of reality, where they all spout spurious views or the world according to LW Progressive Postmodernist ideas. This is probably the sort of world that creates people like bwian. Progs cannot tolerate dissent so they all hang out together, in groups where they continue to delude each other and get comfort from that self-delusion.Ramsay enemies becoming curiouser and curiouser
Janet Albrechtsen
Like Alice, I am curious. Especially about ideas. I flick between CNN and Fox, Aunty and Sky. I listen to ABC radio and Alan Jones. I read The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal, sometimes even The Guardian. I like Mahler and Taylor Swift. I recently watched Noam Chomsky’s very clever and compelling Requiem for the American Dream. Check your complacency, I say. It can strengthen your arguments or persuade you to different views. So, on Monday night I went to my alma mater, the University of Sydney, to listen to a group of academics deliver the case against a course on Western civilisation funded by the Ramsay Centre.
Alma mater is Latin for “generous mother”. It means something that gives you nourishment. Except there was no cerebral nourishment. Just a sense of vertigo that Alice must have felt venturing down the rabbit hole. I had entered a netherworld where a small minority of emotive academics made anti-intellectual assertions, postured endlessly about politics, obsessed about white people and were uninterested in offering their student audience alternative views.
How do I know that? Because there were no different views. As I entered a lecture room a polite man insisted I needed two bits of paper. One was a run sheet, the second an A4 paper that read “RAMSAY NOT WELCOME AT USYD”. I asked him if there was a different sheet for people with different views. No, he said, asking me why I had come. To listen, I said. For two hours I listened, first to nine academics and one student lined up at a long table on stage. A young woman of indigenous heritage kicked off the evening by telling us we were meeting on stolen land, the sandstone blocks bound together with mortar made from the remains of indigenous bodies, surrounded by a university that had made money from indigenous artefacts. The scene was set: white people are bad. This was an evening of self-flagellation that I did not think possible outside some religious cult or a dungeon for S&M.
Ten people concerned about intellectual diversity were all on the same A4 page. If you arrived with an open mind, the professors of anthropology and English, the PhD students, and lecturers from departments of history, Arabic languages, Asian cultures and Anglophone and related literature were intent on closing it down.
The academics claim a Ramsay-funded degree in Western civilisation would breach academic freedom. How so? None of these academics is forced to study the course or to teach it. No money or other resources will be taken from their departments to fund the new degree. These academics can continue to teach what they teach.
The Ramsay-funded course offers about 40 scholarships of $30,000 to smart young students. It is voluntary. Ramsay is offering a three-year degree where students study 30 of the great texts of Western civilisation, from Homer and Chaucer to Marx and Virginia Woolf. “It’s a quantum leap from what we currently do,” says philosophy professor Peter Anstey, who has been advising the university about the new degree. A quantum leap is needed. Here is a snapshot of the academic rigour from this activist group of academics on Monday night.
Professor of anthropology Linda Connor objected because “the Ramsay Centre is riding on the coat-tails of successful incursions into US universities by conservative, libertarian and free-market philanthropic foundations”. Connor, vice-president of the university’s branch of the National Tertiary Education Union — the same union that wrecked plans for students at the Australian National University to be offered a Ramsay-funded course on Western civilisation — has an idea of intellectual diversity that does not extend to a degree different to what is offered today.
John Frow, a professor of English literature, mentioned Pauline Hanson’s motion deploring the rise of anti-white racism and attacks on Western civilisation. “That motion makes it clear that the notion of Western civilisation has become code for a racially imagined culture under attack from racially imagined others.”
Via video from Cambridge, academic Priyamvada Gopal pointed to the deaths of Jews at a US synagogue as evidence of “a time of ascendant and dangerous cultural supremacism”.
“We have a moral obligation not to allow ourselves to become Trojan horses for political agendas of any kind, least of all supremacist ones,” she said. The Ramsay proposal is “part of the worldwide rise of aggressive racial and cultural supremacism”.
Alluding to former prime minister John Howard, who chairs the Ramsay Centre board, PhD candidate Evelyn Araluen Corr said: “It does not shock me whatsoever that this university is happy to take money from a man who sent the military into the NT, to set up an institution that professes the values of Western civilisation but does not at any point actually examine the damage that that civilisation has done.” She said it was a joke, disgusting and disgraceful.
Shima Shahbazi, another PhD candidate, started by criticising Western aggression in Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran. Then she claimed that “the idea of opening up a centre for Western civilisation or the Western tradition, or whatever, involves violence on so many levels”.
“The Ramsay Centre for Western Civilisation is structurally, institutionally, morally and epistemically violent to other knowledges,” she said.
During an address rich with wild assertions and political conspiracies, Alana Lentin, an associate professor in cultural and social analysis at Western Sydney University, spoke about a “wilful, knowing white ignorance that is leading us down the road to fascism”. The Ramsay Centre would compound this ignorance.
Student Representative Council president Imogen Grant objected because “elite private schools will be funnelling rich, white private school students into a degree that will reignite the idea of empire”.
David Brophy from the university’s history department claimed that just entertaining Ramsay had seen unprecedented efforts to constrain discussion of racism.
Curious. Here was a room of people speaking freely for hours about racism. I saw no thought police from the VC’s office. Just two hours of emotive claims from “gobsmacked” academics delivering a concentrated dose of everything that is wrong with identity politics. White: bad. Western: evil. No learning, no debate, but lots of unshakeable victimhood with words and ideas treated as a form of violence. The only censorship is their attempt to rip academic choice from students.
I walked out into the fresh evening air, bemused by academics who, inadvertently, had just made the case for why Sydney University needs a reasoned course about Western civilisation.
And just when I thought I had safely escaped one crazy rabbit hole, I flicked on the TV and ABC’s Q&A flung me back down into another, this time with talk of Shakespeare’s whitesplaining. Mercifully, a small red button on the remote control saved me from more people turning up their nose at Western culture.
Labor's lies...
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Rorschach wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:39 amI'm sorry is there something wrong with your eyes as well as your brain?
Just how many times do you need to be told something before it registers in that dull clump between your ears...
the primary aim was just to remove him as leader, regardless of who succeeded him, in the belief that under Turnbull the Coalition would lose catastrophically and the nature of the Liberal Party would be changed forever.
I have never wavered on the reasons he was removed. There are more and I've also mentioned them too....
ask him why did they remove krudd then gillard.....poor old kruddy thought he had won in 2013.... .. but they still didnt want him...
WHY LTARD WHY?
did the POLLS have anything to do with it ? wont it be interesting to watch the POLLS if shortarse gets in...
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If he gets in
He's getting in alright
He's getting in alright
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What to you expect Shortarse to do for YOU? Do you reckon he will increase the Dole so that YOU have more money to spend?
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Apparently are going to make everybody sexless and send all the children to safe schools sex indoctrination clinics...
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My concern is ........ The govt makes no money.
When the govt says ' we will give $ xyx to this 'disadvantaged' group because they are so sad .............' well that is all fine and dandy.
But it is our taxes they are giving to someone else.
Govts seem to think the more they spend the better.
Everyone else in the real world thinks the opposite.
Right Wing is the Natural Progression.
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Only the idiots think that The Government has a bucket full of money for whatever ... the same idiots complain about the GST and other taxes. Where do they think the money comes from that The Government spends?sprintcyclist wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:11 pmMy concern is ........ The govt makes no money.
When the govt says ' we will give $ xyx to this 'disadvantaged' group because they are so sad .............' well that is all fine and dandy.
But it is our taxes they are giving to someone else.
Govts seem to think the more they spend the better.
Everyone else in the real world thinks the opposite.
The young are too busy worrying about "whatever" and having a good time. The middle age (40+) are either married with kids and have a mortgage, or wondering why the don't.
The older person is wondering why they have been working for so long and reckon that they are due for the Age Pension but if they own a couple of properties, they don't get it.
Elderly (over 65) Aussies have already worked out this stuff. Plus they planned their finances and never eat dogs food or go without electric. Some even have the NBN.
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Good to see you're on the record for not opposing new taxsNeferti~ wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:06 pmOnly the idiots think that The Government has a bucket full of money for whatever ... the same idiots complain about the GST and other taxes. Where do they think the money comes from that The Government spends?sprintcyclist wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:11 pmMy concern is ........ The govt makes no money.
When the govt says ' we will give $ xyx to this 'disadvantaged' group because they are so sad .............' well that is all fine and dandy.
But it is our taxes they are giving to someone else.
Govts seem to think the more they spend the better.
Everyone else in the real world thinks the opposite.
The young are too busy worrying about "whatever" and having a good time. The middle age (40+) are either married with kids and have a mortgage, or wondering why the don't.
The older person is wondering why they have been working for so long and reckon that they are due for the Age Pension but if they own a couple of properties, they don't get it.
Elderly (over 65) Aussies have already worked out this stuff. Plus they planned their finances and never eat dogs food or go without electric. Some even have the NBN.
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Typical of you to be pro-ALP no matter how bad their policies are.
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70 Nauru refugees reject US resettling
Paige Taylor
WA Bureau Chief
More than 70 asylum-seekers in detention centres on Nauru have knocked back an offer to resettle in the US when they heard they would have to work and would not receive welfare.
In a report in The Daily Telegraph today, Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said the refusal by a sizeable number of people on Nauru to resettle in the US indicated they were not genuine refugees. Rather, they were more likely to be economic refugees and not truly desperate for a safe home.
“I would say millions of refugees have gone to the US and may have died trying because it’s the land of opportunity and one of the greatest countries in the world,” Mr Dutton said. “People who have refused to take a place in the US aren’t genuine (refugees).”
He also warned that resettling refugees from Nauru in New Zealand would risk restarting the smuggling trade to Australia, where new refugees would end up in Nauru regardless of whether they had children.
“Now is exactly the wrong time to be sending people to New Zealand because we don’t have Labor’s agreement on the lifetime ban, and it’s doubtful they would support it. Secondly, there’s too much activity and speculation around, which means NZ would be a pull factor,” he said.
Scott Morrison has said he would support sending asylum-seekers to New Zealand if there was a lifetime ban on them returning to Australia.
But even if the lifetime ban were in place, Mr Dutton said it could encourage people-smugglers to restart the boats, which would take the Australian government back to square one and could lead to more children ending up in detention on Nauru.
Revelations about the refusals to resettle in the US emerged as an advocacy group that has secured transfers to Australia for about 120 asylum-seeker parents and children said the families being flown from Nauru to Australia were being sent to cities that had psychiatric beds for children.
The Australian revealed yesterday that the Coalition government plans to move the remaining 40 asylum-seeker children still on Nauru to Australia by the end of the year, a policy later confirmed by the Prime Minister on radio 2GB in Sydney.
Some 244 children have been relocated in the past few years and 46 asylum-seeker children have been born on Nauru since the offshore regime began in 2012.
George Newhouse of the National Justice Project said yesterday none of the adults from families already transferred from Nauru as a result of his advocacy had been told they were the subject of adverse security findings.
“Security risk has never been raised as an issue in relation to any of our clients that have been transferred to Australia,” Professor Newhouse said.
None, as far as he was aware, had received offers to be resettled in the US.
Professor Newhouse said all children transferred from Nauru were going “straight to hospital”.
He said most but not all of the families transferred as a result of work by the National Justice Project had been found to be genuine refugees.
“The vast majority of the families we act for have been found to be refugees,” he said.
“Most of our clients have not had a response and only a few of them have been rejected … the ones who have been rejected appear to be of a nationality that the US President has ordered to be excluded from the US.”
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