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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:07 am
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:38 pm
Being born with a penis does not automatically make you a male.
Yes it does. Do you need a lesson in biology?
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:38 pm
Hermaphrodites were once considered a myth, Now they are recognised as real - people born with both types of genitals. What do you call them?
Hermaphrodites have always been real Brian but we are not talking about hermaphrodites/intersex. We are talking about transgenders. There is a difference even you should be able to grasp.
Biology 101. Hermaphrodites are BORN with both genitals or part thereof. Transgenders are people whose 'gender identity' is different from the gender they were born with.
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:38 pm
They are what they believe they are. Why is everybody so intent on trying to shoe-horn people into one gender or the other? It seems like a pointless exercise to me. People can and are what they want to be, BO. Any effort to force them to be something they don't want to be will end up with a lot of very upset and ultimately broken people. Is that something you revel in?
It's simple biology Brian and no I do not revel in mental illness nor do I think it should be pandered too.
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cods
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by cods » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:14 am
I think you need more than genitala to claim you are a women....
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penis yes that may define a male...
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:29 am
Men and women ARE different both mentally and physically. We are made to be different to each other and to compliment each other. We are not made to BE each other on a psychological whim. No amount of hormones or surgery will change that.
WE ARE DIFFERENT!!
We think differently, act differently, behave differently, process differently. Physiologically we are different. Even our retinas are different which means that information arriving in the cerebral cortex is processed differently.
Brain scans, controlled studies, evolutionary psychology, and anthropology demonstrate that men and women are not the same! We are physically & mentally different. We input, process and deliver information differently.
If we were meant to be the same none of us would have bred and mankind would not exist as it does now
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:22 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:07 am
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:38 pm
Being born with a penis does not automatically make you a male.
Yes it does. Do you need a lesson in biology?
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:38 pm
Hermaphrodites were once considered a myth, Now they are recognised as real - people born with both types of genitals. What do you call them?
Hermaphrodites have always been real Brian but we are not talking about hermaphrodites/intersex. We are talking about transgenders. There is a difference even you should be able to grasp.
Biology 101. Hermaphrodites are BORN with both genitals or part thereof. Transgenders are people whose 'gender identity' is different from the gender they were born with.
They are born with penises, BO, therefore, using your earlier comment they must, in your view be males, right?
In reality they can look male, they can look female, they might have a penis with breasts or they might not. It all depends on the individual and no matter what you attempt to claim, the reality is that they are both male and female.
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:38 pm
They are what they believe they are. Why is everybody so intent on trying to shoe-horn people into one gender or the other? It seems like a pointless exercise to me. People can and are what they want to be, BO. Any effort to force them to be something they don't want to be will end up with a lot of very upset and ultimately broken people. Is that something you revel in?
It's simple biology Brian and no I do not revel in mental illness nor do I think it should be pandered too.
I do not like to think that people must conform to what you desire, BO. They are individuals, they can think of themselves as they see fit IMO. You need to learn to accept that.
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:23 pm
cods wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:14 am
I think you need more than genitala to claim you are a women....
a
penis yes that may define a male...
I may but it may also not. See hermaphrodites.
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:24 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:29 am
Men and women ARE different both mentally and physically. We are made to be different to each other and to compliment each other. We are not made to BE each other on a psychological whim. No amount of hormones or surgery will change that.
WE ARE DIFFERENT!!
We think differently, act differently, behave differently, process differently. Physiologically we are different. Even our retinas are different which means that information arriving in the cerebral cortex is processed differently.
Brain scans, controlled studies, evolutionary psychology, and anthropology demonstrate that men and women are not the same! We are physically & mentally different. We input, process and deliver information differently.
If we were meant to be the same none of us would have bred and mankind would not exist as it does now
The reality is that we can now overcome natural evolution and become who we wish, BO. We do not have to conform to your narrow minded views on what a human being is.
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair
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BigP
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by BigP » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:41 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:24 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:29 am
Men and women ARE different both mentally and physically. We are made to be different to each other and to compliment each other. We are not made to BE each other on a psychological whim. No amount of hormones or surgery will change that.
WE ARE DIFFERENT!!
We think differently, act differently, behave differently, process differently. Physiologically we are different. Even our retinas are different which means that information arriving in the cerebral cortex is processed differently.
Brain scans, controlled studies, evolutionary psychology, and anthropology demonstrate that men and women are not the same! We are physically & mentally different. We input, process and deliver information differently.
If we were meant to be the same none of us would have bred and mankind would not exist as it does now
The reality is that we can now overcome natural evolution and become who we wish, BO. We do not have to conform to your narrow minded views on what a human being is.
That being the case Brian, Im thinking that not too many people will be putting their hands up to being born black, as at this point in our evolution they would end up on the wrong side of the negative stats
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:43 pm
It's not what I desire Brian it's a simple fact.
The reality is that we can now overcome natural evolution and become who we wish, BO
That is one of the singularly most ridiculous things you have said.
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by Valkie » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:11 pm
I have a dream
A world free from the plague of Islam
A world that has never known the horrors of the cult of death.
My hope is that in time, Islam will be nothing but a bad dream
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:50 pm
BigP wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:41 pm
That being the case Brian, Im thinking that not too many people will be putting their hands up to being born black, as at this point in our evolution they would end up on the wrong side of the negative stats
Of course, it all depends on where you are. If it was in the US, I'd be more worried about being killed by Police and White Supremacists than anything else. If it was Downunder, I'd be worried about being oppressed by a media which is decidedly Racist in it's tones towards any person of colour.
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