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Re: The truth of the Uluru statement

Post by brian ross » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:17 pm

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Dismissive of Indigenous oral history, Neferti? Tut, tut. I suppose we should ignore what they have told us about ancient astronomy, fauna, flora, sea life, etc? I suppose we should ignore their stories about how they were treated by the Colonists? I suppose we should just ignore everything they have told us about this continent? Really? Such arrogance.
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Re: The truth of the Uluru statement

Post by Neferti » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:30 pm

brian ross wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:17 pm
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Dismissive of Indigenous oral history, Neferti? Tut, tut. I suppose we should ignore what they have told us about ancient astronomy, fauna, flora, sea life, etc? I suppose we should ignore their stories about how they were treated by the Colonists? I suppose we should just ignore everything they have told us about this continent? Really? Such arrogance.
Took the words out of my mouth. Well done!

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Re: The truth of the Uluru statement

Post by brian ross » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:40 pm

Nice to see you admit your arrogance, Neferti...
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Re: The truth of the Uluru statement

Post by Valkie » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:50 pm

Two reasons I won't post a picture of my wedding photo
1) the people in it do not need to be subjected to your scrutiny.
2) you wuouldnt believe it if you saw it, you are so bigoted that nothing anyone else says do you believe.

You are a sad excuse for a human
You scream racist at every opportunity

Tell me
Is it not racist to exclude other white Australians from indiginious only medical centres?
Is it not racist to have abbstudy with different rules than for whites?
Is it not racist to stop people selling art that looks like abbos paintings?
Is it not racist to have special conditions and different payments for abbos and not for whites?

Looks like racism to me.

Again I say
I have never harmed or taken anything from any abbos.....ever
I have nothing to be sorry for or feel ashamed of.
I contribute and work to improve my conditions and country, not sitting on my are a begging for handouts like some.

Living like a beggar, demanding things that you have not earned is simply pathetic
And no, just because you have some blood ties to a country does not give you any rights to everything.

They did not put up a creditable fight for their land.
They therefore have been conquered, beaten, taken over.
They should have fought harder.

To the victor goes the spoils
And your denial of the poor race murdered by the current abbos invaders is disgusting.
But then you still believe the bullshite about stolen generation and secret women's business don't you?

Tut tut beginning
Ignoring genocide of an entire culture.
No wonder you are so filled with hate.
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A world free from the plague of Islam
A world that has never known the horrors of the cult of death.
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Re: The truth of the Uluru statement

Post by Black Orchid » Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:39 pm

brian ross wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:06 pm
I too have an open mind. I too am willing to discuss and express my opinions with anyone, Valkie. I just don't set out to hurt people deliberately, unlike you with your open displays of ignorance, hatred and bigotry. Tut, tut.
No mirrors at your house Brian? :shock:

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Re: The truth of the Uluru statement

Post by brian ross » Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:44 pm

Valkie wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:50 pm
Two reasons I won't post a picture of my wedding photo
1) the people in it do not need to be subjected to your scrutiny.
2) you wuouldnt believe it if you saw it, you are so bigoted that nothing anyone else says do you believe.
If you provide a genuine photo with a stat-dec stating it is of your wedding, I'd believe it was real, Valkie. Until then, you're just whistlin' dixie to me.
You are a sad excuse for a human
You scream racist at every opportunity
No, I say, "Racist," when ever my opponent makes a Racist statement, Valkie. You want me to stop calling you a "Racist," then I'd recommend you stop with your Racism. Simples really. Tut, tut, might be too simple for you though.
Tell me
Is it not racist to exclude other white Australians from indiginious only medical centres?
Is it not racist to have abbstudy with different rules than for whites?
Is it not racist to stop people selling art that looks like abbos paintings?
Is it not racist to have special conditions and different payments for abbos and not for whites?

Looks like racism to me.
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Such a simplistic idea of what Racism constitutes.

It appears "racist" to exclude White Australians from indigenous only medical centres but the reality is, White Australians - in an emergency - cannot be excluded. Such Indigenous medical centres exist because Indigenous people are all too often made uncomfortable and feel excluded from White Australian medical centres.

Abstudy does not exist and hasn't existed for over 20 years, Valkie. Complaints from the Racists like you shut it down under the Howard Government. Today, Indigenous Australians study as part of the normal tertiary education system. They have slightly different admission and maintenance rules which take into account their specific needs, Valkie, nothing more. Education is the ultimate key to helping Indigenous people fix their poverty cycle. Denying it just satisfies your "politics of jealousy" as Howard called it.

People are stopped from making paintings that look like Indigenous paintings? First I've heard of that. Any evidence to back your assertion?

As for different payments and conditions for Indigenous people compared to White Australians - the only difference is that the payments and conditions take into account that Indigenous people live lives very different to most White Australians. If people like you gave Indigenous people employment, instead of telling 'em to piss off all the time, Valkie, this wouldn't be necessary, now would it? Tut, tut, caught out by reality, yet again.
Again I say
I have never harmed or taken anything from any abbos.....ever
I have nothing to be sorry for or feel ashamed of.
I contribute and work to improve my conditions and country, not sitting on my are a begging for handouts like some.
You voted in Australian Governments that did it in your name, Valkie. You are responsible for the conditions that Indigenous people live in. Tut, tut.
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Re: The truth of the Uluru statement

Post by brian ross » Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:47 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:39 pm
brian ross wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:06 pm
I too have an open mind. I too am willing to discuss and express my opinions with anyone, Valkie. I just don't set out to hurt people deliberately, unlike you with your open displays of ignorance, hatred and bigotry. Tut, tut.
No mirrors at your house Brian? :shock:
Plenty and I use them all the time, BO.
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Re: The truth of the Uluru statement

Post by Valkie » Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:49 am

And I suppose thev abbos who commit crime now do it as a combattant?

The rape of their children is part of their kultcha?

It's our fault they are drug addicts or alcohol addicts?

It's our fault the kill each other crashing cars?

Can you not see the victim mentality in this bwyannnnnn?

Sooner or later, one must either admit that you rule your own destiny,
Or you become irrelevant.

We do much for the abbos.
We give them opportunity.
We give them money

They will never get back the "idyllic " primitive lifestyle they had
And I seriously doubt that they would want it or cope with it.

So the only options available are
Move with the times and drag themselves out of the dirt
Or
Die out slowly and painfully, creating misery for themselves and everyone around them.

Poor old bwyannnnn
He don't see this because he is so full of hatred
Go away bwyannnnnn
Go scream racism somewhere else
I'm no longer listening to your crap.
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A world free from the plague of Islam
A world that has never known the horrors of the cult of death.
My hope is that in time, Islam will be nothing but a bad dream

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Re: The truth of the Uluru statement

Post by brian ross » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:55 pm

Valkie, you refuse to accept responsibility for the plight of indigenous Australians - despite your continual voting for political parties which created those conditions. Unlike you, I accept my responsibility and have done things to try and fix the problems. Until you accept your responsibility, you will remain a perpetrator of these effects. Tut, tut.
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Re: The truth of the Uluru statement

Post by Neferti » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:19 am

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