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The ABC of Politics...

Post by Rorschach » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:04 am

Been saying this for years and of course the usual suspects deny it and point to (biased) reports that refute what I say. But the ABC radio and TV is politically biased and it leans mightily to the LEFT.

After pointing this out many times recently in the Newspapers someone has finally stolen a line I frequently used in those comments...

Independence is not Impartiality... Independent does not mean one is Unbiased.
We need the ABC – it’s time it realised that it needs us
Paul Kelly
Editor-at-Large
October 3, 2018

The recent struggles within the ABC are about power and control. This has been the story for the past 40 years. The names and personalities change, each dispute has its special character, but the central narrative is unchanged — how to manage rival stakeholders in Australia’s most important and public media organisation.

Reform of the ABC is the eternal yet elusive quest. The organisation is embedded in our lives, our memories, our sense of country and the world. It is eternally frustrating yet the indispensable companion. It is not just the national broadcaster but a power institution in its own right. It is driven by a strong ethos — the idea of independence as the legitimising cloak for its reporting, scrutiny and critique of the nation.

It is too big, too bureaucratic, too powerful, too impossible to control and, for all these reasons, it is the subject of perennial efforts to influence and control it. Among ABC listeners and viewers, everybody has an opinion — about what’s right, what’s wrong, what they like, what they dislike. And the government and its ministers have very strong opinions.

With the tribulations of the private sector business model — in television and print — the ABC is becoming more important and, in relative terms, more powerful. It is without question the most influential media organisation in the country. But its character as the public broadcaster funded by the taxpayer as authorised by the government constitutes a structure heavy with tensions since the government is a target of ABC coverage, just as it must be a target of any robust media outlet.

The ABC, however, does not function like other media organisations. It has a managing director but no editor-in-chief. While both responsibilities are supposed to be fused in the MD role it is impractical in operational terms that they be conducted by the same executive. In the ABC, editorial power is far more devolved; there is little or no sense of journalists working for an editor-in-chief who defines and enforces editorial policy internally and explains it externally. Perhaps any such role is impossible in the organisation but, if so, that reveals much about the structure and culture of the ABC and the limits on internal accountability.

It many ways the ABC remains a government bureaucracy trying to be a contemporary media organisation in a world where technological change is faster than ever and political positioning is indispensable to the profile of media organisations.

There are four obvious features of the recent complex drama: the ABC has editorial problems in relation to what might politely be called editorial quality, witness the Emma Alberici saga; it has flawed internal mechanisms to address and resolve such defects, with managers lacking the authority over staff of their private sector counterparts; while any government is entitled to complain about the ABC, such complaints constitute a risk, and although Malcolm Turnbull denies seeking any journalist’s dismissal, his complaint ­seriously backfired for the government; finally, the pivotal role of ABC chair requires wisdom and restraint, but Justin Milne in his instructions to Michelle Guthrie was reckless and unjustified in demanding the dismissal of journalists, made his own position untenable, and seems to have compromised the entire board.

The ABC can function only when the chair and MD work in harmony, but this seems to have been cancelled when Milne decided Guthrie’s leadership defects were such that mediation was impossible and dismissal the only option. This was a big call heavy with unintended consequences.

Guthrie had implemented a series of reforms to remove management layers, reduce the number of support divisions and free up more investment for the regions. But she resisted Milne’s Project Jetstream for a big injection of government funds to create a huge digital database for all ABC content in a post-television world.

When Milne told Guthrie journalists had to be sacked in order to “save the corporation” and, by implication, win the funds for his ­vision, she saw this as a futile exercise. Guthrie may have had “leadership style” issues, as Milne said, and been inept in dealing with government, but this was worse.

The backdrop was staff agitation, public applause at Guthrie’s dismissal, cries that ABC independence was compromised and demands for Milne’s head. The Morrison government played catch-up trying to contain the damage and appointing an interim chair, Kirstin Ferguson, likely to satisfy no one.

In the end, what sticks is the idea of ABC independence at risk. The message is that the problem is not the ABC, it is the enemies of the ABC. This reveals a deep cultural reflex. It is a smart power play by the staff who, in such crises, mobilise as a political force under the banner of independence, aware they have a loyal constituency in ABC supporters, strong enough to serve as a disincentive for any Coalition government to challenge the organisation. Ultimately this is the critical power equation.

For what cause is independence being proclaimed? What is the editorial culture of the ABC? It is a vital question that is never asked. These days every media organisation has an editorial culture — just think of CNN, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Fox News, The Daily Telegraph, The Guardian, the Macquarie radio network, SBS, Breitbart, The Australian and Sky News, to list names at random. Which one is politically impartial? None. This leads to the obvious question: in a time when politics defines the market position of a media organisation, how can the ABC be impartial, and how long can it continue the pretence it is?

This is the real dilemma of the public broadcaster under a legislated charter purporting to be free of bias. You cannot square the circle. It doesn’t fit any more. The hoax becomes more and more absurd. Knowing your audience means knowing their demographics and their politics. It’s about being professional.

The ABC, of course, is different to most media organisations in its size, the numbers of journalists and media professionals, its geographical spread and its multiple TV, radio and digital outlets. It cannot be a monolith and it is not a monolith. Yet the sense of a prevailing culture cannot be missed.

Let’s ask some questions: Didn’t the ABC display a strong preference for same-sex marriage? Wasn’t it critical of border protection measures to stop asylum-seeker boats? Doesn’t it favour strong action on climate change and criticise governments for not being sufficiently ambitious? Doesn’t it project support for renewables and faster efforts to phase out fossil fuels? Wasn’t the ABC distinctly unsympathetic to the policy of corporate tax cuts? Wasn’t it hostile towards reform of section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act and unsympathetic to free speech arguments? Doesn’t it push for a referendum on an indigenous voice to parliament and criticise government over this? Isn’t it uncritical of social spending programs and critical of cuts to such programs in the cause of fiscal discipline? Isn’t it more ­focused on inequality than economic growth and more supportive of government intervention over market forces?

Perhaps all of this is fanciful. Each person has a different perception. If true or even half true, it means the ABC is the strongest force for progressive politics in the country. Is that what the passion for independence is about? Might this be the reason every Coalition government gets agitated about the ABC and believes there is a serious issue in terms of fidelity to the charter?

The ABC is a great institution. Australia needs it. Liberal Party talk about its privatisation is juvenile and clueless. But the ABC’s denial and lack of honesty about its own flaws and its editorial culture is unworthy and doesn’t serve the country. An institution that is genuinely strong will confront its strengths and its defects, not cultivate a victimhood while prosecuting a cultural crusade.
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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by brian ross » Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:14 pm

What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.

The ABC is independent of the Government of the day. It is prized because of its ability to tell truth to power. We have seen a succession around the world of public broadcasters who were brought to heel by the Governments' that funded them. The SABC (South African Broadcasting Commission), the BBC, the PBS, etc. Only the ABC stands above all aspects of politics and tells the truth about what is happening.

We should prize that, not criticise them. The detractors want their idea of politics to be favoured, for bias to be shown towards their side of politics. Time they woke up that the ABC is still the most favoured news outlet in Australia. tut, tut. Pauline Hanson will always be criticised for her lunacy. The Tories will always be criticised for their lunacy, just as the ALP will be, along with all the other political parties'.
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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by LEFTWINGER supreme » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:56 pm

Even if it were Bias and it isn't the Left side need all the help they can get with attacks on all fronts from Murdoch media , even the SMH has joined in

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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by Rorschach » Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:22 am

oh look the denialists have arrived... :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

and yes it is political bias.... :du
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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by Rorschach » Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:24 am

One more time for the apologists and denialists...

Let’s ask some questions: Didn’t the ABC display a strong preference for same-sex marriage? Wasn’t it critical of border protection measures to stop asylum-seeker boats? Doesn’t it favour strong action on climate change and criticise governments for not being sufficiently ambitious? Doesn’t it project support for renewables and faster efforts to phase out fossil fuels? Wasn’t the ABC distinctly unsympathetic to the policy of corporate tax cuts? Wasn’t it hostile towards reform of section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act and unsympathetic to free speech arguments? Doesn’t it push for a referendum on an indigenous voice to parliament and criticise government over this? Isn’t it uncritical of social spending programs and critical of cuts to such programs in the cause of fiscal discipline? Isn’t it more ­focused on inequality than economic growth and more supportive of government intervention over market forces?

Perhaps all of this is fanciful. Each person has a different perception. If true or even half true, it means the ABC is the strongest force for progressive politics in the country.
You have no credibility.... either of you. :du :du :du :du :du :oops
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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by Rorschach » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:28 am

Institutionalised bias in the ABC green propaganda machine
By Maurice Newman
12:00AM October 4, 2018

“All things considered, last week was a pretty good one for the ABC,” Alan Kohler, publisher of The Constant Investor and someone who has worked for the ABC for 23 years, wrote in The Australian on Monday. “Sure, it was messy and as the Prime Minister Scott Morrison said yesterday (on the ABC), the board had ‘a pretty ordinary week’. But the organisation? All fine …”

According to Kohler, while ­former managing director Michelle Guthrie is “a good person and a fine executive”, what is needed is someone who can “successfully lead the creation of content within the organisation or, to represent and, preferably, personify, what the ABC stands for, outside it, ­either to the public or the parliament”.

Add to this the appointment of a chairman who, unlike Justin Milne, who is “on way too many boards”, will simply concentrate on the broadcaster. Problem solved. Easy as ABC.

Reassuringly, Kohler informs us: “As someone who has worked in most parts of the Australian media, I can report that the ABC has the most infuriatingly diligent anti-bias and complaint-handling processes of any organisation. No one comes close to it in dealing with complaints, errors and bias, and no organisation is more genuine in trying to do the right thing, from top to bottom.” :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

If his analysis is correct, then it reflects very poorly on all other media.

Perhaps Kohler can explain whether the fact 41 per cent of ABC employees admit to voting Green influences their professional judgment? Why so many uncorrected examples of wilful misreporting and fake news are brought to light and why, almost without exception, when they are outed by others, the bias invariably favours the Left? Why it is there are no genuinely conservative voices presenting mainline programs? Why token conservatives such as John Hewson and Amanda Vanstone, whose views are well known, are the regular go-to “experts” on fashionable topics such as climate change and renewable energy? Why the ABC permits only one-sided narratives on global warming?

If it is balanced, why does it suffer from Trump derangement syndrome? If there is no bias, why does the broadcaster constantly single out former prime minister Tony Abbott and Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton for ridicule, scorn and vilification?

Why did it see fit to champion the Yes case in the debate on same-sex marriage? If it is without bias, why are its most vocal defenders the Greens, the ALP, leftist publications such as The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and The Guardian Australia, and a plethora of socialist academics?


It can’t all be coincidence.

If, as Kohler claims, “no one comes close to it in dealing with complaints, errors and bias”, that’s the “two wrongs” argument, and shame on the rest.

For the April to June quarter, the ABC received 5228 complaints, of which 626 (12 per cent) were investigated and 26 (0.5 per cent) were upheld. These seem incredibly low numbers given the numerous glaring examples of ­errors and misreporting revealed by its audiences and critics.

And how many were in the category of Bob Fernley-Jones, who lodged five well-researched, evidence-based complaints about a Four Corners program, Weather Alert? All he achieved was a rebuke: “Our records indicate that to date you have lodged five complaints via our web form. In future should you wish to lodge a complaint about a program please set out your entire complaint in one submission …

“Kieran Doyle wrote to you on April 12 acknowledging your emails and attachments … The email advised you your complaint would not be investigated by Audience and Consumer Affairs. This advice relates to all of the complaints you submitted.”

With an attitude such as that, what’s the point of complaining?

And does Kohler really believe a lot of people “who take the ABC’s independence for granted were shocked by the idea of a non-executive chairman, and friend of the prime minister, trying to get journalists sacked”? Has he forgotten Bob Hawke attacked the ABC over its overuse of “Middle East experts” who persistently opposed the 1991 Gulf war? The Hawke government threatened to withdraw funding, with treasurer Paul Keating promising: “They won’t get an extra zack out of us. It’s the most pampered, self-indulgent and self-interested outfit in the country.” Was that a challenge to the ABC’s independence?

The shock this time is not that the Turnbull government applied pressure but the clumsy way the chairman handled it. In a word, it was inept. But even the notion of ABC independence is a fiction.

Forget conservative taxpayers, the broadcaster is already a green propaganda machine. Who knows what subtle, informal collaboration occurs with groups such as Friends of the ABC and GetUp? The Friends have appropriated (with or without consent) the official ABC logo.

Its website includes promotions for mainly Labor Party frontbenchers and pages dedicated to Don’t Blame Me I Didn’t Vote Liberal, Human Rights Watch and GetUp, “an independent movement of more than a million people working to build a progressive Australia”. It denigrates Abbott, retails the ABC’s editorial line regarding the evils of Nauru, raises Aboriginal deaths in custody and celebrates “marriage equality made law”.

But, despite it all, Kohler naively insists “we can now be sure that no politician will ring a future chair to call for a journalist’s head, and it will be a while before any ABC director utters a peep about journalistic bias”. That’s hardly the point. It’s too late. The bias is so institutionalised it is beyond change. The charter is a relic.
Tut, tut, tut, tsk, tsk, tsk, oh dearie, dearie me... ABC... :oops
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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by brian ross » Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:17 pm

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Quoting extensively from The Australian? And you're complaining about bias at the ABC? Oh, pooh. Murdoch's rags are so biased they cannot even see the centre, let alone the left end of the spectrum. The ABC is mildly left of centre - it reflects what the overwhelming majority of Australians believe. Australian society, as a whole tends to have slightly left of centre views. You know, the end of the spectrum that you abandoned when you jumped into bed with Pauline? Tut, tut. You have had the most right-wing bias I have ever known and it's gotten worse over the years, G. You're full of it, you spew hatred and bile towards anything or anybody you disagree with. You rail against them for daring to hold an opinion different to your own. You brand them a "troll" when they refuse to jump on your bandwagon. You scream obscenities at them when they refuse to accept your opinion. You get banned from forums all the time. I know of at least three you've been kicked out of, I'm sure if I looked I could find more. You're a WAFTM. Run along back to your little kiddies' playground.
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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by Rorschach » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:05 pm

oh dearie dearie me, tut tut tut, tsk, tsk tsk bwian... being a fool yet again I see, I quote many sources bwian. Unlike you, I am not a fool or in denial.

Unlike you I read widely I listen to and watch all types of sources with a variety of political positions, but unlike you I also know what I'm talking about and don't deny reality. nor do I stick with any one side of politics or a certain ideology.. I stick with the truth and facts.

You should try it occasionally. :du :du :du :du :du

I've never been in bed with Pauline. You? I'm not a rusted-on obsessive like yourself bwian. I just post the truth. You? Ah yes nothing so far in your last post is truthful at all is it. :du :du :du

I'm of the Left bwian. I am also Conservative socially. You? A LW Prog with a habit of lying and self delusion with an over helping of self righteous hypocrisy.

I don't spew hatred anywhere unlike yourself... I don't need to build myself up by putting others down. I listen to all sides of an argument unlike you who as an all knowing bigot... lie, slander and ridicule everyone who disagrees with you.

I brand TROLLS TROLL bwian, there are many on Ozpol and you do your fair share of it too... take this last post of your for instance... on topic? Nope. Just flaming and lying like a true TROLL.

I was only banned from D&R and that was because of you... tsk, tsk, tsk bwian... hows your site going btw, ruined it I hear. :du :du :du

You are a twat bwian... if you can't debate on topic... piss off. :stay
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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by brian ross » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:52 pm

You're full of it, you spew hatred and bile towards anything or anybody you disagree with. You rail against them for daring to hold an opinion different to your own. You brand them a "troll" or wrose when they refuse to jump on your bandwagon. You scream obscenities at them when they refuse to accept your opinion. You get banned from forums all the time. I know of at least three you've been kicked out of, I'm sure if I looked I could find more. You're a WAFTM. Run along back to your little kiddies' playground.
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Re: The ABC of Politics...

Post by Neferti » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:18 pm

The ABC needs to be gutted ... 1 billion of TAXPAYER DOLLARS used, for what? Because there are "no commercials"? Rubbish.

I don't watch the ABC. Never have. I have only just started watching the News on Sky in the last few months and about to stop, again. It is all the same crap. Talking Heads.

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