What does islam bring

[Neferti]

I don't claim to be an expert.

I am merely more receptive to my fellow Australians. I have had no problems with Muslims. I have served with, studied with, worked with and supervised numerous different Muslim people over the decades since the 1980s.

Immigrants who arrived in Australia after WW2 from a variety of countries were Muslims. They were considered "normal" and in areas where there was a majority of Muslims, Mosques were erected. Life went on. They went to their Church, Baptists and Methodists went to theirs and the Catholics went to theirs. Life was GOOD and religion had no problems in every day life.

These Aussie Muslims are still in Australia and they do NOT wear robes or head coverings.

The PROBLEM IS those who want to harm you and me for whatever reason. Can you tell them to STOP?

[brian ross]

I don't claim to be an expert.

I am merely more receptive to my fellow Australians. I have had no problems with Muslims. I have served with, studied with, worked with and supervised numerous different Muslim people over the decades since the 1980s.

Immigrants who arrived in Australia after WW2 from a variety of countries were Muslims. They were considered "normal" and in areas where there was a majority of Muslims, Mosques were erected. Life went on. They went to their Church, Baptists and Methodists went to theirs and the Catholics went to theirs. Life was GOOD and religion had no problems in every day life.

These Aussie Muslims are still in Australia and they do NOT wear robes or head coverings.

The PROBLEM IS those who want to harm you and me for whatever reason. Can you tell them to STOP?

I have. I have been either ignored or noted.

Muslims first arrived in Australia before the arrival of Europeans, with the Makassian traders in the Top End. I grew up in Adelaide, not far from the oldest working Mosque in Australia. Muslims have never frightened me. Perhaps because I was a member of an already oppressed minority in Australian society - Catholics. My father was forced because of the state public service attitude towards Catholics amongst it's members to change to the Commonwealth Public Service in order to gain advancement. I can dimly remember the way in which the Catholics finally gained recognition from the Federal Government for provision of funding for schooling. Most people have forgotten that Australia was once riven with a massive sectarian divide between Protestants and Catholics. It has all but disappeared from our society. I see Muslims being treated in a similar manner to how Jews, Catholics, etc. were once treated.

[Rorschach]

Well you are a liar and wrong brian.... you do what you blame others for... you think the few Muslims you liked are like all Muslims... and so you call people who know better Islamophobics and xenophobes and racists... tsk, tsk, tsk bwian.

[Rorschach]

Islamic state sponsored hate speech.... Iran has been a breeding ground for these sentiments for decades bwian.

Many Islamic countries and their peoples bwian are brainwashed into believing this crap and the associated conspiracy rubbish and the associated victimhood. They blame the US their allies and the West in general...

Your Indonesian Muslim mates bwian may not have shared those sentiments once, but many parts of Indonesia are now starting to turn that way.

[Neferti]

I have. I have been either ignored or noted.

Muslims first arrived in Australia before the arrival of Europeans, with the Makassian traders in the Top End.

What on earth is a Makassian?

I grew up in Adelaide, not far from the oldest working Mosque in Australia. Muslims have never frightened me. Perhaps because I was a member of an already oppressed minority in Australian society - Catholics. My father was forced because of the state public service attitude towards Catholics amongst it's members to change to the Commonwealth Public Service in order to gain advancement.

Poor you. Adelaide of all Places ... I thought Adelaide was full of Lutherans back in the day. Lutherans are Protestant. So your Dad went from being a State Public Servant to a Commonwealth one? The Army is a Public Service too, you know. Ditto Teachers, etc.

I can dimly remember the way in which the Catholics finally gained recognition from the Federal Government for provision of funding for schooling. Most people have forgotten that Australia was once riven with a massive sectarian divide between Protestants and Catholics. It has all but disappeared from our society.

Was your Dad Irish by chance? Catholic Irish Lefties always vote Labor, because their Grandad did, regardless. It's in their DNA.

I see Muslims being treated in a similar manner to how Jews, Catholics, etc. were once treated.

You aren't looking straight, "Brian". Poor you, still pretending that you were hard-done-by as a kid because you were Catholic. Grow-the-eff-up.

[brian ross]

I have. I have been either ignored or noted.

Muslims first arrived in Australia before the arrival of Europeans, with the Makassian traders in the Top End.

What on earth is a Makassian?

Look it up, Neferti. Education is a useful tool, don't you think? Makassar.

I grew up in Adelaide, not far from the oldest working Mosque in Australia. Muslims have never frightened me. Perhaps because I was a member of an already oppressed minority in Australian society - Catholics. My father was forced because of the state public service attitude towards Catholics amongst it's members to change to the Commonwealth Public Service in order to gain advancement.

Poor you. Adelaide of all Places ... I thought Adelaide was full of Lutherans back in the day. Lutherans are Protestant. So your Dad went from being a State Public Servant to a Commonwealth one? The Army is a Public Service too, you know. Ditto Teachers, etc.

Adelaide has many different religions in it's population, Neferti. Lutherans mainly inhabited the Barossa Valley to the NE of the city, in the Adelaide Hills. Muslims arrived with the Cameleers in the mid-late 19th century - they were vital to the opening up of the outback, in particular the centre of Australia. Catholics arrived with the first free settlers - in the only Australian colony which was set up as a free settlement. Yes, my father moved from the State public service under Playford to the Commonwealth public service. He did serve in the Army in WWII, as did my mother. They met at Woomera where he was the project manager for the building of Woomera Village (where all the scientists and their families lived).

I can dimly remember the way in which the Catholics finally gained recognition from the Federal Government for provision of funding for schooling. Most people have forgotten that Australia was once riven with a massive sectarian divide between Protestants and Catholics. It has all but disappeared from our society.

Was your Dad Irish by chance? Catholic Irish Lefties always vote Labor, because their Grandad did, regardless. It's in their DNA.

No, my father was Australian, being second generation. He came from working class stock. The "mother's milk" theory of political alignment has been breaking down for the last 70 years and didn't hold true for my father, anyway - otherwise he would have been one of Daniel Mannix's boys.

I see Muslims being treated in a similar manner to how Jews, Catholics, etc. were once treated.

You aren't looking straight, "Brian". Poor you, still pretending that you were hard-done-by as a kid because you were Catholic. Grow-the-eff-up.

Oh, no, I wasn't hard done by. My father was. He worked to make sure I and my siblings didn't suffer any of the deprivations he had. Muslims at the present moment represent about 3% of the Australian population. They are being persecuted, exactly as the Catholics were, exactly as the Jews were, for being different. People like yourself make little effort to understand that difference, preferring your prejudices learnt from the Media. Tut, tut.

[Black Orchid]

No such word as Makassian, Brian. They would be Indonesians not "Makassians".

Muslims at the present moment represent about 3% of the Australian population. They are being persecuted, exactly as the Catholics were, exactly as the Jews were, for being different. People like yourself make little effort to understand that difference, preferring your prejudices learnt from the Media. Tut, tut.

Muslims are persecuted by other muslims. The rest is laughable and prejudiced SJW idiocy.

[brian ross]

It is laughable that you use that photo to represent the danger that the majority of Muslims supposedly bring to Australian society. It is like suggesting any of these represent the reality of the persecuted minorities they portray:

[Black Orchid]

The image I posted is representative of what we have to endure from the muslims in Sydney, Brian, but I am sure I could find some cartoon images if you can relate to them more

[brian ross]

All groups, religious, political, social, etc. have idiots amongst them, BO. Your image represents a tiny minority amongst Muslims. I showed you that there are anti-Semites in Australia, still, despite the Nazis being defeated and WWII resulting the deaths of millions of innocent people. Laugh it off all you like, all you're doing is persecuting innocent Muslims who have committed no crime.