Never forget!

[boxy]

I watched the 9-11 doco on the anniversary. A fitting tribute to the FDNY guys that went running up those stairs to their death.

A chilling look at just how desolate that even the largest city centre in the world can become, in mere minutes, when the shite hits the fan.

[JW Frogen]

I watched the 9-11 doco on the anniversary. A fitting tribute to the FDNY guys that went running up those stairs to their death.

A chilling look at just how desolate that even the largest city centre in the world can become, in mere minutes, when the shite hits the fan.

And yet New York City revived, in just weeks, it did not die, it will live for centuries, despite Al Qeada's hopes and leftist psychology.

Optimism will always be a stronger force than fanaticism or cynicism.

The latter two being antagonistic twins.

[Oliver Nickezoff]

"Al Qeada's hopes and leftist psychology"

Fark eh! The CIA built a leftist terrorist group to fight the Soviets. Is there anything those crazy yanks wont do?

[JW Frogen]

. Is there anything those crazy yanks wont do?

Yes, run from an infant democracy in Iraq and call the insuing carnage peace.


I think you will find Al Qeada invented itself, (indeed Bin Ladin’s main argument in Afghanistan was that Muslims do not need infidel help), you see this is part of the Leafiest psychology I am talking about, where the little brown people do not have ideological desires, political ambitions and religious ideas all on their own, it is always the evil CIA who plucked them from selling Kebabs to deciding they want Jihad.

These groups ideology existed before the soviets even invaded Afghanistan (see the Muslim Brotherhood); Afghanistan just gave them a battleground.

They would have existed with or without the CIA helping them temporarily against the Soviets.

The latter strategy a good one given the nature of the Soviet threat.

If you think the US letting the Soviets conquer Afghanistan would have prevented Islam Fascism you are deluded.

[Oliver Nickezoff]

Frogen said: probably the same old dribble he's written a thousand times before, I dont care enough for his opinion to read it.

Leftist group to fight the Soviets eh. Ultra conservative Bin Laden who's totally pissed off with the Saudi leaders for being progressive enough to engage with the west, leads a leftist terrorist group. Funny old world.

This was probably the act that fired up his lefty outrage. He was no doubt planning to save the turtles with all that money.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/art ... 1142.shtml

[JW Frogen]

Hey, if you believing stomping your feet and whining woe is me is preferable to understanding Islamo Fascism (you can not even give them the human dignity of their own motives) be my guest.

In the world of the far left it is only and always about you.

[Oliver Nickezoff]

(you can not even give them the human dignity of their own motives)

Motive one: The country that once supported him hacked into all his bank accounts, took all his money and bragged about it.

Motive two: Leftist idiology because frogen says so.

Take your pick

[boxy]

I watched the 9-11 doco on the anniversary. A fitting tribute to the FDNY guys that went running up those stairs to their death.

A chilling look at just how desolate that even the largest city centre in the world can become, in mere minutes, when the shite hits the fan.

And yet New York City revived, in just weeks, it did not die, it will live for centuries, despite Al Qeada's hopes and leftist psychology.

Optimism will always be a stronger force than fanaticism or cynicism.

The latter two being antagonistic twins.

Don't you get sick of spouting the same, non sequitur, drivel no matter what I say, Frogen?

[JW Frogen]

(you can not even give them the human dignity of their own motives)

Motive one: The country that once supported him hacked into all his bank accounts, took all his money and bragged about it.

Motive two: Leftist idiology because frogen says so.

Take your pick

Or you could say the man who was once supported murdered many of his supporters and so reaps what he sowed.

You see, you may not have any solutions to any global problem (this too is a Leftest self indulgence) but at least you can get the time line right.

Maybe?

[JW Frogen]

Don't you get sick of spouting the same, non sequitur, drivel no matter what I say, Frogen?

Nor more so than you get sick of your cynical-minimalist-minimal.

Shrink any smaller in your world view and the world will be out of view.

See, I think our exchanges are sort of like the Colorado River and all that rock in the Grand Canyon. (The Grand Canyon being an apt metaphor for your intellect Boxy.)

The rock is stratified, stagnant, hard and dumb.

But if reason just keeps flowing, the rock will yield, whether it wants to or not, it will yield.