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Re: 2GB just said Lib leadership challenge is on
Gosh silly old Polly Waffle is trying to get noticed EVEN over here!!!!
Holy Moses they are circling Mal!!!
Turnbull sells out Australia: PM jeopardises trade with Europe and risks losing $6.5BILLION deal after ditching key Paris energy pledge to save his own skin - as rebels rush to back leadership rival Peter Dutton
By GRETA LEVY FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA PUBLISHED: 00:46 AEST, 18 August 2018 | UPDATED: 10:42 AEST, 18 August 2018
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull backflipped after MPs threatened to cross floor
He dropped the government's plans to legislate the 26 per cent climate target
2015 climate change commitment will be mandated through Ministerial order
The failure to meet the target could cost the country up to $6.4billion in GDP
Minister Peter Dutton confirmed on Friday he is considering all his options
Plan will formally go to Cabinet and be discussed by the coalition party room
Malcolm Turnbull's backflip on plans to legislate the Paris emissions reduction target could cost Australia billions.
Faced with the prospect of ten rebel MPs crossing the floor to vote against his National Energy Guarantee and a possible leadership challenge from Peter Dutton, Mr Turnbull capitulated in an attempt to secure his own political future.
But the move could spell the end of a proposed free trade agreement (FTA) between Australia and the European Union.
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Holy Moses they are circling Mal!!!
Turnbull sells out Australia: PM jeopardises trade with Europe and risks losing $6.5BILLION deal after ditching key Paris energy pledge to save his own skin - as rebels rush to back leadership rival Peter Dutton
By GRETA LEVY FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA PUBLISHED: 00:46 AEST, 18 August 2018 | UPDATED: 10:42 AEST, 18 August 2018
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull backflipped after MPs threatened to cross floor
He dropped the government's plans to legislate the 26 per cent climate target
2015 climate change commitment will be mandated through Ministerial order
The failure to meet the target could cost the country up to $6.4billion in GDP
Minister Peter Dutton confirmed on Friday he is considering all his options
Plan will formally go to Cabinet and be discussed by the coalition party room
Malcolm Turnbull's backflip on plans to legislate the Paris emissions reduction target could cost Australia billions.
Faced with the prospect of ten rebel MPs crossing the floor to vote against his National Energy Guarantee and a possible leadership challenge from Peter Dutton, Mr Turnbull capitulated in an attempt to secure his own political future.
But the move could spell the end of a proposed free trade agreement (FTA) between Australia and the European Union.
Read the exciting rest here
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The troops are rallying to encourage Mal to step down.
'It's no way to run a government': Tony Abbott slams Malcolm Turnbull for backflipping on plans to legislate the Paris emissions reduction target - fuelling speculation of a leadership challenge from Peter Dutton
By BRYANT HEVESI and GRETA LEVY FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA and AUSTRALIAN ASSOCIATED PRESS PUBLISHED: 15:37 AEST, 18 August 2018 | UPDATED: 15:37 AEST, 18 August 2018
Tony Abbott has hit out at Malcolm Turnbull over the National Energy Guarantee
It comes after Mr Turnbull backflipped on the Paris emissions reduction target
Speaking on radio on Saturday, Mr Abbott said 'It's no way to run a government'
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull backflipped after MPs threatened to cross floor
He dropped the government's plans to legislate the 26 per cent climate target
Tony Abbott has hit out at Malcolm Turnbull just hours after the prime minister backflipped on plans to legislate the Paris emissions reduction target.
Faced with a possible leadership challenge from Peter Dutton and the prospect of 10 rebel MPs crossing the floor to vote against his National Energy Guarantee, Mr Turnbull has now reportedly proposed setting emissions targets by regulation.
Mr Abbott took to radio on Saturday to slam Mr Turnbull's decision and continue his call for the government to scrap the NEG altogether.
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'It's no way to run a government': Tony Abbott slams Malcolm Turnbull for backflipping on plans to legislate the Paris emissions reduction target - fuelling speculation of a leadership challenge from Peter Dutton
By BRYANT HEVESI and GRETA LEVY FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA and AUSTRALIAN ASSOCIATED PRESS PUBLISHED: 15:37 AEST, 18 August 2018 | UPDATED: 15:37 AEST, 18 August 2018
Tony Abbott has hit out at Malcolm Turnbull over the National Energy Guarantee
It comes after Mr Turnbull backflipped on the Paris emissions reduction target
Speaking on radio on Saturday, Mr Abbott said 'It's no way to run a government'
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull backflipped after MPs threatened to cross floor
He dropped the government's plans to legislate the 26 per cent climate target
Tony Abbott has hit out at Malcolm Turnbull just hours after the prime minister backflipped on plans to legislate the Paris emissions reduction target.
Faced with a possible leadership challenge from Peter Dutton and the prospect of 10 rebel MPs crossing the floor to vote against his National Energy Guarantee, Mr Turnbull has now reportedly proposed setting emissions targets by regulation.
Mr Abbott took to radio on Saturday to slam Mr Turnbull's decision and continue his call for the government to scrap the NEG altogether.
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Oh the excitement is just too much to bear as endless cheap coal power for all (even the WELFARE dependent Lefties) is just around the corner as the new TRUMP style Govt prepares to save Australia from the Socialist insanity of Labor and the Greenies and GetUp!.
Our next PM? Meet the former drug squad cop positioning to challenge Malcolm Turnbull for Australia's top job - and the career-defining reason why he must act NOW
By MAX MARGAN and STEPHEN JOHNSON FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA PUBLISHED: 14:22 AEST, 17 August 2018 | UPDATED: 04:08 AEST, 18 August 2018
Peter Dutton poised to challenge Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, reports say
There may be a career-defining reason forcing the Home Affairs Minister's hand
A group of right-leaning Coalition MPs are angry at government's energy policy
They're said to be urging him to roll Turnbull after his 38th straight Newspoll loss
The Greens have concocted a plan to unseat Mr Dutton, a former police officer
Analysts suggest Mr Dutton's seat is vulnerable as long as Turnbull is in charge
Daily Mail Australia looks at what we know about the man who could soon be PM
Peter Dutton (back) is poised to challenge Malcolm Turnbull (front) in coming weeks, reports say
As Peter Dutton eyes off a possible challenge to Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull within weeks, self-preservation is possibly weighing heavily on his mind.
A group of right-wing Coalition MPs, angry at the government's energy policy, have urged the Home Affairs Minister to knife Mr Turnbull, following his 38th consecutive Newspoll loss to Bill Shorten's Labor Party.
'There are only two good outcomes here - either the energy policy is dead and we can go to the election fighting Labor on it, or Malcolm goes,' an unnamed MP told The Daily Telegraph.
The leadership rumbling roared louder on Friday as top-rating Sydney radio 2GB broadcaster Ray Hadley said the leadership challenge was 'happening for sure and certain ... 100 per cent'.
Perhaps Mr Dutton's possible leadership assault has more to do with saving his own political skin than the National Energy Guarantee.
Mr Dutton, a former police officer, holds Dickson in Brisbane's outer north-west by the barest of margins - just 1.6 per cent.
Labor is well placed to win back the seat for the first time in 17 years with the help of the Greens - who have enlisted human rights lawyer Benedict Coyne to run against him - and left-wing activist group GetUp!, which has been heavily targeting his hard-line stance on immigration.
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Our next PM? Meet the former drug squad cop positioning to challenge Malcolm Turnbull for Australia's top job - and the career-defining reason why he must act NOW
By MAX MARGAN and STEPHEN JOHNSON FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA PUBLISHED: 14:22 AEST, 17 August 2018 | UPDATED: 04:08 AEST, 18 August 2018
Peter Dutton poised to challenge Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, reports say
There may be a career-defining reason forcing the Home Affairs Minister's hand
A group of right-leaning Coalition MPs are angry at government's energy policy
They're said to be urging him to roll Turnbull after his 38th straight Newspoll loss
The Greens have concocted a plan to unseat Mr Dutton, a former police officer
Analysts suggest Mr Dutton's seat is vulnerable as long as Turnbull is in charge
Daily Mail Australia looks at what we know about the man who could soon be PM
Peter Dutton (back) is poised to challenge Malcolm Turnbull (front) in coming weeks, reports say
As Peter Dutton eyes off a possible challenge to Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull within weeks, self-preservation is possibly weighing heavily on his mind.
A group of right-wing Coalition MPs, angry at the government's energy policy, have urged the Home Affairs Minister to knife Mr Turnbull, following his 38th consecutive Newspoll loss to Bill Shorten's Labor Party.
'There are only two good outcomes here - either the energy policy is dead and we can go to the election fighting Labor on it, or Malcolm goes,' an unnamed MP told The Daily Telegraph.
The leadership rumbling roared louder on Friday as top-rating Sydney radio 2GB broadcaster Ray Hadley said the leadership challenge was 'happening for sure and certain ... 100 per cent'.
Perhaps Mr Dutton's possible leadership assault has more to do with saving his own political skin than the National Energy Guarantee.
Mr Dutton, a former police officer, holds Dickson in Brisbane's outer north-west by the barest of margins - just 1.6 per cent.
Labor is well placed to win back the seat for the first time in 17 years with the help of the Greens - who have enlisted human rights lawyer Benedict Coyne to run against him - and left-wing activist group GetUp!, which has been heavily targeting his hard-line stance on immigration.
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It used to be BackFlop Billy now BackFlop Mally has joined him.
It's Malcolm U-Turnbull! Prime minister BACKFLIPS on key policy in desperate attempt to save his leadership after rebel MPs threatened to oust him
By GRETA LEVY FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA PUBLISHED: 18:41 AEST, 17 August 2018 | UPDATED: 04:03 AEST, 18 August 2018
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull backflipped after MPs threatened to cross floor
He dropped the government's plans to legislate the 26 per cent climate target
2015 climate change commitment will be mandated through ministerial order
The failure to meet the target could cost the country up to $6.5billion in GDP
Minister Peter Dutton confirmed on Friday he is considering all his options
It will formally go to Cabinet and be discussed by the coalition party room
Malcolm Turnbull has backflipped on plans to legislate the Paris emissions reduction target after rebel MPs threatened to cross the floor.
The Australian Prime Minister has dropped the government's plans to legislate the 26 per cent Paris emissions reduction target.
The 2015 climate change commitment will be mandated through ministerial order instead.
Mr Turnbull capitulated after rebel MPs threatened to cross the floor and vote it down.
A failure to meet Paris climate targets could have devastating consequences for a proposed Australia EU free trade agreement, Trade Minister Steven Ciobo has warned, costing the country up to 6.5billion in GDP.
The Australian Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull has dropped the government's plans to legislate the 26 per cent Paris emissions reduction target
'I can tell you one of the very first consequences if we were to adopt that approach (to pull out) is we could kiss goodbye on a trade agreement with Europe,' Mr Ciobo told Sky News.
To minimise the prospect of a backbench revolt, the Prime Minister will propose setting emissions targets by regulation instead of legislation,The Australian reported.
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Is the NEG the boat anchor dragging BackFloppy Mal under ?
It's Malcolm U-Turnbull! Prime minister BACKFLIPS on key policy in desperate attempt to save his leadership after rebel MPs threatened to oust him
By GRETA LEVY FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA PUBLISHED: 18:41 AEST, 17 August 2018 | UPDATED: 04:03 AEST, 18 August 2018
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull backflipped after MPs threatened to cross floor
He dropped the government's plans to legislate the 26 per cent climate target
2015 climate change commitment will be mandated through ministerial order
The failure to meet the target could cost the country up to $6.5billion in GDP
Minister Peter Dutton confirmed on Friday he is considering all his options
It will formally go to Cabinet and be discussed by the coalition party room
Malcolm Turnbull has backflipped on plans to legislate the Paris emissions reduction target after rebel MPs threatened to cross the floor.
The Australian Prime Minister has dropped the government's plans to legislate the 26 per cent Paris emissions reduction target.
The 2015 climate change commitment will be mandated through ministerial order instead.
Mr Turnbull capitulated after rebel MPs threatened to cross the floor and vote it down.
A failure to meet Paris climate targets could have devastating consequences for a proposed Australia EU free trade agreement, Trade Minister Steven Ciobo has warned, costing the country up to 6.5billion in GDP.
The Australian Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull has dropped the government's plans to legislate the 26 per cent Paris emissions reduction target
'I can tell you one of the very first consequences if we were to adopt that approach (to pull out) is we could kiss goodbye on a trade agreement with Europe,' Mr Ciobo told Sky News.
To minimise the prospect of a backbench revolt, the Prime Minister will propose setting emissions targets by regulation instead of legislation,The Australian reported.
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Is the NEG the boat anchor dragging BackFloppy Mal under ?
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Mal is going down fighting but it is too little too late.
Now an RC into power companies gaming the power system made unstable by the renewable rubbish.
And Silly Billy's heart is sinking by the day.
And the wonky Greenies are squawking Global Warming Hoax stuff at every opportunity.
The unions will be putting a bomb under the ILLEGALLY CLAIMING TO BE INDEPENDENT GetUp!.
PM’s latest twist: Now he’s threatening power companies. Coal-fired power stations will be with us for a while yet.
The New Daily 12:38pm, Aug 19, 2018
Energy companies gouging customers will get the "big stick" treatment, the PM vows. Photo: Getty
Under pressure over his energy plan, Malcolm Turnbull is promising to use a “big stick” on power companies that fail to deliver on cheaper prices.
The Prime Minister insists prices will come down through his signature NEG energy policy – a claim being openly disputed even by members of his own party.
As criticism grew over the weekend following Mr Turnbull’s about-face on legislating carbon reductions, he promised his government will set a “price expectation” confirming the most anyone should pay.
Power companies that don’t pass on savings will be put on notice by the competition watchdog and face the “toughest penalties” if they don’t turn things around, Mr Turnbull said in a video on Facebook.
“We will not hesitate to use a big stick … to make sure the big companies do the right thing by you, their customers,” he said.
Critics immediately assailed the Prime Minister’s announcement, saying there was no reason to believe his NEG scheme would lower prices in the least.
Greens Leader Richard Di Natale the modelling did not demonstrate it could bring down prices.
The Prime Minister has also stressed that his predecessor Tony Abbott once spruiked the emissions reduction target in his energy plan, the 26 per cent cut by 2030 pledged under the Paris climate agreement.
“As Tony Abbott said in 2015, it is a strong and responsible target, environmentally and economically responsible,” he said.
Mr Turnbull said under a new law, any government that wanted to change the target in the future will have to inform Australians of what impact that may have on their power bill.
The announcement comes as the Mr Turnbull moves to shore up his own job, with some MPs concerned enough to encourage Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton stand against him.
Mr Dutton on Saturday tweeted that Mr Turnbull has his support.
@PeterDutton_MP
In relation to media stories today, just to make very clear, the Prime Minister has my support and I support the policies of the Government. My position hasn’t changed from my comments last Thursday.
Deputy Nationals Leader Bridget McKenzie said she learnt of the changes to Mr Turnbull’s policy through his public announcement and expected to be briefed on them at a cabinet dinner on Sunday night.
Asked whether she backed Mr Turnbull, the senator said his government’s record speaks for itself.
“I think Malcolm Turnbull is our prime minister and I would like to see him stay as prime minister,” she told Sky News on Sunday.
The senator said the latest changes might make it easier to increase the emissions target in the future, a key complaint of pro-coal Coalition members. But Ms. McKenzie also noted that it would make it easier to lower emisions targets.
Richard Di Natale said his party would continue to pressure Labor not to back the plan, which he said did not do anywhere near enough to combat catastrophic climate change.
“What we’re saying to the Labor Party is – work with us,” he told ABC TV on Sunday.
“Don’t give them the tools to actually slash what is an already pathetic [emissions] target.”
-with AAP
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/nationa ... companies/
Now an RC into power companies gaming the power system made unstable by the renewable rubbish.
And Silly Billy's heart is sinking by the day.
And the wonky Greenies are squawking Global Warming Hoax stuff at every opportunity.
The unions will be putting a bomb under the ILLEGALLY CLAIMING TO BE INDEPENDENT GetUp!.
PM’s latest twist: Now he’s threatening power companies. Coal-fired power stations will be with us for a while yet.
The New Daily 12:38pm, Aug 19, 2018
Energy companies gouging customers will get the "big stick" treatment, the PM vows. Photo: Getty
Under pressure over his energy plan, Malcolm Turnbull is promising to use a “big stick” on power companies that fail to deliver on cheaper prices.
The Prime Minister insists prices will come down through his signature NEG energy policy – a claim being openly disputed even by members of his own party.
As criticism grew over the weekend following Mr Turnbull’s about-face on legislating carbon reductions, he promised his government will set a “price expectation” confirming the most anyone should pay.
Power companies that don’t pass on savings will be put on notice by the competition watchdog and face the “toughest penalties” if they don’t turn things around, Mr Turnbull said in a video on Facebook.
“We will not hesitate to use a big stick … to make sure the big companies do the right thing by you, their customers,” he said.
Critics immediately assailed the Prime Minister’s announcement, saying there was no reason to believe his NEG scheme would lower prices in the least.
Greens Leader Richard Di Natale the modelling did not demonstrate it could bring down prices.
The Prime Minister has also stressed that his predecessor Tony Abbott once spruiked the emissions reduction target in his energy plan, the 26 per cent cut by 2030 pledged under the Paris climate agreement.
“As Tony Abbott said in 2015, it is a strong and responsible target, environmentally and economically responsible,” he said.
Mr Turnbull said under a new law, any government that wanted to change the target in the future will have to inform Australians of what impact that may have on their power bill.
The announcement comes as the Mr Turnbull moves to shore up his own job, with some MPs concerned enough to encourage Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton stand against him.
Mr Dutton on Saturday tweeted that Mr Turnbull has his support.
@PeterDutton_MP
In relation to media stories today, just to make very clear, the Prime Minister has my support and I support the policies of the Government. My position hasn’t changed from my comments last Thursday.
Deputy Nationals Leader Bridget McKenzie said she learnt of the changes to Mr Turnbull’s policy through his public announcement and expected to be briefed on them at a cabinet dinner on Sunday night.
Asked whether she backed Mr Turnbull, the senator said his government’s record speaks for itself.
“I think Malcolm Turnbull is our prime minister and I would like to see him stay as prime minister,” she told Sky News on Sunday.
The senator said the latest changes might make it easier to increase the emissions target in the future, a key complaint of pro-coal Coalition members. But Ms. McKenzie also noted that it would make it easier to lower emisions targets.
Richard Di Natale said his party would continue to pressure Labor not to back the plan, which he said did not do anywhere near enough to combat catastrophic climate change.
“What we’re saying to the Labor Party is – work with us,” he told ABC TV on Sunday.
“Don’t give them the tools to actually slash what is an already pathetic [emissions] target.”
-with AAP
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Can BackFlop Mally backflop enough to win back support from the Libs ?
Even PM’s allies ask: what use is he to us?
SIMON BENSON NATIONAL AFFAIRS EDITOR 12:00AM AUGUST 20, 2018
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull. Picture: PMO
Malcolm Turnbull is in full capitulation mode. In the face of a possible and increasingly likely challenge, he has buckled to rebel MPs, and in the process surrendered the future of his leadership to the demands of a few.
By abandoning what was a core principle, a climate change target, he has risked undermining his own moral authority. Abbott loyalists will decree that Turnbull is now the leader of an ostensibly Abbott government, at least on policy. Turnbull’s colleagues are understandably beginning to ask the central question: what is the point and purpose of a Turnbull-led Coalition government.
The contest of values has been tearing at the parliamentary party since Turnbull took the leadership. The simmering feud is now manifest in open hostility. But the PM confronts a Hobson’s choice. Believing his leadership is at stake, Turnbull has taken dramatic action. But at what price for the party? Abandoning company tax cuts is to jettison core Liberal policy and philosophy.
However, for the conservative forces now mounting against him, things have moved beyond the national energy guarantee, company tax and even a promise to fix the Catholic school funding crisis. The catalyst has been the failure of political management under Turnbull’s leadership.
Key people in his cabinet and the broader ministry have lost confidence in his judgment. Those close to Home Affairs Minister and conservative powerbroker Peter Dutton say a leadership challenge is almost assured. It is a question of timing. According to one: “Those who don’t like Turnbull want him gone and gone quickly; those who like Turnbull fear he will be gone and gone quickly.”
A defining moment has arrived for a decision between two competing ideas. Does the Liberal Party return to the conservative values that have provided the ballast for its most successful periods in government, aligned with a centre-right orthodoxy, or does it continue with the moderate, centrist experiment?At the heart of it are two interpretations of the Menzies era. Turnbull has argued that the founder of the modern Liberal Party was a moderate. Conservatives violently disagree. They are forced to this crossroad largely through human folly.
Two mistakes were made, one by Tony Abbott and another by Turnbull, both driven by their blind hatred of each other. Abbott should have made Turnbull his treasurer when he had the chance. It may not have protected his leadership over the long term but it would have almost certainly ensured Abbott would have led the Coalition to a second victory in the 2016 election.
Turnbull’s error was to never put Abbott in cabinet. This would have at least provided a level of insurance over his leadership.
As always, the greatest price of these perpetual struggles, which began with Labor a decade ago, is paid by the rest of us. If Turnbull loses his job, and he may well not, it will have been more than a decade since a prime minister, John Howard, has lasted long enough to serve a full term.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation ... e74fd3f0c8
Even PM’s allies ask: what use is he to us?
SIMON BENSON NATIONAL AFFAIRS EDITOR 12:00AM AUGUST 20, 2018
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull. Picture: PMO
Malcolm Turnbull is in full capitulation mode. In the face of a possible and increasingly likely challenge, he has buckled to rebel MPs, and in the process surrendered the future of his leadership to the demands of a few.
By abandoning what was a core principle, a climate change target, he has risked undermining his own moral authority. Abbott loyalists will decree that Turnbull is now the leader of an ostensibly Abbott government, at least on policy. Turnbull’s colleagues are understandably beginning to ask the central question: what is the point and purpose of a Turnbull-led Coalition government.
The contest of values has been tearing at the parliamentary party since Turnbull took the leadership. The simmering feud is now manifest in open hostility. But the PM confronts a Hobson’s choice. Believing his leadership is at stake, Turnbull has taken dramatic action. But at what price for the party? Abandoning company tax cuts is to jettison core Liberal policy and philosophy.
However, for the conservative forces now mounting against him, things have moved beyond the national energy guarantee, company tax and even a promise to fix the Catholic school funding crisis. The catalyst has been the failure of political management under Turnbull’s leadership.
Key people in his cabinet and the broader ministry have lost confidence in his judgment. Those close to Home Affairs Minister and conservative powerbroker Peter Dutton say a leadership challenge is almost assured. It is a question of timing. According to one: “Those who don’t like Turnbull want him gone and gone quickly; those who like Turnbull fear he will be gone and gone quickly.”
A defining moment has arrived for a decision between two competing ideas. Does the Liberal Party return to the conservative values that have provided the ballast for its most successful periods in government, aligned with a centre-right orthodoxy, or does it continue with the moderate, centrist experiment?At the heart of it are two interpretations of the Menzies era. Turnbull has argued that the founder of the modern Liberal Party was a moderate. Conservatives violently disagree. They are forced to this crossroad largely through human folly.
Two mistakes were made, one by Tony Abbott and another by Turnbull, both driven by their blind hatred of each other. Abbott should have made Turnbull his treasurer when he had the chance. It may not have protected his leadership over the long term but it would have almost certainly ensured Abbott would have led the Coalition to a second victory in the 2016 election.
Turnbull’s error was to never put Abbott in cabinet. This would have at least provided a level of insurance over his leadership.
As always, the greatest price of these perpetual struggles, which began with Labor a decade ago, is paid by the rest of us. If Turnbull loses his job, and he may well not, it will have been more than a decade since a prime minister, John Howard, has lasted long enough to serve a full term.
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And a COMMENT from the woman in the street.
Susan 1 HOUR AGO
I see Mr Benson, so nothing to do with what voters see as the long term damage that Malcolm Turnbull has already inflicted and will continue to do so if left as PM to this Nation with his Energy policy based on Targets as set/approved by a group of Foreign UNelected Elites (Paris agreement) that he did not ask nor was given a Mandate from the people to ratify and follow?
Set up this Farce of a NEG, try to legislate/regulate to allow Labor to further ratchet up the targets when they win the next election and I believe Turnbull knows full well that Labor WILL win?
Can we then talk about Turnbull co-authoring the Global Compact on Immigration which when signed up to would allow him to further ratchet up the ever increasing numbers of Non integrating immigration as required by the Soros backed UN, against the wishes of the Australian people or the majority of?
It makes sense that he would change Border Policy after making the statement on Q&A as Communications Minister that "PM Abbott's Sovereign Borders policy is Inhumane and Cruel" and after taking the PM post in an interview stating he would change the Immigration/Border Policy and would let us, the people know in due course-The sheer Arrogance.
Seems like everything Turnbull does is to the detriment of the Australian people, damaging Australia fast approaching the de-industrialisation of, therefore our livelihood, safety and security.
With all acts done in an underhanded and sneaky fashion thus is the arrogance that Turnbull has shown towards the people of Australia.
Yet you try to blame Abbott for not appointing Turnbull as his Treasurer.
Abbott did not hate Turnbull until he MT set the standard for behaviours and sunk to new lows, even worse than Labor lows.
Abbott still, as he always has, is doing what is in the best interest of everyday Aussies.
You know the working and energy poor......The damage that was done to Abbott, the undermining, leaking, white-anting, profiling was done solely internally by Turnbull as Communications Minister along with his allies the Wets.
It was not Liberal Party members, you do remember the base or what was once "The Base" did not want Abbott replaced and especially not by the likes of Turnbull and Co. but the so called Moderates (more like Green Labor left) of the party had taken control and after they had inflicted what they thought was enough damage on Abbott they took control and installed the "DUD" we have now.
First election after the coup and Turnbull lost every Abbott hard fought for win (seats) and some, only saved by the Nats 1 seat.
If Turnbull is left to contest as PM the next election you will see the complete demise of the once named Liberal Party and the end of a number of shining stars of the future in Liberal Conservative Politics which personally I think this is exactly what Turnbull wants.
To grow, be prosperous, safe, secure with our values intact Australia needs 2 distinct (major) parties and not 2 that are running within a shaved whisker of each other as we have under Turnbull.
Susan 1 HOUR AGO
I see Mr Benson, so nothing to do with what voters see as the long term damage that Malcolm Turnbull has already inflicted and will continue to do so if left as PM to this Nation with his Energy policy based on Targets as set/approved by a group of Foreign UNelected Elites (Paris agreement) that he did not ask nor was given a Mandate from the people to ratify and follow?
Set up this Farce of a NEG, try to legislate/regulate to allow Labor to further ratchet up the targets when they win the next election and I believe Turnbull knows full well that Labor WILL win?
Can we then talk about Turnbull co-authoring the Global Compact on Immigration which when signed up to would allow him to further ratchet up the ever increasing numbers of Non integrating immigration as required by the Soros backed UN, against the wishes of the Australian people or the majority of?
It makes sense that he would change Border Policy after making the statement on Q&A as Communications Minister that "PM Abbott's Sovereign Borders policy is Inhumane and Cruel" and after taking the PM post in an interview stating he would change the Immigration/Border Policy and would let us, the people know in due course-The sheer Arrogance.
Seems like everything Turnbull does is to the detriment of the Australian people, damaging Australia fast approaching the de-industrialisation of, therefore our livelihood, safety and security.
With all acts done in an underhanded and sneaky fashion thus is the arrogance that Turnbull has shown towards the people of Australia.
Yet you try to blame Abbott for not appointing Turnbull as his Treasurer.
Abbott did not hate Turnbull until he MT set the standard for behaviours and sunk to new lows, even worse than Labor lows.
Abbott still, as he always has, is doing what is in the best interest of everyday Aussies.
You know the working and energy poor......The damage that was done to Abbott, the undermining, leaking, white-anting, profiling was done solely internally by Turnbull as Communications Minister along with his allies the Wets.
It was not Liberal Party members, you do remember the base or what was once "The Base" did not want Abbott replaced and especially not by the likes of Turnbull and Co. but the so called Moderates (more like Green Labor left) of the party had taken control and after they had inflicted what they thought was enough damage on Abbott they took control and installed the "DUD" we have now.
First election after the coup and Turnbull lost every Abbott hard fought for win (seats) and some, only saved by the Nats 1 seat.
If Turnbull is left to contest as PM the next election you will see the complete demise of the once named Liberal Party and the end of a number of shining stars of the future in Liberal Conservative Politics which personally I think this is exactly what Turnbull wants.
To grow, be prosperous, safe, secure with our values intact Australia needs 2 distinct (major) parties and not 2 that are running within a shaved whisker of each other as we have under Turnbull.
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Re: 2GB just said Lib leadership challenge is on
Much intrigue is swirling around at Lib HQ. Even a leak about Dutto being ineligible. Is Dutto just organizing it all for Tony Abbott ?
Turnbull’s day of reckoning looms
Paul Bongiorno 7:25pm, Aug 20, 2018 Updated: 1h ago
Malcolm Turnbull. It seems nothing will save this doomed Prime Minister. Photo: Getty
The moment of reckoning for Malcolm Turnbull could come as early as Tuesday morning.
The chief government whip, Nola Marino on Monday afternoon cleared up confusion she had earlier caused by saying the meeting foreshadowed last week was off. A subsequent email confirmed a 9am gathering of Liberal members and senators.
Depending on who you believe, Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton either has the 43 members he needs to end Mr Turnbull’s embattled leadership, or he is close to it.
Make no mistake, a determined campaign is on to oust Mr Turnbull.
It started with media stories late last week. The Daily Telegraph reported worried Liberals were ready to push the “panic Dutton”.
Adding to the momentum was Monday’s Fairfax-Ipsos poll that showed the government heading for a thrashing. While some believe the 10-point Labor lead is an overstatement, no one believes the government is in a happy place.
Former prime minister Tony Abbott has been urging his colleagues to back Mr Dutton. At the weekend he told a Liberal meeting he was looking forward to a Dutton government, where no doubt he would be restored to the ministry.
While Mr Abbott went out of his way on Monday to tell reporters the battle over the national energy guarantee was about policy and not personalities, his plea lacks credibility.
On Saturday on Radio 2GB Mr Abbott criticised the Prime Minister for actually capitulating to one of his demands not to legislate a 26 per cent emissions reduction target.
“It’s no way to run a government making absolute commitments on Tuesday and breaking them on Friday,” he said.
On Monday, Mr Turnbull went the whole hog as it were, abandoning a key element of his NEG by saying he would neither legislate or regulate a target.
Former deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce welcomed the development as the death of the NEG. He is on the recent record saying Mr Turnbull should “reconsider his ability to lead the coalition to victory”.
But hacking down a sitting prime minister creates “turmoil” and “disturbance”, Mr Joyce warned on Monday. He appeared to be hinting at the difference between a bloody coup and Mr Turnbull gracefully bowing out.
Another agitator is Gary Spence, president of the Liberal National Party in Queensland, who has been urging his MPs who sit as Liberals in Canberra to ditch Mr Turnbull in favour of Mr Dutton.
The Prime Minister is well aware of the danger he is in and is in not game enough to provoke his critics. He rejected Labor’s offer to negotiate the NEG. He told Bill Shorten his invitation was not very persuasive.
“The honourable member will understand that in dealing with issues of this kind I will continue to confer with my colleagues,” he said.
Mr Shorten accused the PM of running away from his principles to save his own hide. It almost certainly will not. The shredding of his own credibility has weakened Mr Turnbull and done nothing to convince his naysayers to stick with him.
If no move is made at Tuesday’s meeting it certainly doesn’t mean the destabilisation is over. Rather it will continue with the lethal purpose of further damaging Mr Turnbull and the government in the polls, especially Newspoll.
Some believe a shift to Mr Dutton would save Queensland seats and possibly win two back, but not everyone is convinced. One interstate Liberal describes the idea as “madness”.
A Dutton-led government would be sure to make race and immigration a key focus of the election. His attacks on “African gangs” are a foretaste of what would be very brutal, if not ugly, campaign.
It is clear a growing number of Liberals believe Mr Dutton would play to voters fears and prejudices more effectively than Mr Turnbull.
No one, though, has turned their minds to how Mr Dutton will withstand the intense scrutiny a new leader gets.
Case in point, Monday night’s report on Ten News raising questions about his eligibility to even be in the Parliament.
But it won’t save Malcolm Turnbull.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/nationa ... ing-looms/
Turnbull’s day of reckoning looms
Paul Bongiorno 7:25pm, Aug 20, 2018 Updated: 1h ago
Malcolm Turnbull. It seems nothing will save this doomed Prime Minister. Photo: Getty
The moment of reckoning for Malcolm Turnbull could come as early as Tuesday morning.
The chief government whip, Nola Marino on Monday afternoon cleared up confusion she had earlier caused by saying the meeting foreshadowed last week was off. A subsequent email confirmed a 9am gathering of Liberal members and senators.
Depending on who you believe, Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton either has the 43 members he needs to end Mr Turnbull’s embattled leadership, or he is close to it.
Make no mistake, a determined campaign is on to oust Mr Turnbull.
It started with media stories late last week. The Daily Telegraph reported worried Liberals were ready to push the “panic Dutton”.
Adding to the momentum was Monday’s Fairfax-Ipsos poll that showed the government heading for a thrashing. While some believe the 10-point Labor lead is an overstatement, no one believes the government is in a happy place.
Former prime minister Tony Abbott has been urging his colleagues to back Mr Dutton. At the weekend he told a Liberal meeting he was looking forward to a Dutton government, where no doubt he would be restored to the ministry.
While Mr Abbott went out of his way on Monday to tell reporters the battle over the national energy guarantee was about policy and not personalities, his plea lacks credibility.
On Saturday on Radio 2GB Mr Abbott criticised the Prime Minister for actually capitulating to one of his demands not to legislate a 26 per cent emissions reduction target.
“It’s no way to run a government making absolute commitments on Tuesday and breaking them on Friday,” he said.
On Monday, Mr Turnbull went the whole hog as it were, abandoning a key element of his NEG by saying he would neither legislate or regulate a target.
Former deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce welcomed the development as the death of the NEG. He is on the recent record saying Mr Turnbull should “reconsider his ability to lead the coalition to victory”.
But hacking down a sitting prime minister creates “turmoil” and “disturbance”, Mr Joyce warned on Monday. He appeared to be hinting at the difference between a bloody coup and Mr Turnbull gracefully bowing out.
Another agitator is Gary Spence, president of the Liberal National Party in Queensland, who has been urging his MPs who sit as Liberals in Canberra to ditch Mr Turnbull in favour of Mr Dutton.
The Prime Minister is well aware of the danger he is in and is in not game enough to provoke his critics. He rejected Labor’s offer to negotiate the NEG. He told Bill Shorten his invitation was not very persuasive.
“The honourable member will understand that in dealing with issues of this kind I will continue to confer with my colleagues,” he said.
Mr Shorten accused the PM of running away from his principles to save his own hide. It almost certainly will not. The shredding of his own credibility has weakened Mr Turnbull and done nothing to convince his naysayers to stick with him.
If no move is made at Tuesday’s meeting it certainly doesn’t mean the destabilisation is over. Rather it will continue with the lethal purpose of further damaging Mr Turnbull and the government in the polls, especially Newspoll.
Some believe a shift to Mr Dutton would save Queensland seats and possibly win two back, but not everyone is convinced. One interstate Liberal describes the idea as “madness”.
A Dutton-led government would be sure to make race and immigration a key focus of the election. His attacks on “African gangs” are a foretaste of what would be very brutal, if not ugly, campaign.
It is clear a growing number of Liberals believe Mr Dutton would play to voters fears and prejudices more effectively than Mr Turnbull.
No one, though, has turned their minds to how Mr Dutton will withstand the intense scrutiny a new leader gets.
Case in point, Monday night’s report on Ten News raising questions about his eligibility to even be in the Parliament.
But it won’t save Malcolm Turnbull.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/nationa ... ing-looms/
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All you never wanted to know about PM Dutton.
Dutton worked as a detective in the drug squad and sex offender’s unit. Not quite pedestrian control at lunchtime.
27 Things You Need To Know About Peter Dutton (The Man Who Could Be Our Next Prime Minister). Let's check the tape.
Alice Workman BuzzFeed News Reporter, Australia Posted on August 20, 2018, at 5:06 p.m.
1. Meet Peter Craig Dutton. He's the Liberal member for Dickson in Queensland and widely speculated to be the man most likely to challenge prime minister Malcolm Turnbull for the top job.
Lukas Coch / AAPIMAGE
After the Coalition's disastrous result in Longman in the Super Saturday by-elections, there is a possibility that Dutton could lose his seat at the next election.
“There’s something quite noble in coming forward to steer the party away from possible election defeat,” is how one pro-change conservative put it to BuzzFeed News.
Think Kevin Rudd in 2013 trying to save the furniture.
Dutton told 2GB radio on Thursday that: “I’m not going to be part of the cabinet and then bag the prime minister out.
Now, if my position changes – that is, I get to a point where I can’t accept what the government’s proposing, or I don’t agree – then the Westminster system is very clear.
You resign your commission, you don’t serve in that cabinet. And you make that very clear in a respectful way.”Leaving many to ask — is it on?
2. Only 10.5% of people polled by ReachTEL last year thought that Dutton would make the best Liberal prime minister.
3. Dutton was born on November 18, 1970 to childcare worker Ailsa Leitch and builder Bruce Dutton.
Mick Tsikas / AAPIMAGE
He grew up in the northern Brisbane suburb of Boondall with three siblings.
Dutton described his family in his first speech as a "typical, small business, middle-class family". His great grandparents started a dairy farm in northern Brisbane in the 1860s.
4. Dutton studied a bachelor of business at Queensland University of Technology before working as a police officer from 1990 to 1999.
Lukas Coch / AAPIMAGE
He worked as a detective in the drug squad and sex offender’s unit, but left to join his father's building business.ely to challenge prime minister Malcolm Turnbull for the top job.
Read the other 23 info points about Australia's next PM here
https://www.buzzfeed.com/aliceworkman/2 ... .myPJDP0wG
Dutton worked as a detective in the drug squad and sex offender’s unit. Not quite pedestrian control at lunchtime.
27 Things You Need To Know About Peter Dutton (The Man Who Could Be Our Next Prime Minister). Let's check the tape.
Alice Workman BuzzFeed News Reporter, Australia Posted on August 20, 2018, at 5:06 p.m.
1. Meet Peter Craig Dutton. He's the Liberal member for Dickson in Queensland and widely speculated to be the man most likely to challenge prime minister Malcolm Turnbull for the top job.
Lukas Coch / AAPIMAGE
After the Coalition's disastrous result in Longman in the Super Saturday by-elections, there is a possibility that Dutton could lose his seat at the next election.
“There’s something quite noble in coming forward to steer the party away from possible election defeat,” is how one pro-change conservative put it to BuzzFeed News.
Think Kevin Rudd in 2013 trying to save the furniture.
Dutton told 2GB radio on Thursday that: “I’m not going to be part of the cabinet and then bag the prime minister out.
Now, if my position changes – that is, I get to a point where I can’t accept what the government’s proposing, or I don’t agree – then the Westminster system is very clear.
You resign your commission, you don’t serve in that cabinet. And you make that very clear in a respectful way.”Leaving many to ask — is it on?
2. Only 10.5% of people polled by ReachTEL last year thought that Dutton would make the best Liberal prime minister.
3. Dutton was born on November 18, 1970 to childcare worker Ailsa Leitch and builder Bruce Dutton.
Mick Tsikas / AAPIMAGE
He grew up in the northern Brisbane suburb of Boondall with three siblings.
Dutton described his family in his first speech as a "typical, small business, middle-class family". His great grandparents started a dairy farm in northern Brisbane in the 1860s.
4. Dutton studied a bachelor of business at Queensland University of Technology before working as a police officer from 1990 to 1999.
Lukas Coch / AAPIMAGE
He worked as a detective in the drug squad and sex offender’s unit, but left to join his father's building business.ely to challenge prime minister Malcolm Turnbull for the top job.
Read the other 23 info points about Australia's next PM here
https://www.buzzfeed.com/aliceworkman/2 ... .myPJDP0wG
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