Intervention changes

[Auzgurl]

I love the smell napalm in the morning.

a well known saying, but what does napalm smell like ?

Do you carry a gun Frogen ( I saw that in another thread )

[Auzgurl]

In my mind perhaps the one good thing Howard ever did, even tho his primary purpose was not saving the Aborigine but more his own Political neck...

Funny how things work out sometimes , and doesnt matter so much about the how, just as long as it does.

Intervention is the only thing the Aborigine understands and responds to, its all he knows, it goes back to Colonisation .

That is a very sad fact.

[boxy]

Do you really think that Howard approved this "intervention" for populist reasons?

This type of thing, where you have to suspend the racial discrimination act, would obviously not be popular in our current "enlightened" society. Only an inept politician would do it for superficial reasons.

If you want to keep the "abo" down, you keep serving up the grog. If you want to try to help, without regard for political correctness, you say, "no more grog for you".

[Auzgurl]

Do you really think that Howard approved this "intervention" for populist reasons?

yes

And yes I firmly believe he was totally inept in matters of Social Policy.
If you think for one minute he launched the intervention for any reason other then the fact he was destitute, and pratically dead rotten and forgotten in the electorate, then I cannot agree with you.

Your analogy is simplistic boxy, and as its very late here ( DLS) I'm off to bed I'll ponder this further tomorrow.

[boxy]

Wow... something seems to be working, and it was introduced because the leader of the moment was 'politically destitute'.

Perhaps we should put more people into positions of power, and give them no way back...

[JW.Frogen]

His far more successful policy against people smuggling worked too. But that is because he was racist, we all know that?

Howard, he was such a bad evil man, I am glad he is gone becuase he seemed to do things that usually worked.

I hate things that work.

I hate work.

[Rainbow Moonlight]

How do you know it worked? If he caught less people trying to come in then maybe that is because MORE people actually got in illegally. I think his gun laws were his crowning (though very early) achievement. I would expect conservatives to think highly of the introduction of the GST. A few of the bad things he did I think include measures he took with welfare restriction that were in my view just mean - too numerous to recall them all- the decision to take us into Iraq with Bush, and the failure to support farmers soon enough in very hard hitting drought.

[Auzgurl]

Can you say that the intervention worked after such a short period of time, I dont think so..It will take quite a few years of successive Govts actually sustaining and committing to this very long term plan.

Gun laws actually havent achieved much either, there are still an awful lot of guns in the community, still a lot of shootings etc , and still relatively easy to aquire a license even now , I have inquired. A friend of mine has about 4 firearms in his possession, he doesnt use them .

So it takes some time to see these Policies show their worth,and so it will be with the NT Intervention..

[JW.Frogen]

How do you know it worked? If he caught less people trying to come in then maybe that is because MORE people actually got in illegally. I think his gun laws were his crowning (though very early) achievement. I would expect conservatives to think highly of the introduction of the GST. A few of the bad things he did I think include measures he took with welfare restriction that were in my view just mean - too numerous to recall them all- the decision to take us into Iraq with Bush, and the failure to support farmers soon enough in very hard hitting drought.

I don't think there is any serious thought that under Howard people smugglers got a lot of people into this country without us knowing it, we do not the tide is increasing to our shores however since Labor dumped his policy.

[Rainbow Moonlight]

Maybe Howard just controlled the information we got or didn't go looking for illegal boats. It would be easy using those methods to manufacture an apparent decrease in numbers wouldn't it? I don't think there is anyway of knowing for sure.