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Re: Socialism

Post by Redneck » Wed May 23, 2018 12:40 pm

All you bloody righties deserve what you get!

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Re: Socialism

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Wed May 23, 2018 1:39 pm

mellie wrote:
Outlaw Yogi wrote:Socialism is nothing more than a neo-poofy euphemism for communism, which is a thief regime, or kleptocracy if you prefer.
That is where you penalise the industrious for being successful, and reward the inept for being slothful and incompetent.
Their current modus operandi is to cripple industry/businesses with unwarranted costs and compliance regimes and normalise the perverted, so their is no incentive to generate income and common sense is prohibited.

What these moonbat pinkos fail to realise is that by killing the goose that lays the golden eggs, they are ultimately cutting their own throats.
When the major industries decide it's not worth operating in this country any more, union membership (except for public servants) will dry up because small business employees and the self employed don't join union extortion groups. Then when the remainder of unionised work force occupations are mechanised by robots the compulsory superannuation ponzi will implode.

While I refrain from participation in share market gambling myself, I have to agree with Chris Corrigan's comments in the Weekend Australian concerning quotas for women on public company boards ... his sentiment (and mine) being that appointing women because their women as opposed to skill or merit breeds corruption through incompetence.

I also note he has a similar rationale to mine on such matters ... that it's not worth wasting energy fighting a lost cause, so just quit/resign and let it fail on its own lack of merit.
And Yogi, I agree with you mostly, just think it's,a tad brash.

If we're to lure the minorities from the commies, we need to be gentle.

Respectful.
Hey Mel, you're far from the first to infer I should tone down the bluntness of my arguments/positions.
For example while a Greens delegate to state council and conferences I was forever having to moderate and apologise for a lack of sensitivity.
Well I'm sick of having to pander to the queer correctness of snow flakes.
In fact it is my experience that those who take offense do so because they're guilty.

I'm not concerned with luring minorities from the grip of commies ... just let the commies phuk them over like they do everyone else and those minorities will become as rabidly anti-commy as me.

Respect is an over used term for what generally amounts to humouring and platitudes.
Genuine respect must be earnt, not handed out like lollies from a shopping mall Santa.
Being gentle just elicits their contempt.
If Donald Trump is so close to the Ruskis, why couldn't he get Vladimir Putin to put novichok in Xi Jjinping's lipstick?

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Re: Socialism

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Wed May 23, 2018 1:47 pm

brian ross wrote:
Outlaw Yogi wrote:Socialism is nothing more than a neo-poofy euphemism for communism, which is a thief regime, or kleptocracy if you prefer.
You may prefer to believe that but you are mistaken if you do. There are considerable differences between modern Communism and modern Socialism. Communism is imposed on a society, invariably by a small vanguard revolutionary group. Socialism is invariably a voluntary movement which a society subscribes to.
Well the population of socialist Venezuela is in open revolt, yet the admin continues to impose the collectivist ideal, so that sort of kicks your prognostication in the guts.
If Donald Trump is so close to the Ruskis, why couldn't he get Vladimir Putin to put novichok in Xi Jjinping's lipstick?

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Re: Socialism

Post by Malcolm_hates_your_kids » Wed May 23, 2018 1:57 pm

mellie wrote:Leftys have infiltrated our educational institutions. I'm refreshing at ACU Ballarat , so waiting to see if this is different to USYD.

Hoping.

:Hi

Otherwise, I'll probably get some stick too.
Go stick :rofl
Stop making things worse! :pope

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Re: Socialism

Post by WellWisher » Thu May 24, 2018 8:03 am

Neferti~ wrote:Got this via email. Thought I would share.
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that, until recently, he had never failed a single student before but, more recently, had failed an entire class.
That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class based on Obama's plan". Substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by everyone here - all grades will be averaged, meaning everyone will receive the same grade. No one will fail, but no one will receive an A....

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little
had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too, so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and
name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because, when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great. But when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.

These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read, and all are applicable to this experiment:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
This sounds like someone read the Zen of motorcycle maintenance and made up a Obama story :thumb

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Re: Socialism

Post by Neferti » Thu May 24, 2018 9:13 am

WellWisher wrote:
Neferti~ wrote:Got this via email. Thought I would share.
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that, until recently, he had never failed a single student before but, more recently, had failed an entire class.
That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class based on Obama's plan". Substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by everyone here - all grades will be averaged, meaning everyone will receive the same grade. No one will fail, but no one will receive an A....

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little
had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too, so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and
name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because, when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great. But when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.

These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read, and all are applicable to this experiment:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
This sounds like someone read the Zen of motorcycle maintenance and made up a Obama story :thumb
You could be correct. I did NOT write it, somebody sent it to me via email. :roll I posted it to get a debate going and that seems to have worked since we are up to Page 4 or 5. :o

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Re: Socialism

Post by WellWisher » Thu May 24, 2018 9:32 am

yes its a interesting thread... its all about the definition of quality :thumb

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Re: Socialism

Post by sprintcyclist » Thu May 24, 2018 10:36 am

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.


I agree with these ideas
Right Wing is the Natural Progression.

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Re: Socialism

Post by WellWisher » Thu May 24, 2018 12:23 pm

sprintcyclist wrote:1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.


I agree with these ideas
so if someone looses their job and no jobs r around.. how does he provide for his family...... Theft and risk of imprisonment not to mention loss of self worth , his family has to eat. What do u propose ?

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Re: Socialism

Post by sprintcyclist » Thu May 24, 2018 12:59 pm

Start his or her own small business
Right Wing is the Natural Progression.

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