Administrative Appeals Tribunal

[brian ross]

You don't consider rape and murder serious Brian?

Not sufficient to revoke their citizenship, no. You simply cannot jettison people because you find their actions distasteful, BO. You cannot make them "stateless" without a very, very, very, good reason. It devalues the concept of citizenship as I have already stated.

[brian ross]

Citizenship can only be revoked in the absolutely, most serious of circumstances. The AAT is correct IMO in it's assessments of these people retaining Australian citizenship. You cannot just jettison people because you find their actions distasteful. It runs counter to the concepts of citizenship.

Would you think it would be morally reprehensible to deport these criminals... some of them serial criminals?

Considering how Australia was initially established, yes I would. You simply cannot jettison people because of how you feel about them. They committed their crimes here, they should serve their time here, they are Australia's problem.

[Black Orchid]

You don't consider rape and murder serious Brian?

Not sufficient to revoke their citizenship, no. You simply cannot jettison people because you find their actions distasteful, BO. You cannot make them "stateless" without a very, very, very, good reason. It devalues the concept of citizenship as I have already stated.

I find rape and murder somewhat more than "distasteful" Brian. I can barely believe you even said that.

Tell me, what do you consider to be a serious crime?

[brian ross]

If one of these crims who should have been deported were to harm somebody I care about, I'd hold the decision makers at the tribunal responsible.

So, how would you hold them, "responsible", Gordon?

You appear to believe we should make our problems someone else's problems. How irresponsible of you. Hardly unusual though...

[brian ross]

You don't consider rape and murder serious Brian?

Not sufficient to revoke their citizenship, no. You simply cannot jettison people because you find their actions distasteful, BO. You cannot make them "stateless" without a very, very, very, good reason. It devalues the concept of citizenship as I have already stated.

I find rape and murder somewhat more than "distasteful" Brian. I can barely believe you even said that.

Tell me, what do you consider to be a serious crime?

Treason, betrayal, things that actually harm the nation, not individuals. As distasteful as rape and murder are, they are on a human scale and are hurting individuals. Harm to the nation and it's interests are far more serious, BO. Sufficiently serious to show that person does not believe in it.

[IQS.RLOW]

Treason, betrayal, things that actually harm the nation, not individuals. As distasteful as rape and murder are, they are on a human scale and are hurting individuals. Harm to the nation and it's interests are far more serious, BO. Sufficiently serious to show that person does not believe in it.

That would put yourself ahead of them in the queue of most deserved for export to fuckoffistan.

I guess thats what is referred to as a silver lining...

[Alinta]

In today's Herald Sun, there is a listing and precis of the 164 AAT applicants since 2010 who have avoided deportation.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-or ... 04dda788c7

For those interested and unable to access the link, does anyone wish me to post the list/precis?

[Black Orchid]

In today's Herald Sun, there is a listing and precis of the 164 AAT applicants since 2010 who have avoided deportation.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-or ... 04dda788c7

For those interested and unable to access the link, does anyone wish me to post the list/precis?

Paywall for me so yes please Alinta.

[Alinta]

THESE are the 164 cases in the past eight years where the Administrative Appeals Tribunal has saved criminals from deportation, indefinite immigration detention, or, in a few instances, allowed them into Australia, by overturning decisions made by delegates for the immigration minister to either cancel the visas of the criminals or refuse to grant them one. The AAT has used pseudonyms in some cases.

CASES SO FAR IN 2018:
BFXK

Indian who arrived in Australia in 1997 on a temporary visa. His application for a protection visa was denied and he has been an unlawful non-citizen on three separate occasions since then due to not holding a current visa. Has convictions for domestic violence — including assault occasioning actual bodily harm — and several driving offences, including driving while suspended and drink-driving.

PEDRO FERNANDES

Brazilian with convictions for armed robbery, violence offences, shoplifting, destroy or damage property and drink driving.

TONY CAMPBELL

New Zealander with convictions for drug dealing and driving offences.

NIMA AZIZI

Drug addicted Iranian doctor who claimed to have converted from Islam to Christianity. He falsely prescribed himself drugs while working in Australian hospitals and made false statements to do so.

RAMON HOWARD JOHN MAHU

New Zealander with several convictions for possessing illegal drugs with the intent to sell or supply those drugs, as well as convictions for assault, criminal damage, escape from custody and disorderly behaviour.

CBYQ

Nationality not disclosed. Was granted a temporary partner visa in July 2013 after marrying an Australian woman. They separated six months later. Has convictions for violence and breaching court orders. Continued to live in Australia as an unlawful non-citizen after his visa expired. Claims he would be subjected to harm if deported because he is bisexual and was charged in his homeland with an offence related to homosexuality.

VASILIOS MAIKANTIS

Gambling addicted Greek drug dealer convicted of 50 offences during 27 court appearances between 1977 and 2016, including for cultivating a commercial quantity of cannabis and drug trafficking.

RATU MELI KOYADRADRA ULUIKAVORO QORO

Fijian with convictions for assault, drink-driving and breaching court orders.

GXNY

Iraqi citizen whose application for a protection visa was rejected by a delegate for the immigration minister after GXNY pleaded guilty to supplying a prohibited drug.

FTYC

Cambodian drug mule who was jailed for seven years and six months after she smuggled heroin into Australia.

DAVID GORDON

New Zealander with a long list of weapons and drug offences, including being jailed for three years and six months for drug trafficking.

BHKM

Ice-addicted Philippines national who argued his drug use and convictions for robbery, assault and reckless wounding would see him killed at the hands of the Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte if he was deported.

MICHAEL JAYBA

Sudanese man with convictions for assault occasioning actual bodily harm, breaching court orders and three drink-driving offences.

MAH

A Muslim Iraqi father of seven who pretended to be a gay Christian to try to avoid deportation racked up almost 30 convictions, including for assault and theft, since arriving in Australia by boat in 1999.

JL. New Zealander with convictions for armed robbery, break and enter, assault and failing for 14 years to turn himself in to authorities after breaching his parole conditions.

GAVIN FURLONG

Irishman with convictions for disorderly conduct, giving a false name to police, assault, drink-driving, dangerous driving, failing to stop and assist after a crash and using obscene and indecent language.

[Alinta]

CASES IN 2017:
FINIAN EGAN

Irish paedophile priest who was convicted of raping a teenage girl and committing several serious sexual assaults against two other girls aged under 17.

SHANE HODSON

UK citizen with convictions for assault occasioning actual bodily harm, common assault, assault with intent to resist arrest, assault police, shoplifting, dangerous driving and possessing illegal drugs.

JAGDEEP SINGH

Indian taxi driver who sexually assaulted a female passenger.


Convicted paedophile priest Finian Egan arrives at Ryde Police station in Sydney.
AHMET CANDEMIR

A Turkish drug dealer with multiple convictions for peddling drugs, including commercial quantities of ice and heroin.

HDMN

New Zealander. Lied on his immigration forms by not revealing his criminal record. Has convictions for robbery, assault, assaulting police, stalking, possession of illegal drugs, selling illegal drugs and resisting arrest.

SHANZAD IRANI

Indian who lied on his immigration forms by not revealing his criminal record. Has convictions for serious driving offences including drink-driving and driving while disqualified.

DEAN MOLLOY

Irishman with convictions for possessing a trafficable quantity of illegal drugs, breach of bail, supplying illegal drugs, drink-driving and driving while unlicensed.

VICTOR RANDALLS

Irishman with convictions for assault, threatening behaviour, assault police and several driving offences. He lied on immigration forms by not revealing his convictions.

WXDX

Arrived in Australia from an undisclosed country as an unauthorised maritime arrival. A delegate for the immigration minter refused WXDX’s application for a bridging visa as he failed to pass the character test on the grounds of his domestic and family violence history and that if he was allowed to stay in Australia there was a risk he would harass, molest, intimidate or stalk another person.

PKJT

New Zealander jailed for four years and three months after being convicted of robbery in company causing wounding and while on parole for that offence he was convicted of destroying property.

KDSP

Citizen of Afghanistan who arrived in Australia in 2013 as an unauthorised marital arrival. Granted a temporary humanitarian stay visa and later a bridging visa. He was later convicted of two assault charges and contravening an apprehended violence order.

RAMY HENIN

Egyptian with convictions for assault, failing to answer bail and breaching a community correction order.

AHMED ESHAG ELNOR AHMED

Sudanese man who arrived in Australia in 2006 and was granted a refugee visa. Has never worked in Australia. His status as a disability support pensioner provides him with a fortnightly benefit of about $800. His lengthy criminal record includes several assault convictions, stalking, assault police, threats to kill, possessing stolen goods, possessing illegal drugs, theft and dealing with the proceeds of crime.

PHNR

Sex offending Iraqi who arrived in Australia as an unauthorised maritime arrival in 2012. While in immigration detention in Nauru he was convicted of two counts of indecent assault committed on a Nauruan woman. He also took part in a riot at the detention centre and admitted throwing rocks at police.

CCGW

Cook Islander with convictions for robbery and violence, including assault police, resisting arrest, breaking entering and stealing and breaching parole.

SLAIMEN DAYOUB

Lebanese man with convictions for assault, stalking with intent to intimidate and destroying property.

KIT LING IRENE KWOK

Ms Kwok appealed against a decision by a delegate for the immigration minister to refuse to grant a visa to her Hong Kong born mother Shik Ye Fong. Ms Fong was extradited to Hong Kong from Sydney and later pleaded guilty to 26 charges of theft and fraud.

VIET HOANG NGUYEN

Vietnamese drug trafficker convicted of importing a commercial quantity of pseudoephedrine.

JOSEPH KANE ENGI

New Zealander with convictions for assault, theft, drink-driving, being in possession of stolen goods and breaching bail conditions.

KRYSTAL TRIKILIS

She appealed against the decision not to grant her Palestinian husband a partner visa so he could join her in Sydney. Her husband, identified by the AAT only as Mr Khalil, was convicted in an Israeli military court of being a member of the Islamic terrorist group the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade and “conspiracy to cause intentional death”. The court jailed him for 34 months. Mr Khalil was accused of making and planting a bomb and attempting to recruit a suicide bomber. He admitted lying on his application to migrate to Australia by not declaring his convictions.

QUANG QUYET BUI

Vietnamese man convicted of cultivating cannabis after police raided his home and found a sophisticated hydroponic cannabis growing system operating in almost every room.

CASE NUMBER 1702551

Apex gang member from New Zealand with convictions in Australia for assaulting a police officer, resisting a police officer, assaulting an emergency worker, robbery, recklessly causing injury, breach of probation, theft, use cannabis, possess cannabis and obtaining property by deception.

FAISAL ALAM

Was ordered out of Australia after he posed as an official of the Australian Immigration Department to con fellow Bangladeshis out of more than $87,000 they paid into an account controlled by him in return for him supposedly helping them get visas. Alam was jailed over the fraud after pleading guilty to making a false Commonwealth document and falsely representing himself to be an Australian Commonwealth official.

HAKAN OZER

Violent Turkish man who was given a spouse visa so he could come to Australia to take part in an arranged marriage. That marriage lasted 20 days. Ozer’s visa was cancelled after he pleaded guilty to aggravated burglary, recklessly causing injury and threatening to kill.

NDFN

Malaysian with convictions for assaulting police, assault with a weapon and drink-driving.

WCJS. Bangladeshi with convictions for assault.

MOHAMAD ZBIB

Lebanese man who lied on his Australian immigration forms in 2005, 2008 and 2010 by failing to disclose his conviction in Lebanon for committing an indecent act, described as “molestation of a minor”, for which he was jailed for two years. Also convicted in Australia of drink-driving and unlicensed driving.

TALAL SOUEID

Lebanese citizen jailed for two years after he was convicted of robbery armed with an offensive weapon.

RAMESH CHAND

Fijian convicted of embezzlement.

VISHAL BHARDWAJ

Indian convicted of violent offences. He also forged a document and fraudulently applied his wife’s signature to a document to facilitate release of his wife’s medical information and then published it on Facebook. He later acknowledged publication of that personal data would bring shame and embarrassment to his wife and her family.

LQVM

Vietnamese who was jailed for four years and three months after pleading guilty to several drug related crimes, including theft, cultivation of cannabis by hydroponic means in her home and trafficking in heroin and ice. She also used her teenage son as an interpreter and on at least one occasion he handled a foil containing drugs and gave them to a drug syndicate customer.

LUKE HAZELHURST

UK citizen who failed to reveal his criminal history when entering Australia in 2016. Has convictions for assault, obtaining property by deception, theft and several driving offences.

ONG CHIN JUI DENISON

Malaysian jailed for 18 months after being convicted of causing grievous bodily harm and taking part in an affray. The victim received several injuries, including a brain injury. Has other convictions for assault and disturbing the peace by fighting.