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Re: Private or Public Schools?

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:29 pm

Whilst there are schools which push programs like the Safe Schools Program there will be parents pushing against it. Schools need to get back to basics and teach what is important.

Whilst cooking etc is good for some it is a most basic element which can easily be taught at home. Maths, English, Science etc should be taught by those with degrees who are supposed to be there to do exactly that.

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Post by mellie » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:38 pm

Black Orchid wrote:Whilst there are schools which push programs like the Safe Schools Program there will be parents pushing against it. Schools need to get back to basics and teach what is important.

Whilst cooking etc is good for some it is a most basic element which can easily be taught at home. Maths, English, Science etc should be taught by those with degrees who are supposed to be there to do exactly that.
I beg to differ here.

Fine motor skills, mathematics, reading, measuring, cooperation, feeling satisfied and proud of end product.

New ways to learning fundamentals isn't all bad BO.

Each kids different, but all enjoyed making intricate parcels and measuring and counting ingredients.

Talking foundations in prep here BO. Not 4 unit physics.

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Post by Black Orchid » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:49 pm

Our children are all different and they all have different needs which is why it is up to the parent to identify these needs and hence the basis of the topic.

Both my kids are highly mathematically inclined and although they both did a small cooking component in Year 7 (as most do) they would have gone nuts measuring ingredients ad infinitum and would have just tuned out from boredom and wagged school.

There really is no comparison between maths extension and cooking/measuring ingredients. Like I said, it depends on what the child needs and I can easily teach them to cook at home but I was not as confident in teaching them advanced calculus, nor should I have even attempted it.

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Post by Black Orchid » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:21 pm

mellie wrote:Parent's need to work with the system, not against it in order for their children to develop positive attitudes towards learning and school.

Alternatively, perhaps these whinging parents should teach their children themselves?
Equally, parents of special needs children should not be placing them in schools who don't necessarily cater to special needs children and then seeking to have extra staff employed in order to cater to the minority?

I am not saying you did that but many parents do and expect the school to change to suit them.

It works both ways.

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Post by mellie » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:25 pm

Whatever works BO.

And what we are doing is working well for us, as can be demonstrated by our lack of whinging about our children's school.

Not that I think you're whinging about your kid's school BO.


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Post by Black Orchid » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:26 pm

My kids don't go to school so I would be hard pressed whinging about it :lol:

I believe the purpose of the topic was to toss around ideas about suitability and not to whinge about their current circumstances?

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Post by mellie » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:32 pm

Black Orchid wrote:My kids don't go to school so I would be hard pressed whinging about it :lol:
Thing's have come a long way in the last couple of decades. I think public schools are friendlier and more inclusive.

My eldest two went through during the 2000s... I can tell you as a multigenerational mumma, thing's are so much better since then.

My eldest is 23, youngest 5.

Trust me when I tell you, we are getting there.

My eldest children went to both private and public schools, which I found to be about on par academically, though inclusiveness wise, the public schools had at least some form of policy.

I was advised by my eldest daughter's principle at her Catholic primary school that no particular program would be extended, because in the eyes of God, all children were equal. The private schools don't mind taking the department's funding for such children with special needs however.
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Re: Private or Public Schools?

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:46 pm

Ummm it hasn't been a couple of decades since my kids were at school :shock: :rofl

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Post by mellie » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:48 pm

Needless to say, I then placed her into the public system which was a mainstream school with a support unit.

See, in QLD where well meaning Pauline Hanson comes from, the system stinks.
A good friend of mine who lives in Ipswich is in the throngs of removing her son from prep and home schooling him herself.
Sad, because he needs the social factor and my friend isn't qualified to teach.
I think what's required is consistency across the nation for public and private education policy.

Though in QLD, they've always liked to do thing's a bit differently. Defiantly almost.
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Re: Private or Public Schools?

Post by mellie » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:55 pm

See. Her little boy isn't coping in mainstream, but their designated specialist school is filled with profoundly disabled kids, ie down syndrome.

Her son's school won't provide an aid apparently.

Public or private. I think my QLD friend would be faced with the same dilemma.

QLD needs to lift their game. They're behind the time's and seem to be caught in a time warp education wise.
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