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Nicole
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by Nicole » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:48 am
I have taken the quote below from this thread
http://www.ozpolitic.com/polanimal/view ... f1e#p22575, so that it stays on topic, and am replying to it here where I believe it belongs.
@ Brian:
I believe everybody deserves a fair chance, individually. Otherwise you're just being bigotted
Do Nazi's deserve a fair chance, individually? How about Hell's Angel's?
Everyone stereotypes, Brian. It's natural and innate and designed to keep us safe.
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:58 pm
Mistress Nicole wrote:I have taken the quote below from this thread
http://www.ozpolitic.com/polanimal/view ... f1e#p22575, so that it stays on topic, and am replying to it here where I believe it belongs.
@ Brian:
I believe everybody deserves a fair chance, individually. Otherwise you're just being bigotted
Do Nazi's deserve a fair chance, individually? How about Hell's Angel's?
Everyone stereotypes, Brian. It's natural and innate and designed to keep us safe.
I've known individual Nazis and Hell's Angels. They've been OK, individually, "Nicole". I've never been in the position where either has had power over me, though, I am quite willing to admit. Stereotyping is not natural. It requires conscious effort to create this fantasy that you are subscribing to. It is like proclaiming all Muslims are Terrorists. It is untrue and stupid, "Nicole". It is demonstrably false.
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:05 pm
I have never seen anyone say that all Muslims are terrorists. All I have seen are people accusing them of saying that when, in fact, they have not.
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:06 pm
Massive bollards are going up around Sydney for Anzac Day because of threats by guess who?
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Nicole
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by Nicole » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:54 pm
So Brian, lets return to the original analogy:
All human beings stereotype. It's innate. So if for example I walk past an alleyway and see two little old ladies down there, in twin sets and pearls, there is no need to "keep alert and quiet" because in an instance I stereotype little old ladies as no threat. However, if I walk past that same alleyway, and see 2 hells angel's bikies in leathers, I keep "alert and quiet", because I immediately stereotype them as a threat?
Do you react to the two little old ladies in the same way you react to the Hell's Angel's, Brian?
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:18 pm
Black Orchid wrote:I have never seen anyone say that all Muslims are terrorists. All I have seen are people accusing them of saying that when, in fact, they have not.
Did I accuse anybody here of saying that, BO? No, I did not. So why do you assume I did? Erecting a Strawman Argument? I hope not.
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:20 pm
Mistress Nicole wrote:So Brian, lets return to the original analogy:
All human beings stereotype. It's innate. So if for example I walk past an alleyway and see two little old ladies down there, in twin sets and pearls, there is no need to "keep alert and quiet" because in an instance I stereotype little old ladies as no threat. However, if I walk past that same alleyway, and see 2 hells angel's bikies in leathers, I keep "alert and quiet", because I immediately stereotype them as a threat?
Do you react to the two little old ladies in the same way you react to the Hell's Angel's, Brian?
As I have said, I have known Hells Angels. They didn't look like the stereotypical Hells Angels. If I saw anybody lurking down a dark alley, I would be wary of them, "Nicole". Why do you assume I am sexist and believe little old ladies are benign?
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:35 pm
brian ross wrote:Black Orchid wrote:I have never seen anyone say that all Muslims are terrorists. All I have seen are people accusing them of saying that when, in fact, they have not.
Did I accuse anybody here of saying that, BO? No, I did not. So why do you assume I did? Erecting a Strawman Argument? I hope not.
I have not seen you accuse anyone of saying that specifically but you mentioned it here ...
I've known individual Nazis and Hell's Angels. They've been OK, individually, "Nicole". I've never been in the position where either has had power over me, though, I am quite willing to admit. Stereotyping is not natural. It requires conscious effort to create this fantasy that you are subscribing to. It is like proclaiming all Muslims are Terrorists. It is untrue and stupid, "Nicole". It is demonstrably false.
And I was merely stating that I have never seen anyone here or at OzPol proclaim that all Muslims are terrorists yet I have seen unfounded accusations that that is how they think.
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Malcolm_hates_your_kids
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by Malcolm_hates_your_kids » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:20 pm
brian ross wrote:Mistress Nicole wrote:I have taken the quote below from this thread
http://www.ozpolitic.com/polanimal/view ... f1e#p22575, so that it stays on topic, and am replying to it here where I believe it belongs.
@ Brian:
I believe everybody deserves a fair chance, individually. Otherwise you're just being bigotted
Do Nazi's deserve a fair chance, individually? How about Hell's Angel's?
Everyone stereotypes, Brian. It's natural and innate and designed to keep us safe.
I've known individual Nazis and Hell's Angels. They've been OK, individually, "Nicole". I've never been in the position where either has had power over me, though, I am quite willing to admit. Stereotyping is not natural. It requires conscious effort to create this fantasy that you are subscribing to. It is like proclaiming all Muslims are Terrorists. It is untrue and stupid, "Nicole". It is demonstrably false.
Stereotyping is natural: it requires conscious effort not to stereotype!
Stop making things worse!
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BigP
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by BigP » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:32 pm
brian ross wrote:Mistress Nicole wrote:I have taken the quote below from this thread
http://www.ozpolitic.com/polanimal/view ... f1e#p22575, so that it stays on topic, and am replying to it here where I believe it belongs.
@ Brian:
I believe everybody deserves a fair chance, individually. Otherwise you're just being bigotted
Do Nazi's deserve a fair chance, individually? How about Hell's Angel's?
Everyone stereotypes, Brian. It's natural and innate and designed to keep us safe.
I've known individual Nazis and Hell's Angels. They've been OK, individually, "Nicole". I've never been in the position where either has had power over me, though, I am quite willing to admit. Stereotyping is not natural. It requires conscious effort to create this fantasy that you are subscribing to. It is like proclaiming all Muslims are Terrorists. It is untrue and stupid, "Nicole". It is demonstrably false.
Im sure Adolf was fine individualy , he only became a problem when he started drinking piss with his mates LOL,,
You are full of it Brian , I see more posts from you stating how tough you are, and the tough guys you mix with, youre a legend in your own mind mate lol
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