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Should gay couples be allowed to adopt children?

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Total votes: 13

Nicole
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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Nicole » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:01 pm

Mistress Nicole wrote:
Rorschach wrote:oh and Nicole another quote from a researcher you have ignored that is on topic...
Rorschach wrote:I'm simply saying don't be lazy or cast aspertions on my honesty.

I provided quotes...

Here's another more closely aligned with the actual topic... they aren't hard to find.
Schumm found that children with homosexual parents are 12-15 times more likely than children of heterosexual parents to be homosexual as adults. This is the strongest environmental influence ever reported for the development of homosexuality, and it involves very close family members, the parent-child relationship.
I tell you things, I find stuff and you just live in denial. :roll:
Attachment? Irrelevent. It only supports this quote.
Explain why, using your own words.
Waiting.

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Nicole » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:08 pm

Mistress Nicole wrote:
Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote:
Nom De Plume wrote:
Mistress Nicole wrote:Here's a youtube source that explains attachment even more simply:



Note that in Bowlby's time, he focussed largely on attachment to the mother. Via longitudinal studies, it is now widely accepted that a child needs one person to whom she is securely attached - mother, father, aunt, uncle, family friend etc.
Well supported Nicole. I would reason that a child would not notice what the principle carers sexual orientation would be, so long as it is a healthy attachment, that's all that matters.
Nom De Plume, you are a dangerous person with logic like that. What did Mistress Nicoles video say that actually sealed any deal?

:stay :stay :stay :stay :c
I suspect it's because Nom has actually viewed the two youtube video's, plus read the journal, I put up on attachment.

Let's turn the tables. Why do you disagree with the evidence I have submitted?
Waiting.

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Malcolm_hates_your_kids » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:58 pm

Nom De Plume wrote:I'll respond after you have addressed the question put to you by Nicole.
Fascists hide behind other fascists: you sound like a feminist with every excuse under the sun to dress and act how you want but with rules for everyone else!
Stop making things worse! :pope

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Malcolm_hates_your_kids » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:59 pm

Mistress Nicole wrote:
Mistress Nicole wrote:
Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote:
Nom De Plume wrote:
Mistress Nicole wrote:Here's a youtube source that explains attachment even more simply:



Note that in Bowlby's time, he focussed largely on attachment to the mother. Via longitudinal studies, it is now widely accepted that a child needs one person to whom she is securely attached - mother, father, aunt, uncle, family friend etc.
Well supported Nicole. I would reason that a child would not notice what the principle carers sexual orientation would be, so long as it is a healthy attachment, that's all that matters.
Nom De Plume, you are a dangerous person with logic like that. What did Mistress Nicoles video say that actually sealed any deal?

:stay :stay :stay :stay :c
I suspect it's because Nom has actually viewed the two youtube video's, plus read the journal, I put up on attachment.

Let's turn the tables. Why do you disagree with the evidence I have submitted?
Waiting.
Do you wonder why the world thinks feminists are bat shite crazy?
Stop making things worse! :pope

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Nicole » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:36 pm

Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote:
Mistress Nicole wrote:
Mistress Nicole wrote:
Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote:
Nom De Plume wrote:
Well supported Nicole. I would reason that a child would not notice what the principle carers sexual orientation would be, so long as it is a healthy attachment, that's all that matters.
Nom De Plume, you are a dangerous person with logic like that. What did Mistress Nicoles video say that actually sealed any deal?

:stay :stay :stay :stay :c
I suspect it's because Nom has actually viewed the two youtube video's, plus read the journal, I put up on attachment.

Let's turn the tables. Why do you disagree with the evidence I have submitted?
Waiting.
Do you wonder why the world thinks feminists are bat shite crazy?
You can't answer the question, so play the man and not the ball and drag this off topic. Have a banana.

Malcolm_hates_your_kids
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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Malcolm_hates_your_kids » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:47 pm

Mistress Nicole wrote:
Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote:
Mistress Nicole wrote:
Mistress Nicole wrote:
Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote: Nom De Plume, you are a dangerous person with logic like that. What did Mistress Nicoles video say that actually sealed any deal?

:stay :stay :stay :stay :c
I suspect it's because Nom has actually viewed the two youtube video's, plus read the journal, I put up on attachment.

Let's turn the tables. Why do you disagree with the evidence I have submitted?
Waiting.
Do you wonder why the world thinks feminists are bat shite crazy?
You can't answer the question, so play the man and not the ball and drag this off topic. Have a banana.
You're a hypocrite: this forum is pure hypocrisy!

:hi2
Stop making things worse! :pope

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Neferti » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:51 pm

WHO is Schumm? Is there a link to his findings? I Googled (and I am good at it) and didn't see anything about "adoption of children by gays" ....

There are several people called Schumm ... does this person you quote, Rorschach, have a christian name?

Nicole
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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Nicole » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:34 pm

Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote:
Mistress Nicole wrote:
Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote:
Mistress Nicole wrote:
Mistress Nicole wrote:
I suspect it's because Nom has actually viewed the two youtube video's, plus read the journal, I put up on attachment.

Let's turn the tables. Why do you disagree with the evidence I have submitted?
Waiting.
Do you wonder why the world thinks feminists are bat shite crazy?
You can't answer the question, so play the man and not the ball and drag this off topic. Have a banana.
You're a hypocrite: this forum is pure hypocrisy!

:hi2
Hello Mal,

Since you have clearly read/viewed the information I have provided on attachment, I think you're ready for the next step. To provide healthy attachment, parents need to be available as their child explores, and then returns to them. Note this circle of security can be developed by either a male or a female caregiver. The sexuality of the caregiver, yet again, is irrelevant. This is how children develop confidence and trust in their caregivers and in turn, come to enjoy secure attachments in adulthood.

I believe Circle of Security theory has stood the test for about 35 years, and is still researched heavily and relied upon by allied health care workers.

Here's an easy one to grasp to start with. Enjoy, and I look forward to your thoughts.

Cheers,
Nic


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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Malcolm_hates_your_kids » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:47 pm

Mistress Nicole wrote:
Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote:
Mistress Nicole wrote:
Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote:
Mistress Nicole wrote:
Waiting.
Do you wonder why the world thinks feminists are bat shite crazy?
You can't answer the question, so play the man and not the ball and drag this off topic. Have a banana.
You're a hypocrite: this forum is pure hypocrisy!

:hi2
Hello Mal,

Since you have clearly read/viewed the information I have provided on attachment, I think you're ready for the next step. To provide healthy attachment, parents need to be available as their child explores, and then returns to them. Note this circle of security can be developed by either a male or a female caregiver. The sexuality of the caregiver, yet again, is irrelevant. This is how children develop confidence and trust in their caregivers and in turn, come to enjoy secure attachments in adulthood.

I believe Circle of Security theory has stood the test for about 35 years, and is still researched heavily and relied upon by allied health care workers.

Here's an easy one to grasp to start with. Enjoy, and I look forward to your thoughts.

Cheers,
Nic

You're a nut :PC
Stop making things worse! :pope

Nicole
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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Nicole » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:56 pm

@ Mal

Then so is all this research:

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=goog ... e&ie=UTF-8

Why don't you just accept you're out of your depth and exit to the Men's Shed? They build shit n stuff.

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