Adoption of children by gay couples

[BigP]

There are not enough kids to service the hetrosexual couples that want to adopt so the argument is somewhat a moot point, unless they want to give them the ones that no one else wants, black ,retarded etc lol

[Nicole]

There are not enough kids to service the hetrosexual couples that want to adopt so the argument is somewhat a moot point, unless they want to give them the ones that no one else wants, black ,retarded etc lol

That's due to McDrive Thru abortions. But that doesn't distract from the point that same sex couples can raise emotionally healthy, securely attached kids.

[BigP]

There are not enough kids to service the hetrosexual couples that want to adopt so the argument is somewhat a moot point, unless they want to give them the ones that no one else wants, black ,retarded etc lol

That's due to McDrive Thru abortions. But that doesn't distract from the point that same sex couples can raise emotionally healthy, securely attached kids.

Im sure that a good number could. But the average gay persons lifestyle does not lend itself to settling down and raising a family, Psychologically gay people do not exspect to reproduce

[Nicole]

There are not enough kids to service the hetrosexual couples that want to adopt so the argument is somewhat a moot point, unless they want to give them the ones that no one else wants, black ,retarded etc lol

That's due to McDrive Thru abortions. But that doesn't distract from the point that same sex couples can raise emotionally healthy, securely attached kids.

Im sure that a good number could. But the average gay persons lifestyle does not lend itself to settling down and raising a family, Psychologically gay people do not exspect to reproduce

I'm inclined to agree with that.

Addendum: do you agree that same sex couples who wish to, who pass stringent testing like hetros do, should be able to foster or adopt?

I would add to that I suspect lesbians still have a biological pull towards having children but that is just my own, meandering experience talking. I have nothing to back it up with besides anecdotal evidence and could well be wrong.

[Malcolm_hates_your_kids]

Identical twins have the same genes or DNA. They are nurtured in equal prenatal conditions. If homosexuality is caused by genetics or prenatal conditions and one twin is gay, the co-twin should also be gay.

“Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%,” Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. “If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women.”

Because identical twins are always genetically identical, homosexuality cannot be genetically dictated. “No-one is born gay,” he notes. “The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.”
The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.

Dr. Whitehead believes same-sex attraction (SSA) is caused by “non-shared factors,” things happening to one twin but not the other, or a personal response to an event by one of the twins and not the other.

https://rethinkingtheology.com/2014/07/ ... s-nurture/

Bias studies from Bible Bashers count naught towards validating your premise.

Nom De Plume, why do we as a country talk to God in Parliament?

[Malcolm_hates_your_kids]

Here's a youtube source that explains attachment even more simply:



Note that in Bowlby's time, he focussed largely on attachment to the mother. Via longitudinal studies, it is now widely accepted that a child needs one person to whom she is securely attached - mother, father, aunt, uncle, family friend etc.

Well supported Nicole. I would reason that a child would not notice what the principle carers sexual orientation would be, so long as it is a healthy attachment, that's all that matters.

Nom De Plume, you are a dangerous person with logic like that. What did Mistress Nicoles video say that actually sealed any deal?

[Nom De Plume]

I'm inclined to agree with that.

Addendum: do you agree that same sex couples who wish to, who pass stringent testing like hetros do, should be able to foster or adopt?

I would add to that I suspect lesbians still have a biological pull towards having children but that is just my own, meandering experience talking. I have nothing to back it up with besides anecdotal evidence and could well be wrong.

You are not wrong!

An old school friend of mine and her partner used IVF, funded by the ADF and now have a beautiful 6 year old boy. Both Mums are still in the ADF and their son is well adjusted.

[Nicole]

Here's a youtube source that explains attachment even more simply:



Note that in Bowlby's time, he focussed largely on attachment to the mother. Via longitudinal studies, it is now widely accepted that a child needs one person to whom she is securely attached - mother, father, aunt, uncle, family friend etc.

Well supported Nicole. I would reason that a child would not notice what the principle carers sexual orientation would be, so long as it is a healthy attachment, that's all that matters.

Nom De Plume, you are a dangerous person with logic like that. What did Mistress Nicoles video say that actually sealed any deal?

I suspect it's because Nom has actually viewed the two youtube video's, plus read the journal, I put up on attachment.

Let's turn the tables. Why do you disagree with the evidence I have submitted?

[Malcolm_hates_your_kids]

I'm inclined to agree with that.

Addendum: do you agree that same sex couples who wish to, who pass stringent testing like hetros do, should be able to foster or adopt?

I would add to that I suspect lesbians still have a biological pull towards having children but that is just my own, meandering experience talking. I have nothing to back it up with besides anecdotal evidence and could well be wrong.

You are not wrong!

An old school friend of mine and her partner used IVF, funded by the ADF and now have a beautiful 6 year old boy. Both Mums are still in the ADF and their son is well adjusted.

How do you know?

[Nom De Plume]

I'll respond after you have addressed the question put to you by Nicole.