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Should gay couples be allowed to adopt children?

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No
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Total votes: 13

Nicole
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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Nicole » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:20 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Rorschach wrote:
Black Orchid wrote:Just because babies and children are not sexual, as such, does not mean they are not carrying latent tendencies.
Prove it..... scientists state there is no gay gene, and there is no found genetic predeterminant... twin studies show nurture NOT nature affects sexuality almost exclusively.
You haven't even quoted a source so you prove it.

For every study done there are 2 more saying something totally different.
I agree. This subject (generally speaking and not referring necessarily to posters on this board) is fraught with barrow pushing - a bit like climate change. For that reason I always like to see references. Can you reference your material Rorschach.

I also don't find anecdotal "evidence" particularly convincing of anything.

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Malcolm_hates_your_kids » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:22 pm

Mistress Nicole wrote:@ Malcolm
Then why do perverts try to 'groom' children?
Because they're peadophiles. Any other inane questions I can answer for you?
You should be very careful what you admit people voted for then :read
Stop making things worse! :pope

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Nicole » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:41 pm

Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote:
Mistress Nicole wrote:@ Malcolm
Then why do perverts try to 'groom' children?
Because they're peadophiles. Any other inane questions I can answer for you?
You should be very careful what you admit people voted for then :read
1) Show me where I have "admitted" what people voted for. A quote of the post will be fine; and
2) Demonstrate how this is relevant to the topic; and
3) How are you going reading those peer reviewed journal articles on attachment? I'd say dictionary.com is being hammered.

Look forward to your response. Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Nic

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Rorschach » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:52 pm

Oh look at the denial will you.... the evidence and studies are all over the Net, all you need is the will to look.
I've provided enough information, but still you choose to deny it. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Nicole » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:53 pm

Rorschach wrote:Oh look at the denial will you.... the evidence and studies are all over the Net, all you need is the will to look.
I've provided enough information, but still you choose to deny it. :roll: :roll: :roll:
I'm simply asking you to reveal your references, nothing more. Why are you so reticent about sharing them?

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Rorschach » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:33 pm

I'm simply saying don't be lazy or cast aspertions on my honesty.

I provided quotes...

Here's another more closely aligned with the actual topic... they aren't hard to find.
Schumm found that children with homosexual parents are 12-15 times more likely than children of heterosexual parents to be homosexual as adults. This is the strongest environmental influence ever reported for the development of homosexuality, and it involves very close family members, the parent-child relationship.
I tell you things, I find stuff and you just live in denial. :roll:
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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Nicole » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:59 pm

@ Rorschach
I tell you things, I find stuff and you just live in denial.
It-is-the-light finds quotes that the earth is flat. There are sources, and there are sources. Some peer reviewed journals even are considered better references than others, because the research is more rigourous.
I tell you things, I find stuff and you just live in denial.
No, I'm not in denial, I'm simply after your source.

Here's an example of a reference you've quoted:
Identical twins have the same genes or DNA. They are nurtured in equal prenatal conditions. If homosexuality is caused by genetics or prenatal conditions and one twin is gay, the co-twin should also be gay.

“Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%,” Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. “If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women.”

Because identical twins are always genetically identical, homosexuality cannot be genetically dictated. “No-one is born gay,” he notes. “The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.”
The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.

Dr. Whitehead believes same-sex attraction (SSA) is caused by “non-shared factors,” things happening to one twin but not the other, or a personal response to an event by one of the twins and not the other.
That quote comes from http://www.hollanddavis.com/, which is the page for an evangelical Christian Church In America.

It's no wonder you're so reticent to reference your quotes. You'll be quoting Fred Phelps next. :lol:

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Nicole » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:02 pm

Mistress Nicole wrote:
Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote:
Mistress Nicole wrote:@ Malcolm
Then why do perverts try to 'groom' children?
Because they're peadophiles. Any other inane questions I can answer for you?
You should be very careful what you admit people voted for then :read
1) Show me where I have "admitted" what people voted for. A quote of the post will be fine; and
2) Demonstrate how this is relevant to the topic; and
3) How are you going reading those peer reviewed journal articles on attachment? I'd say dictionary.com is being hammered.

Look forward to your response. Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Nic
Yoo hoo my man man Mal, how're you doing?

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Rorschach » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:43 pm

Mistress Nicole wrote:@ Rorschach
I tell you things, I find stuff and you just live in denial.
It-is-the-light finds quotes that the earth is flat. There are sources, and there are sources. Some peer reviewed journals even are considered better references than others, because the research is more rigourous.
I tell you things, I find stuff and you just live in denial.
No, I'm not in denial, I'm simply after your source.

Here's an example of a reference you've quoted:
Identical twins have the same genes or DNA. They are nurtured in equal prenatal conditions. If homosexuality is caused by genetics or prenatal conditions and one twin is gay, the co-twin should also be gay.

“Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%,” Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. “If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women.”

Because identical twins are always genetically identical, homosexuality cannot be genetically dictated. “No-one is born gay,” he notes. “The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.”
The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.

Dr. Whitehead believes same-sex attraction (SSA) is caused by “non-shared factors,” things happening to one twin but not the other, or a personal response to an event by one of the twins and not the other.
That quote comes from http://www.hollanddavis.com/, which is the page for an evangelical Christian Church In America.

It's no wonder you're so reticent to reference your quotes. You'll be quoting Fred Phelps next. :lol:
LOL
You'll find it on lots of blogs and sites with interests in the topic.

Doesn't make it wrong at any level...

You are shooting the messenger are you, with not refutation or argument with factual basis. :du :du :du
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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Rorschach » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:44 pm

Oh and BTW telling YOU its all over the Net and you should look for yourself is hardly reticence. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Oh and are you saying all religious sites and people who run them are ignorant and dishonest? Tsk, tsk, tsk oh dearie dearie me, what a bigot as bwian would say.
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