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Should gay couples be allowed to adopt children?

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Nicole
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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Nicole » Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:35 am

Hi Rorschach,

That’s a very good article but to my way of thinking is off-topic. The topic at hand is whether same sex couples should be able to adopt children; not gay marriage

I do think it’s a worthy topic for debate, but could you please start a new topic on gay marriage with this article? A source would also be appreciated.

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Nic

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by cods » Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:33 pm

I think there needs to be more study of children from a young age until they leave home...
:roll:
I read where a lesbian couple drove off a cliff with 4 of their adopted children in the car....

I get sick of reading the horror stories what happens to children... we will never get it completely right

but there needs to be more follow up I think maybe even for a few years...but they will never spend money on that.. :roll:

what will happen when transvestites demand their legal equal rights?.

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Black Orchid » Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:36 pm

cods wrote:what will happen when transvestites demand their legal equal rights?.
And what are their "legal equal rights"? Certainly NOT competing in womens' sports!

Aren't they doing that already?

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Rorschach » Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:09 pm

Mistress Nicole wrote:Hi Rorschach,

That’s a very good article but to my way of thinking is off-topic. The topic at hand is whether same sex couples should be able to adopt children; not gay marriage

I do think it’s a worthy topic for debate, but could you please start a new topic on gay marriage with this article? A source would also be appreciated.

Cheers
Nic
I was replying to cods piece nic....
I also believe you and BO have touched on the Canadian results...

Those results affect everyone and every family most notably the children and the world they will inherit.
BTW their right to adopt happened before their right to marry... IMO a big mistake, I previously commented on.
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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Malcolm_hates_your_kids » Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:58 pm

Mistress Nicole wrote:I work in an allied health field where I see many children who can't, for various reasons, live with their parents. Gay couples should be allowed to care for these children, or adopt other children. All children need to thrive is secure attachment (which is the template for trust). The sexual orientation of their primary caregivers is irrelevant.

Discuss.
I don't have to agree!
Stop making things worse! :pope

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Nicole » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:00 pm

Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote:
Mistress Nicole wrote:I work in an allied health field where I see many children who can't, for various reasons, live with their parents. Gay couples should be allowed to care for these children, or adopt other children. All children need to thrive is secure attachment (which is the template for trust). The sexual orientation of their primary caregivers is irrelevant.

Discuss.
I don't have to agree!
No, you don't. But debate boards tend to expect opinions be backed with a rationale. Shoot.

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Malcolm_hates_your_kids » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:20 pm

Mistress Nicole wrote:
Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote:
Mistress Nicole wrote:I work in an allied health field where I see many children who can't, for various reasons, live with their parents. Gay couples should be allowed to care for these children, or adopt other children. All children need to thrive is secure attachment (which is the template for trust). The sexual orientation of their primary caregivers is irrelevant.

Discuss.
I don't have to agree!
No, you don't. But debate boards tend to expect opinions be backed with a rationale. Shoot.
"I work in an allied health field where I see many children who can't, for various reasons, live with their parents. Gay couples should be allowed to care for these children, or adopt other children. All children need to thrive is secure attachment (which is the template for trust). The sexual orientation of their primary caregivers is irrelevant.

Discuss."
<<

I don't think your rationale of, " All children need to thrive is secure attachment(which is the template for trust)", cuts the mustard!

A mother figure and a father figure is not even being considered in the raising of said child: your rationale is questionable IMHO!

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Nicole » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:35 pm

I don't think your rationale of, " All children need to thrive is secure attachment(which is the template for trust)", cuts the mustard!
Actually it does, if you understand what attachment is. I am prepared to answer what attachment is, but it will take some work. I will do the work if you are in this to actually debate the points, play the ball, and take the topic seriously.

Do we have a deal?

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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Rorschach » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:49 pm

So nic do you believe it's fair for a child to be brought up with parents who both have a homosexual orientation and bias?
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Re: Adoption of children by gay couples

Post by Nicole » Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:03 pm

Rorschach wrote:So nic do you believe it's fair for a child to be brought up with parents who both have a homosexual orientation and bias?
I believe that provided a child has a secure attachment to a primary caregiver - be they straight or gay - than that child can thrive.

In the references to the Canadian situation which Black Orchid provided, there was no explanation as to why the children were placed with same sex couples in the first place. If they were placed there because they were removed by child protection, the trauma they suffered under their natural birth parents is enough to fuck them right up for life, and has nothing to do with the sexuality of the foster/adopted parents.

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