Mal has Bull S. in his sights

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Juliar
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Mal has Bull S. in his sights

Post by Juliar » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:19 am

Bull S. is running scared. Could this be the straw that broke the camel's back and gives the corrupt unions an excuse to DUMP Bull S. ?

Labor has done what most thought impossible - found someone who is even worse than Juliar Gillard the Witch from Wales.





Thomson case ammo for Shorten attack
BRAD NORINGTON Associate Editor The Australian 12:00AM August 15, 2017

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Bill Shorten is a sitting duck in Mal's sights.

Bill Shorten could face accusations similar to former Labor MP Craig Thomson if it was found he gave $100,000 of Australian Workers Union funds to GetUp! without authorisation, Michaelia Cash has suggested.

LATEST: Australian Workers Union confirms Getup! donation when Bill Shorten led union

Senator Cash, the Turnbull government’s Employment Min­­ister, told parliament yesterday the Labor leader had “serious questions to answer” over an AWU donation of about $100,000 to help establish activist group GetUp! in 2005.

At the time Mr Shorten ran the AWU’s national and Victorian offices as the branch secretary of both, and joined the original board of GetUp! as a ­director when it was launched in August that year.

Senator Cash raised the AWU donation in parliament yesterday following The Weekend Australian’ s revelation that Mr Shorten gave about $100,000 of union money, and possibly more, to the left-leaning activist group. Mr Shorten has persistently refused in the past to make any comment about support he provided to GetUp! when it was launched as an “independent, grassroots, community advocacy organisation”.

Asked again by The Weekend Australian, Mr Shorten did not answer specific questions on whether he recalled that the $100,000 donation, and any others to GetUp!, were documented in resolutions or minutes under AWU rule 57 that requires approval by the AWU’s national executive.

A spokesman for Mr Shorten said: “As I said on Friday, you’ll have to ask the AWU for further information on particulars.

“The AWU was proud to support the establishment of GetUp! The support was endorsed by the national executive.’’

Senator Cash yesterday ­quoted rule 57, saying the question for Mr Shorten was a simple one: “Was this $100,000 donation of AWU members’ money validly authorised under the rules?”

She claimed it was “unconscionable” that the membership fees of AWU members “could be spent on boosting Mr Shorten’s political profile rather than fight for their best interests”.

The minister then raised the case of Mr Thomson, a former Labor MP who spent funds of the Health Services Union on his own political campaign and for other personal purposes without authorisation when he was the union’s national secretary.

She added: “Again, Mr Shorten needs to answer the questions: was the $100,000 donation from the AWU authorised under union rules, and did Mr Shorten declare a conflict of interest?”

The minister further raised whether or not Mr Shorten had gained proper authorisation for “another generous donation” made to Labor in the seat of Maribyrnong by the AWU when Mr Shorten was first a candidate in the seat in 2007, and still national secretary of the AWU.

The minister’s comments leave open the possibility of the Turnbull government referring these questions about Mr Shorten’s AWU donation to the ­recently formed Registered ­Organisations Commission.

The ROC, which was set up to introduce greater financial ­accountability and transparency in the wake of the royal commission into union corruption, has investigative powers akin to a permanent royal commission, and is not limited by any statute of limitations in its inquiries.

Mr Thomson was found guilty of theft from the HSU following a long criminal prosecution. He also lost a civil case brought against him in the Federal Court which ruled he owed hundreds of thousands of dollars to the union after unauthorised funds he spent.

The Weekend Australian last week checked with the current leadership of the AWU’s national office with a request for information about resolutions and minutes related to the union’s GetUp! contribution when Mr Shorten was in charge.

So far the AWU has had difficulties obtaining the information. Most unions keep minutes indefinitely to provide a clear history of the organisation.

Financial reports of the AWU reveal high donation totals from the union in the 2006 financial year: $94,000 from the national office and $83,000 from the AWU’s Victorian office.

Mr Shorten was then in charge of both.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nationa ... 22f3f2c1cf

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Keith 9 HOURS AGO
Bill is a pit bull terrier, looking for the quick kill by his understanding of distraction. Turnbull plays a game of chess, the long game is now begun. What the Labor Party have been left with after RGR, the honourable walking of some, annihilation of others, is the bottom of the barrel of leadership options. Bill is now about to be done for a dinner, not by his well orchestrated manoeuvre but Turnbull Team's timing and response. Watch it now unfold, see the pack of cards come tumbling down, right across the CFMEU etc. picket line. Lies, exposed fraud, citizenship, and all this done within the structures placed and/or replaced by this Government. Tomorrow is come !

Mike 17 HOURS AGO
This muck we now see being openly reported ought to be a great concern to Labor. The real economic power of the unions needs to be examined because they are not transparent, nor are they required to present to their members the financial transactions that go on between the unions, the superannuation funds they manage and a host of satellite organisations such as GetUp! that look like they wouldn't be effective in their tactics without these donations. It is these organisations that become the spearhead for political activism and given the financial support they receive from the Labor Movement (party plus unions) it is pretty obvious their function is to eventually help Labor win - by fair means or foul. The last election campaign was a classic case in point. Our democratic processes are badly corrupted. Labor must never win while they adopt these tactics, otherwise one can only imagine that the exhibition of such unscrupulous tactics is a precursor to their behaviour in government.

Robyn 12 HOURS AGO
@Mike GetUp! was fairly effective in shutting a few of us down at the anti-carbon tax rallies held in Canberra and Sydney during Julia Gillard's term as PM. Members would show up and unfurl banners in front of speakers, monster the elderly in the crowd and use megaphones to shout down protestors. Nice to know they were being funded by Shorten's mates. Now I'm even more indignant than I was at the time.

Daren 18 HOURS AGO
Can I ask the Liberals to start attacking Shorten for what he is and that mob at GetUp!, and the CFMEU they are all using workers money to feather their own nests and create well paid jobs for themselves at everyone's expense.

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Re: Mal has Bull S. in his sights

Post by Juliar » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:37 am

One tends to avoid the ABC's left biased reporting of news and current affairs, particularly now that the organisation is cherry picking social issues to advocate. Nevertheless, they do still occasionally provide some watchable entertainment and one of these programs is 'Poldark'. The reason I raise this subject is that the character of George in the series so nearly replicates our own Bill Shorten. Watchers of the program may understand what I mean.

Mr. Turnbull, if you do not conduct a full frontal attack on the very weak spot of Labor, that being Bill Shorten and the unions, Labor will get in and Australia will suffer.

Attack them right now with a well planned, well coordinated and researched approach and Labor will be in opposition for many years to come.

Oh for a Thatcher!

Teflon Bill - the man of the people. What happened to the Royal Commission into the Unions? Nothing sticks to Bill as the majority of the media (the Australian excluded)are all left-wing sympathisers. What a pathetic bunch of Politicians & media outlets we have in this country.

Bill Shorten was also on the original BOARD of Get Up! while stil a Union Leader.

Can someone confirm that Bill Shorten was also on the original BOARD of Get Up! while still a Union Leader?

At the time Mr Shorten ran the AWU’s national and Victorian offices as the branch secretary of both, and joined the original board of GetUp! as a ­director when it was launched in August that year.

But it is not a problem as GetUp! is an “independent, grassroots, community advocacy organisation”!

What is it with Labor and spending other peoples money???? Simple - they are very good at it. They think it is theirs to throw around like confetti

Ultimately the blame comes down to the electorate. We should take more care in evaluating the assertions made by politicians but more importantly the media. When a claim is made I personally always add the qualification that someone claims this or that to be the case. The problem is that we accept untrue and biased claims as being true. I don't think that a large part of the electorate would know a good politician or a good policy if one bit them on the arm. For democracy to work properly you need a large part of the electorate to be at least reasonably well informed and able to discriminate rubbish from good. I don't think we have that here.

The stupidy of the electorate is reflected in the makeup of the senate . The lack of collective IQ is writ large there .

The makeup of the Senate is reflected in the scamming of preferences and the ludicrous rules where some get in on a scant number of primary votes.

The only answer is to stop voting above the line and allocate the preferences yourself, or just get rid of preferential voting altogether..


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Dogone! Mal has tricked me again!!!

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Re: Mal has Bull S. in his sights

Post by 762NATO » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:53 am

This is why this fluffy bunny will never be PM

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Re: Mal has Bull S. in his sights

Post by cods » Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:24 am

The stupidy of the electorate is reflected in the makeup of the senate . The lack of collective IQ is writ large there .



while we have the pitiful preferences system for the senate we will always have dissent..

this is not what the senate was created to do.....yet because of our draconian system we get elected in people with the least votes.....

who the hell wants people who got in .... thanks to 3rd or forth preference....it makes me so mad.

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Re: Mal has Bull S. in his sights

Post by Redneck » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:10 pm

Another forum spoiled by the Ju Liar!

:S :S :S :S

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Re: Mal has Bull S. in his sights

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:15 pm

Juliar wrote:One tends to avoid the ABC's left biased reporting of news and current affairs, particularly now that the organisation is cherry picking social issues to advocate. Nevertheless, they do still occasionally provide some watchable entertainment and one of these programs is 'Poldark'. The reason I raise this subject is that the character of George in the series so nearly replicates our own Bill Shorten. Watchers of the program may understand what I mean.
LOL I had never really thought about it but that's not too far wrong.

The only answer is to stop voting above the line and allocate the preferences yourself, or just get rid of preferential voting altogether..
I agree totally and absolutely!

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Re: Mal has Bull S. in his sights

Post by Neferti » Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:33 pm

cods wrote:The stupidy of the electorate is reflected in the makeup of the senate . The lack of collective IQ is writ large there .



while we have the pitiful preferences system for the senate we will always have dissent..

this is not what the senate was created to do.....yet because of our draconian system we get elected in people with the least votes.....

who the hell wants people who got in .... thanks to 3rd or forth preference....it makes me so mad.
Well said, Cods. :rose

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Re: Mal has Bull S. in his sights

Post by Neferti » Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:36 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Juliar wrote:One tends to avoid the ABC's left biased reporting of news and current affairs, particularly now that the organisation is cherry picking social issues to advocate. Nevertheless, they do still occasionally provide some watchable entertainment and one of these programs is 'Poldark'. The reason I raise this subject is that the character of George in the series so nearly replicates our own Bill Shorten. Watchers of the program may understand what I mean.
LOL I had never really thought about it but that's not too far wrong.

The only answer is to stop voting above the line and allocate the preferences yourself, or just get rid of preferential voting altogether..
I agree totally and absolutely!
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I got bored with the series but this shot won a lot of females over. :yahoo

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Re: Mal has Bull S. in his sights

Post by boxy » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:37 pm

Neferti~ wrote:
cods wrote:The stupidy of the electorate is reflected in the makeup of the senate . The lack of collective IQ is writ large there .



while we have the pitiful preferences system for the senate we will always have dissent..

this is not what the senate was created to do.....yet because of our draconian system we get elected in people with the least votes.....

who the hell wants people who got in .... thanks to 3rd or forth preference....it makes me so mad.
Well said, Cods. :rose
It's exactly what the senate was created for. Pure democracy (first past the post) is just fascism by majority rule. For long term stability, you need to take into account the views of those who disagree.
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Re: Mal has Bull S. in his sights

Post by 762NATO » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:10 pm

If labor were in power with a hostile senate you would be the first fluffy bunny whingin, followed by Smiff pecker and all the rest of your arse rooting pole smoking mates boxy

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