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Rorschach
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by Rorschach » Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:54 am
http://www.ipe.net.au/wp-content/upload ... nsbury.pdf
Why Turnbull is a Labor Stooge
The Liberal Party is supposed to be the custodian of Classical Liberalism and Conservatism. Malcolm Turnbull is neither. He is a leftist-progressive and
secular humanist, who wants to take Australia in the same general philosophical direction as the Labor Party and the Greens. Below I have produced a
timeline of just some of Turnbull’s intimate associations with the Labor Party and the left. It is incomplete and I am still working on it. Nevertheless, it clearly shows that Turnbull’s ideology is long-held and deeply-ingrained, extending right back to his mother, a feminist and Labor-supporter who worked for the ABC. Turnbull’s gaggle of so-called “moderates” should all lose their pre-selections and be expelled from the party.
15th March, 1981 – Turnbull returns to Sydney from Oxford, and has his eye on political office and the Prime Ministership. He has said the particular party he would join to achieve this “doesn’t matter”. Surrounded by safe Liberal seats in his area of Sydney’s eastern suburbs, Turnbull decides to join the Liberal Party and run for pre-selection, saying:“I contested the Liberal Party’s pre-selection for the very safe seat of Wentworth... Had I won the pre-selection ballot, I would have certainly been returned as a member of the House of Representatives.”
He loses that pre-selection contest to former NSW Opposition Leader Peter Coleman, but continues to seek political office.
In 1982, the left-liberal former Prime Minister Billy McMahon retired from his federal seat of Lowe.He endorsed Turnbull to replace him, but Turnbull decided not to contest the marginal seat. Then, in 1983, Turnbull ran for Liberal preselection in the very safe Liberal state seat of Mosman, but again lost, this time to Phillip Smiles.
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by Rorschach » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:09 am
November, 1993 – Turnbull publishes his book “The Reluctant Republic”. In it he...
Attacks Liberal Party founder Robert Menzies.
Praises Labor’s Curtin and Doc Evatt.
Admits they tried to hide ALP involvement in the republic movement.
Praises Paul Keating.
Wants Australian flag changed.
Suggests anti‐republicans are racist against Asians.
Says monarchists are “cave‐man conservatives”.
Suggests Australia is a racist country.
Makes abusive remarks about Liberals.
Threatens Liberals with election challenges.
Etc, etc, etc...
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J o h n S m i t h
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by J o h n S m i t h » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:24 am
Rorschach wrote:http://www.ipe.net.au/wp-content/upload ... nsbury.pdf
Why Turnbull is a Labor Stooge
The Liberal Party is supposed to be the custodian of Classical Liberalism and Conservatism. Malcolm Turnbull is neither. He is a leftist-progressive and
secular humanist, who wants to take Australia in the same general philosophical direction as the Labor Party and the Greens. Below I have produced a
timeline of just some of Turnbull’s intimate associations with the Labor Party and the left. It is incomplete and I am still working on it. Nevertheless, it clearly shows that Turnbull’s ideology is long-held and deeply-ingrained, extending right back to his mother, a feminist and Labor-supporter who worked for the ABC. Turnbull’s gaggle of so-called “moderates” should all lose their pre-selections and be expelled from the party.
15th March, 1981 – Turnbull returns to Sydney from Oxford, and has his eye on political office and the Prime Ministership. He has said the particular party he would join to achieve this “doesn’t matter”. Surrounded by safe Liberal seats in his area of Sydney’s eastern suburbs, Turnbull decides to join the Liberal Party and run for pre-selection, saying:“I contested the Liberal Party’s pre-selection for the very safe seat of Wentworth... Had I won the pre-selection ballot, I would have certainly been returned as a member of the House of Representatives.”
He loses that pre-selection contest to former NSW Opposition Leader Peter Coleman, but continues to seek political office.
In 1982, the left-liberal former Prime Minister Billy McMahon retired from his federal seat of Lowe.He endorsed Turnbull to replace him, but Turnbull decided not to contest the marginal seat. Then, in 1983, Turnbull ran for Liberal preselection in the very safe Liberal state seat of Mosman, but again lost, this time to Phillip Smiles.
you're just putting up someone else's OPINION ... it doesn't mean anything. For all I know you wrote that yourself. And since when has how his mum (who had little to do with his uprising) voted politically got to do with anything? He's not the first son to disagree with how his parents vote. I certainly didn't vote the same as my parents at the last election
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by J o h n S m i t h » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:26 am
Rorschach wrote:November, 1993 – Turnbull publishes his book “The Reluctant Republic”. In it he...
Attacks Liberal Party founder Robert Menzies.
Praises Labor’s Curtin and Doc Evatt.
Admits they tried to hide ALP involvement in the republic movement.
Praises Paul Keating.
Wants Australian flag changed.
Suggests anti‐republicans are racist against Asians.
Says monarchists are “cave‐man conservatives”.
Suggests Australia is a racist country.
Makes abusive remarks about Liberals.
Threatens Liberals with election challenges.
Etc, etc, etc...
gee .... at the time he was heading the push for a republic he was critical of those opposed to a republic. ... ohh my gosh, who ever heard of such a thing.
He was a lawyer. They build their whole careers by arguing and convincing people of points they don't personally agree with.
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by Rorschach » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:34 am
Whoosh eh Troll.
Cant admit when you get it wrong.
Sorry, unlike you I do.
So most Conservatives you can call them Liberals and Nationals... they form the Coalition Government are against becoming a republic. That's why most Australians voted against it and the Referendum failed.
Turnbull as you could learn if you read this so-called "opinion" piece, which is stacked with referenced facts BTW was and is against most Conservative thought and always has been. Like I and many others have said time and time again... he should be leading the Labor party.
hence why a great many political commentators are now calling their policies LABOR LITE....
Which is why he is unpopular with most of the Conservative grassroots and why many refuse to vote for the party whilst he is Leader. Which is why Abbott is speaking up, and Bernadi left the party. Oh dear, them facts keep a coming don't they.
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by J o h n S m i t h » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:37 am
don't put words in my mouth you idiot, you aren't smart enough .
As far as the public was concerned, the anti republican movement was being led by John Howard, the liberal leader and PM at the time. It's irrelevant if other members of the liberal party supported the republican movement, peoples perceptions are based on the obvious, not the obscure little back bencher no one ever heard off.
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by Rorschach » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:08 am
Boy do you have comprehension problems....
Mal as you've failed to show otherwise is a WET.
A very wet WET.
His social policies fit labor and the Greens better than the liberal/national Coalition.
Most media commentators have admitted his latest policies are simply Labor Lite...
I quite frankly don't know why you keep ignoring the facts and just admit it... its pretty easy to admit when you get things wrong.
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by Rorschach » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:22 am
From the LW prog media... SMH.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/federal- ... w99he.html
Labor-lite budget ticks all the boxes for Turnbull
Ross Gittins
For students of the politics of economics – my special subject – this clothes-pinching budget has been a feast. Oh no,
it's "Labor-lite". Shocking!
Actually,
it's a budget that ticks all the boxes for Malcolm Turnbull and, by extension, his parliamentary followers – something their silent acquiescence suggests they realise.
You need brains to see a Labor-lite budget.
Turnbull's return to the centre has at last wrong-footed the formerly sure-footed Bill Shorten, exposing his pretence of putting the public interest ahead of partisan advantage – if we can't have our version of needs-based school funding, let's block the Libs' version – and prompting him to shift to left of centre, with his plans to increase taxes on high income-earners.
and...
Liberal party morphing into Labor-lite
Rita Panahi, Herald Sun
July 5, 2017 11:58am
Conservative voters have abandoned the Coalition because the Coalition abandoned them.
Sadly, the party of Menzies and Howard has been reduced to a shadow of its former self; rudderless, confused and heading for electoral annihilation despite facing a mediocre Opposition.
The voter base continues to walk away from the Coalition because they no longer see a force that champions their values, but one that is slowly morphing into Labor-lite and is willing to sell out its own for short-term gain.
Prime Minister Turnbull has a talent for making mediocre Labor leaders look like statesmen.
It was during his first reign as leader that Kevin Rudd’s popularity soared, with Turnbull providing little in the way of opposition. Now he has made Bill Shorten look prime ministerial.
How much longer can a conservative party be led by a man whose personal ideology too often mirrors that of his political “opponents”?
Under Turnbull, the Coalition has drifted to the Left without winning the Left’s votes.
Robert Menzies’ disdain for small-l liberals as unprincipled opportunists who weakened the party rings as true today as it did when he wrote it in 1974.
“The main trouble in my state is that we have the state executive of the Liberal Party, which is dominated by what they now call ‘Liberals with a small l’ — that is to say, Liberals who believe in nothing but who will believe in anything if they think it worth a few votes,” Menzies wrote in a letter to his daughter.
“The whole thing is quite tragic.”
Voters want authenticity, competence and a clear choice at the polling booth.
It’s all well and good to be a broad church, but at some point the Liberal Party has to stand for something and give frustrated voters a reason to trust it again.
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by J o h n S m i t h » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:30 pm
Rorschach wrote:
A very wet WET.
what the fkk is WET?
and from your own link
Rorschach wrote:Turnbull's return to the centre
your problem is that you think anything even slightly left off the extrmeme right in the liberal party is a leftie. It's not even close.
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by Rorschach » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:51 pm
J o h n S m i t h wrote:Rorschach wrote:
A very wet WET.
what the fkk is WET?
and from your own link
Rorschach wrote:Turnbull's return to the centre
your problem is that you think anything even slightly left off the extrmeme right in the liberal party is a leftie. It's not even close.
Oh dear.... you do have problems... how is it you know bits of Mals ancient history but are
clueless about WETS and DRIES?
In your eye, if Ross Gittens well known Lefty calls it centre Sunshine, you can bet its
Left of centre or are you saying you are a Labor supporter because its nowhere near the centre and Left or far of it the only position you accept? Mal is a Prog dopey, how often must various people tell you before you finally admit you are wrong?
Oh and sunshine...
How much longer can a conservative party be led by a man whose personal ideology too often mirrors that of his political “opponents”?
Under Turnbull, the Coalition has drifted to the Left without winning the Left’s votes.
Try to be more honest than selective in future.
Oh and don't quote me as writing something I didn't, quote the real author.
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