Unemployment

[Neferti]

Copying from elsewhere:

Neferti~ wrote:
The problem with some people is that, IF they get "retrenched" (nobody gets the sack these days) they immediately go to Centrelink, looking for a hand out. Nope.... if you get retrenched/made redundant you cant sign up straight away, if you get redundancy you can look forward to trying to hold on for 12 more months without any money coming in. If you are living pay-day-to-pay-day you have over extended yourself. Cut down on costs or not get into "credit" in the first instance. Yes, get used to living below the poverty line and begging for charity.

Centrelink doesn't have JOBS True... who said they did? You are expected to be assigned to an NGO who do nothing to help you for the first 12 months except to make sure you are fulfilling your responsibilities of looking for work and applying for the right amount of jobs a fortnight. ... you need to check online or the local newspaper and apply for any job you can ... keep applying until you crack it. And keep applying and keep applying and get no feedback or even the courtesy to tell you you didn't get the job etc... 770,000 UNEMPLOYED vs 150,000 jobs in Australia remember... that's 620,000 people who are entitled to be on the NEWSTART Poverty Allowance.

Life was never meant to be easy, as I well know. Just you eh... I arrived in Canberra in January 1981 with $300 in a savings account and a 5 year old daughter. After settling in, I found a job and started saving for a deposit on a house. I am still in the house I bought in 1983 and had it paid off by 1996*. It was NOT easy and I remember going to the Butcher and asking for 3 sausages (1 for her and 2 for me). I haven't had sausages and mash since those days. We survived. NOBODY gave me a break, I went out and found one all by myself! Lucky you 620,000 Australians do not have a job to be lucky enough to get because one doesn't exist.... let me know when you get it and I can stop repeating myself.

* I did NOT get any money (furniture or otherwise) from my ex husband. He did pay $140 a month in child support until she was 16. He should have paid until she finished Uni but I didn't quibble about it. Shit happens. Don't get divorced and don't get pregnant... your choice... meanwhile there are 620,000 Australians male and female with and without families that do not have a job to even apply for and 1,000,000 underemployed just keeping their heads above water.

[Rorschach]

best you copy it all Nef, I'm not doing the mods jobs for them.

[Neferti]

best you copy it all Nef, I'm not doing the mods jobs for them.

Isn't that it "All"?

[Rorschach]

No Nef there are a few pages of post and reply to be moved.

[Neferti]

No Nef there are a few pages of post and reply to be moved.

Perhaps ask the Mods nicely?

[Rorschach]

I already did...

[Rorschach]

Ok Nef... you owe me...

Thanks for nothing Mods.... useless individuals that you are.

NEFERTI

So, what is an extreme right winger? What political views make you think some people are this? List them, as I would be very interested to know.

there are many things. For starters they have an adherence to small govt., low taxes, closed borders and protectionism, usually opposed to the social justice policies such as unemployment benefits and minimum wages etc. You don't have to be a bible basher to believe in these things

I don't believe in any of that stuff you have stated. However, I would NEVER EVER vote for the ALP/Socialist Party. What I earn is MINE not yours. I expect ME to earn a living and make ends meet, not The Government.

EVERYBODY can get a JOB, if they put their mind to it and NOT rely on hand outs, get themselves out of the BOG that IS Government welfare!

IF you can't find a job in your "preferred" location or industry .... go elsewhere, stop being so PRECIOUS (poor me, I have to move to earn money) ... apply to join the Army, Airforce or Navy .... I wonder whether they have a "waiting list" ......

THINK you lot who are either unemployed or under-employed.

Kids who are currently at Uni are also very unlikely to get a JOB once they graduate.

Being 50+ is NOT an excuse ... you are probably too old and set in your ways for the JOB you felt you were good at but ....... TRY something else ... go ON. Life doesn't end at 50 because nobody wants you .... get out there and try .........

I am lucky that I retired way back and I don't rely on Government handouts ....

[Rorschach]

So, what is an extreme right winger? What political views make you think some people are this? List them, as I would be very interested to know.

there are many things. For starters they have an adherence to small govt., low taxes, closed borders and protectionism, usually opposed to the social justice policies such as unemployment benefits and minimum wages etc. You don't have to be a bible basher to believe in these things

I don't believe in any of that stuff you have stated. However, I would NEVER EVER vote for the ALP/Socialist Party. What I earn is MINE not yours. I expect ME to earn a living and make ends meet, not The Government.

EVERYBODY can get a JOB, if they put their mind to it and NOT rely on hand outs, get themselves out of the BOG that IS Government welfare!

IF you can't find a job in your "preferred" location or industry .... go elsewhere, stop being so PRECIOUS (poor me, I have to move to earn money) ... apply to join the Army, Airforce or Navy .... I wonder whether they have a "waiting list" ......

THINK you lot who are either unemployed or under-employed.

Kids who are currently at Uni are also very unlikely to get a JOB once they graduate.

Being 50+ is NOT an excuse ... you are probably too old and set in your ways for the JOB you felt you were good at but ....... TRY something else ... go ON. Life doesn't end at 50 because nobody wants you .... get out there and try .........

I am lucky that I retired way back and I don't rely on Government handouts ...

Sorry NEF but most of that was a load of total shyte...

[Rorschach]

NEFERTI

So, what is an extreme right winger? What political views make you think some people are this? List them, as I would be very interested to know.

there are many things. For starters they have an adherence to small govt., low taxes, closed borders and protectionism, usually opposed to the social justice policies such as unemployment benefits and minimum wages etc. You don't have to be a bible basher to believe in these things

I don't believe in any of that stuff you have stated. However, I would NEVER EVER vote for the ALP/Socialist Party. What I earn is MINE not yours. I expect ME to earn a living and make ends meet, not The Government.

EVERYBODY can get a JOB, if they put their mind to it and NOT rely on hand outs, get themselves out of the BOG that IS Government welfare!

IF you can't find a job in your "preferred" location or industry .... go elsewhere, stop being so PRECIOUS (poor me, I have to move to earn money) ... apply to join the Army, Airforce or Navy .... I wonder whether they have a "waiting list" ......

THINK you lot who are either unemployed or under-employed.

Kids who are currently at Uni are also very unlikely to get a JOB once they graduate.

Being 50+ is NOT an excuse ... you are probably too old and set in your ways for the JOB you felt you were good at but ....... TRY something else ... go ON. Life doesn't end at 50 because nobody wants you .... get out there and try .........

I am lucky that I retired way back and I don't rely on Government handouts ....

Sorry NEF but most of that was a load of total shyte...

Sorry, but aren't you supposed to change "careers" many times during your working life? Just because you got a degree as say, a solicitor when you were a young person it doesn't mean that you can't give that up and drive taxis, work in the Golf Club House as a waiter or start your own small business as a Home Handyman, cleaning swimming pools, mowing lawns, cleaning gutters or you could apply at the local Council to do the garbage truck run .... there's a whole variety of other jobs you can have a go at, can't you?

Try something entirely different to what you were "trained" to do. What about Real Estate? That's apparently a good earner. Are there still Travelling Salespersons, that used to earn a good income too. Gift of the gab.

Most jobs don't need much "experience", just the gift of the gab to get your foot in the door. Pump yourself up! Most guys are capable of bragging without blinking an eye. Anything would be better for the soul than getting Unemployment Benefits, surely.

[Rorschach]

there are many things. For starters they have an adherence to small govt., low taxes, closed borders and protectionism, usually opposed to the social justice policies such as unemployment benefits and minimum wages etc. You don't have to be a bible basher to believe in these things

I don't believe in any of that stuff you have stated. However, I would NEVER EVER vote for the ALP/Socialist Party. What I earn is MINE not yours. I expect ME to earn a living and make ends meet, not The Government.

EVERYBODY can get a JOB, NOPE... Australia has 620,000 more unemployed than jobs and that doesn't include the UNDEREMPLOYED. if they put their mind to it and NOT rely on hand outs, get themselves out of the BOG that IS Government welfare! NOPE...

IF you can't find a job in your "preferred" location or industry .... go elsewhere, stop being so PRECIOUS (poor me, I have to move to earn money) ... apply to join the Army, Airforce or Navy .... I wonder whether they have a "waiting list" ...... Armed forces... you have to pass the medical and be under 55... most unemployed are mature aged. Even young people just out of school if they have a fair case of acne do not pass the physical for the Air Force.

THINK you lot who are either unemployed or under-employed. 770,000 UNEMPLOYED 620,000 would still be unemployed if the 150,000 available jobs were taken. NOT ENOUGH JOBS TO GO 'ROUND...

Kids who are currently at Uni are also very unlikely to get a JOB once they graduate.

Being 50+ is NOT an excuse ... you are probably too old and set in your ways for the JOB you felt you were good at but ....... TRY something else ... go ON. Life doesn't end at 50 because nobody wants you .... get out there and try ......... SEE ABOVE... its not about me BTW... its about all unemployed.... you are clueless about today's employment situation.

I am lucky that I retired way back and I don't rely on Government handouts .... Lucky YES.... others have been UNLUCKY...

Sorry NEF but most of that was a load of total shyte...

Sorry, but aren't you supposed to change "careers" many times during your working life? NOPE... Just because you got a degree as say, a solicitor when you were a young person it doesn't mean that you can't give that up and drive taxis, work in the Golf Club House as a waiter or start your own small business as a Home Handyman, cleaning swimming pools, mowing lawns, cleaning gutters or you could apply at the local Council to do the garbage truck run .... there's a whole variety of other jobs you can have a go at, can't you? Yes, but first there has to be a job to apply for... then for some reason known only to the employers or HR, you may not be given the job. Lots of things; experience, age, sex, education, religion, culture, etc, etc, etc can get in the way of being employed.

Try something entirely different to what you were "trained" to do. What about Real Estate? OK, then first you need a car, a real estate licence, usually experience, be fit enough to walk neighbourhoods and initially get 1000 new clients for the books, then you may get the job. Of course they may ask for experience in RE, marjeting rental management etc, etc, etc... as well. That's apparently a good earner. Are there still Travelling Salespersons, that used to earn a good income too. Gift of the gab. Door to door sales eh.... sorry died with the Internet and google.

Most jobs don't need much "experience", just the gift of the gab to get your foot in the door. Nope. Untrue. Pump yourself up! Most guys are capable of bragging without blinking an eye. Anything would be better for the soul than getting Unemployment Benefits, surely. I'm too busy these days to do more than I am... and its full on, full time... even though the pay is lousy.