Labor liars - the budget reply.

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Re: Labor liars - the budget reply.

Post by Rorschach » Sat May 13, 2017 11:03 am

Excerpts from that well know political progressive Paul Kelly...

How did the Opposition Leader respond?
In his budget reply Shorten doubled down on the strategy that nearly made him PM last year — he wants more redistribution and class warfare; more taxes on companies, multinationals and upper middle to high income earners; vastly more educa­tion spending and rejection of univer­sity cuts; he upholds penalty rates, backs the banks levy, still demands a royal commission, claims Turnbull and the Treasurer aren’t strong enough to stand up to the banks, and wants a top marginal rate of 49.5 per cent (you work for yourself one day and government the next).
The more Turnbull moves to the Centre... the more Shorten will move to the Left, the more ideological hatred will influence labor policies and negativity. They are certain negative campaigns will deliver them government.
A far more pragmatic Turnbull now embraces the 2013 Gillard agenda including the Gonski school model and seeks to fully fund the National Disability Insurance Scheme via the Labor way of another 0.5 per cent increase in the Medicare levy. But Shorten savages both decisions. To retain product differentiation he pledges another $22 billion for Gonski funding, frankly a ludicrous figure, and wants the Medicare levy increase limited to those earning above $87,001.
Shorten will abandon the Hawke and Keating pragmatism and economic responsibility, for policies that are once again unfunded and will again lead to larger debt and deficit.
This is the looming political contest that defines our times. We live in a time of reaction, public denial, shallow debate, self-interest and national interest decline.

For Labor, Gonski and the NDIS are icons of political identity and ideological symbolism that assume almost irrational proportions — hence the determination to massively outbid the Liberals on school funds and insist, contrary to the budget papers, that the NDIS is “fully funded” when the government seeks to plug a huge $55bn shortfall over the coming decade.
Shorten is protesting too much, so what else is new?
The truth is that Labor is being squeezed by Turnbull’s dramatic repositioning. Shorten is desperate to keep his product differentiation from Turnbull on fairness, redistribution and company bashing, and the danger is that he goes too far and risks the middle ground. The Australian ethos is becoming far more progressive but Labor is in front of the trend.
Turnbull is doing a Rudd... remember how he was "Howard lite"?
shorten was in furious denial, saying of Morrison’s Tuesday performance: “This is not a Labor budget.” Morrison also agrees it is not a Labor budget. The reality, however, is that probably no budget in the past 40 years has so ruthlessly seized the framework of its opposition — witness targeting the banks, embracing Gonski, funding the NDIS, taxing foreign workers, guaranteeing Medicare, boosting infrastructure via “good” debt accounting and tackling the deficit through higher taxes. That’s comprehensive.

It is an admission of reality: that neither the public nor parliament will tolerate unpopular policies and spending cuts to deliver the surplus and intergenerational fairness we need. Turnbull and Morrison bowing before this truth is a turning point for the nation.
More hypocrisy from Shorten...
Labor’s big new play, however, was its attack on Turnbull’s proposed increase in the Medicare levy from 2 per cent to 2.5 per cent, designed to raise $50bn over 10 years and finance the NDIS funding gap. This is a proven Labor policy — in its triumphal last Gillard budget Labor announced the NDIS with an increase in the Medicare levy from 1.5 per cent to 2 per cent to finance it.

In short, this is another example of Turnbull adopting a Labor policy. The NDIS is a national project for the disabled. Is it fair to expect the entire community to contribute? This is what Labor believed in 2013 in government but does not believe in 2017 in opposition. What has changed?
The key is Labor’s insistence that the NDIS is a Labor policy, that it is fully funded and that the Liberals, somehow or other, want to undermine it. Social Services Minister Christian Porter says: “Labor has never funded the NDIS. They left a $4bn annual funding gap in the NDIS from 2019-20 which grows each and every year … Labor’s claims that it ‘clearly identified’ enough ‘other’ savings to pay for the funding gap is a lie.” Labor’s full savings were never set aside or allocated to a fund to support the NDIS. “They ended up being washed away by Labor’s increasing cumulative budget deficits,” Porter says. The govern­ment’s proposed increase in the Medicare levy is poetic justice, doing to Labor exactly what Labor did to the Coalition via its own Medicare levy increase.
Anyone for fairness?
Shorten’s claim the NDIS is fully funded is not tenable — but if that is the case, why is Labor supporting an increase in the Medicare levy anyway? Given its posi­tion it now needs to explain how it would fill the NDIS funding gap as shown in the current budget.

This promises to be a bitter and emotional debate. Shorten plays to the hip pocket. But Labor is vulnerable. It has changed its position, makes untenable claims and has decided to make NDIS funding a political issue. This saga is a case study in the class, fairness and redistributional conflict now at the heart of our politics.
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Re: Labor liars - the budget reply.

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sat May 13, 2017 7:24 pm

J o h n S m i t h wrote:IQ would rather die than pay his fair share.
Sir Bobby wrote:Dear IQ - are you paying your fair share of tax?
I have never paid my fair share of tax.
I've paid my 'unfair' share of tax.
Which would be 100x more than Smith has paid, but strangely the figure or % isn't important to communomarxists like Smith.
The only thing important is to repeat squealing the mantra "the rich should pay more" and "it isn't fair"

Smith doesn't care that the poor under capitalism are richer and better off than the poor or even middle class under his socialixism.
Results mean nothing and distribution to the comrades is all that matters so "equality" is achieved.

"Equality" under a Smith commumarxist system leads only to a society where everyone is equally fucked, poor and miserable.
Just like he is.
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Re: Labor liars - the budget reply.

Post by J o h n S m i t h » Sat May 13, 2017 8:14 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote:I've paid my 'unfair' share of tax
no need for you to prove my point for me
IQS.RLOW wrote:Which would be 100x more than Smith has paid,
once again we have IQ pretending to have a clue :rofl :rofl :rofl

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Re: Labor liars - the budget reply.

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sat May 13, 2017 8:32 pm

J o h n S m i t h wrote:
IQS.RLOW wrote:I've paid my 'unfair' share of tax
no need for you to prove my point for me
You never had a point.
You only had Labor spin and propaganda via the meaningless and unquantifiable word "fair" 8-)
IQS.RLOW wrote:Which would be 100x more than Smith has paid,
once again we have IQ pretending to have a clue :rofl :rofl :rofl[/quote]
You're a grubby little appropriator of other people's money and a leftwing fucking moron.
It goes without saying that you're one of the low earning recipients of negative taxation, handouts and relying on govt assistance because you aren't capable of anything more. :hush :thumb :Hi
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Re: Labor liars - the budget reply.

Post by J o h n S m i t h » Sat May 13, 2017 9:02 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote: You never had a point.
sure I did, but not surprisingly, it was beyond your abilities to understand what it was
IQS.RLOW wrote: You're a grubby little appropriator of other people's money and a leftwing fucking moron.
still pretending to have a clue I see. One day, ifyou are lucky, and going on past performances you simply aren't that lucky, you might work it out. Until then you are destined to remain clueless for life

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Re: Labor liars - the budget reply.

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sun May 14, 2017 12:41 am

J o h n S m i t h wrote:
IQS.RLOW wrote: You never had a point.
sure I did, but not surprisingly, it was beyond your abilities to understand what it was
IQS.RLOW wrote: You're a grubby little appropriator of other people's money and a leftwing fucking moron.
still pretending to have a clue I see. One day, ifyou are lucky, and going on past performances you simply aren't that lucky, you might work it out. Until then you are destined to remain clueless for life
You are easily recognisable as a typical clueless grubby lefty although you seem to be pushing the left hand side of the bell curve of lefty intelligence, so it's quite possible that your earning potential is even lower than most lefties and the income you receive from govt sanctioned stealing from others to finance your lifestyle is the major source of funds.

You probably feel angry for your lot in life deep down but think you are entitled to OPM because of your lack of intelligence and inability to make it past whatever menial position you occupy. But appropriating OPM gives you some kind of perverse satisfaction that fills the void that successful search to fill with meaningful, productive employment.

You are probably already aware that you aren't productive and your position should have been made redundant a decade ago but instead you think you should be thankful to the union for 'protecting' you and keeping you in an unproductive job where you have gotten used to doing the bare minimum. So instead of seeking higher ground through advancing and opportunities, you've taken the lazy security road and replaced the desire to seek success with desire to suck off success.

With no prospect of a productive reward, you now live for what you can get the govt to take off those that are.
What a fulfilling life that must be for you!

I'd be pretty bitter and twisted too with your life.
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Re: Labor liars - the budget reply.

Post by J o h n S m i t h » Sun May 14, 2017 9:23 am

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

you need to tkae your tin foil cap off cause your stupidity keeps reflecting back into your brain

never been a member of any union
had my own business in one form or another for over 20 years.



you want to try again? :giggle :giggle :giggle :giggle

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Re: Labor liars - the budget reply.

Post by Bobby » Sun May 14, 2017 1:15 pm

J o h n S m i t h wrote::rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

you need to tkae your tin foil cap off cause your stupidity keeps reflecting back into your brain

never been a member of any union
had my own business in one form or another for over 20 years.

you want to try again? :giggle :giggle :giggle :giggle

You tell him John,
don't let IQ getaway with making up stories about you.

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Re: Labor liars - the budget reply.

Post by J o h n S m i t h » Sun May 14, 2017 2:23 pm

Sir Bobby wrote: You tell him John,
don't let IQ getaway with making up stories about you.
it won't matter, like you he'll just keep repeating his rubbish periodically

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Re: Labor liars - the budget reply.

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon May 15, 2017 12:03 am

J o h n S m i t h wrote::rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

you need to tkae your tin foil cap off cause your stupidity keeps reflecting back into your brain

never been a member of any union
had my own business in one form or another for over 20 years.



you want to try again? :giggle :giggle :giggle :giggle
You're a realtors arsehole. You take the shit rental crap that no realtor wants to waste time on while there is real money to be had.
Perhaps being the overbearing rental inspector for slum lords to the poor makes you feel better about being the lowest tier on the real estate ladder. :lol:

You should be thankful most of the rich owners RE assets are prepared to not lower themselves to doing what they can pay a pleb like you to play arsehole for them. :thumb
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