"Fair" is a word used by parasites.

[IQS.RLOW]

Yes just wait for the service to drop and the prices to rise!

Just like :

Private Health Insurance
Jobs Services Australia rip off merchants replacing CES
Electricity
Commonwealth Bank
NDIS
My Aged Care Providers
Telstra

I can tell you have no research, no figures, no proof and no idea.

...all are known for poor service and overcharging ...

Thanks for admitting you have no research, no figures, no proof and still no fucking idea.

[Redneck]

Yes just wait for the service to drop and the prices to rise!

Just like :

Private Health Insurance
Jobs Services Australia rip off merchants replacing CES
Electricity
Commonwealth Bank
NDIS
My Aged Care Providers
Telstra

I can tell you have no research, no figures, no proof and no idea.

...all are known for poor service and overcharging ...

Thanks for admitting you have no research, no figures, no proof and still no fucking idea.

No just don't want to waste my time explaining anything to a fkwit like you!

Especially when you know I am correct in each case mentioned!

[Bobby]

I already saw that.
It prompted this thread to try and educate and improve how little you understand about how much the the top 25% contributes compared to the lefty parasites .
Let me know when you post your retraction and the graph on the other thread and apologize for your stupidity.

No retraction:

The rich are getting richer - the poor get the picture:

Interesting to me was the direction the middle 50% were going ...down.

And of course Gina and co were going up.

Fortunately IQ we live in a society that tries to look after the poorer members of our society.

The rich and middle class will have to suck it up and be happy not to see beggers in the street!

If you would like to live in some South African country where the poor starve by all means leave.

So despite the top 25% already paying 70% of the tax base, you want to soak them for more?

How about being really "fair" and reduce govt spending to relieve the tax burden on everyone?
But you lefty's don't think that is "fair" because if there is any reduction then you'll cry because the top 25% get back more. This is one of the reasons our tax system is so complicated.

Whinging slacker Leftys think they can have a regressive tax scale system to punish hard workers and the better off, but immediately go into hysterics when rebates apply or taxes are reduced because "waaahhhh they get more than me" Well fucking duh That's the way a regressive tax system works on the way down if the lefty's want to punish hard workers on the way up.

Fucking parasites who think the govt should tax more and have more handouts rather than less.
Leftwing ideology stifles people's creativity, drive and ambition by making people dependent on other people's money while continually emptying the pockets of those that are creative, have drive and are successful.

Most of govt should have gone the way of unions, reduced down to 15-20%.
Like unions, no one will notice except when they realise they aren't being robbed so much.

They aren't needed anymore and advocates for both are lazy parasites who should suck cock in hell for Satan

Meanwhile the rich use offshore tax havens to get out of paying tax.
PAYE wage earners can't get out of paying a cent.

[IQS.RLOW]

Yes just wait for the service to drop and the prices to rise!

Just like :

Private Health Insurance
Jobs Services Australia rip off merchants replacing CES
Electricity
Commonwealth Bank
NDIS
My Aged Care Providers
Telstra

I can tell you have no research, no figures, no proof and no idea.

Private health insurance: reduced expenditure and overcrowding on the public system= less cost to taxpayers overall.
JSA: Reduced cost to taxpayers.
Electricity: Excluding lefty induced hysteria price increases because of the RET, carbon taxes etc, Reduced cost to taxpayers as previously prices were subsidized by the taxpayer.
Commonwealth bank: Competition has reduced banking costs. Superannuation funds have access and are increased.
NDIS: Doesn't exist.
Your aged care providers: Your problem. You pay for it. Government system was no better. Reduced cost to taxpayers.
Telstra: Increased competition. Phone costs greatly reduced. Mobile plans less than 50% of Telstra cost and still using their network.

Try again, sunshine.

[IQS.RLOW]

I already saw that.
It prompted this thread to try and educate and improve how little you understand about how much the the top 25% contributes compared to the lefty parasites .
Let me know when you post your retraction and the graph on the other thread and apologize for your stupidity.

No retraction:

The rich are getting richer - the poor get the picture:

Interesting to me was the direction the middle 50% were going ...down.

And of course Gina and co were going up.

Fortunately IQ we live in a society that tries to look after the poorer members of our society.

The rich and middle class will have to suck it up and be happy not to see beggers in the street!

If you would like to live in some South African country where the poor starve by all means leave.

So despite the top 25% already paying 70% of the tax base, you want to soak them for more?

How about being really "fair" and reduce govt spending to relieve the tax burden on everyone?
But you lefty's don't think that is "fair" because if there is any reduction then you'll cry because the top 25% get back more. This is one of the reasons our tax system is so complicated.

Whinging slacker Leftys think they can have a regressive tax scale system to punish hard workers and the better off, but immediately go into hysterics when rebates apply or taxes are reduced because "waaahhhh they get more than me" Well fucking duh That's the way a regressive tax system works on the way down if the lefty's want to punish hard workers on the way up.

Fucking parasites who think the govt should tax more and have more handouts rather than less.
Leftwing ideology stifles people's creativity, drive and ambition by making people dependent on other people's money while continually emptying the pockets of those that are creative, have drive and are successful.

Most of govt should have gone the way of unions, reduced down to 15-20%.
Like unions, no one will notice except when they realise they aren't being robbed so much.

They aren't needed anymore and advocates for both are lazy parasites who should suck cock in hell for Satan

Meanwhile the rich use offshore tax havens to get out of paying tax.

Another with no evidence, proof, or idea.

PAYE wage earners can't get out of paying a cent.

Why should you? That's your fair share if you don't have any costs that can be deducted.
If you want the pain of having to have a gross income start a business or become a contractor.
You too can enjoy the tax deductions along with the accountant fees, record keeping, quarterly GST payments, cash flow problems, taxed in advance, business licence and other associated costs.

You won't though, you'll just continue to sook like a lefty pointing fingers and whining "but what about them? I deserve to not pay my fair share"

[Redneck]

Yes just wait for the service to drop and the prices to rise!

Just like :

Private Health Insurance
Jobs Services Australia rip off merchants replacing CES
Electricity
Commonwealth Bank
NDIS
My Aged Care Providers
Telstra

I can tell you have no research, no figures, no proof and no idea.

Private health insurance: reduced expenditure and overcrowding on the public system= less cost to taxpayers overall.
JSA: Reduced cost to taxpayers.
Electricity: Excluding lefty induced hysteria price increases because of the RET, carbon taxes etc, Reduced cost to taxpayers as previously prices were subsidized by the taxpayer.
Commonwealth bank: Competition has reduced banking costs. Superannuation funds have access and are increased.
NDIS: Doesn't exist.
Your aged care providers: Your problem. You pay for it. Government system was no better. Reduced cost to taxpayers.
Telstra: Increased competition. Phone costs greatly reduced. Mobile plans less than 50% of Telstra cost and still using their network.

Try again, sunshine.

Errr are you really that stupid!

Private health insurance: reduced expenditure and overcrowding on the public system= less cost to taxpayers overall.

Nonsense half of the massive subsidy of this grab for cash would be better put into Medicare and the other half into general revenue and we would have the best system in the world.

JSA: Reduced cost to taxpayers.

Bullshit, for a start if you can concentrate for more than 30 minutes watch this 4 corners exposure of the JSA ripoffs that the government has made no attempt at following up. They are still scamming the government with among other things dodgy course charges and failing miserably at getting jobs for the unemployed
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/ ... 183437.htm

Electricity: Excluding lefty induced hysteria price increases because of the RET, carbon taxes etc, Reduced cost to taxpayers as previously prices were subsidized by the taxpayer.

PRICES HAVE GONE UP VIRTUALLY AUSTRALIA WIDE HOW IS THAT REDUCED COST CHILD BRAIN!

Commonwealth bank: Competition has reduced banking costs. Superannuation funds have access and are increased.

Perhaps you can show us some of your links to prove that sounds like bullshit to me! As a matter of interest how has the cost of credit cards been reduced?

NDIS: Doesn't exist.

Your brain doesnt exist

Your aged care providers: Your problem. You pay for it. Government system was no better. Reduced cost to taxpayers.

Bullshit just another scam Mr Gov.

Telstra: Increased competition. Phone costs greatly reduced. Mobile plans less than 50% of Telstra cost and still using their network.

You think so then why did Telstra get excluded from the new network contract? Ripping us off genius!

[IQS.RLOW]

PHI cost = $2.5Bn 30% rebate = $7.5Bn total cost added to Medicare when people drop insurance.
Medicare cost= $20Bn+ - half reds savings $1.75Bn + $7.5Bn
Medicare = $25.75Bn
Overall cost increase to all taxpayers = $5.75Bn

Great plan

The rest of your shit has just as many holes but I really can't be fucked handing you your arse on every point because you are too fucking stupid to learn or research any facts for yourself.

So good day sir


...now fuck off and die.

[Redneck]

PHI cost = $2.5Bn 30% rebate = $7.5Bn total cost added to Medicare when people drop insurance.
Medicare cost= $20Bn+ - half reds savings $1.75Bn + $7.5Bn
Medicare = $25.75Bn
Overall cost increase to all taxpayers = $5.75Bn

Great plan

The rest of your shit has just as many holes but I really can't be fucked handing you your arse on every point because you are too fucking stupid to learn or research any facts for yourself.

So good day sir


...now fuck off and die.

They sound like bullshit figures to me retard!

[IQS.RLOW]

PHI cost = $2.5Bn 30% rebate = $7.5Bn total cost added to Medicare when people drop insurance.
Medicare cost= $20Bn+ - half reds savings $1.75Bn + $7.5Bn
Medicare = $25.75Bn
Overall cost increase to all taxpayers = $5.75Bn

Great plan

The rest of your shit has just as many holes but I really can't be fucked handing you your arse on every point because you are too fucking stupid to learn or research any facts for yourself.

So good day sir


...now fuck off and die.

They sound like bullshit figures to me retard!

Nope. The figures are correct.

Here's​ another one of me embarrassing you because you're a retarded lefty who doesn't have a clue.

Bullshit, for a start if you can concentrate for more than 30 minutes watch this 4 corners exposure of the JSA ripoffs that the government has made no attempt at following up. They are still scamming the government with among other things dodgy course charges and failing miserably at getting jobs for the unemployed
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/ ... 183437.htm

At the end of the day, the taxpayer was scammed a tiny fraction of the overall budget for JSA, plus they were caught, so how are they getting away with it?
But let's get back to the actual premise of the JSA vs CES and not your tossing of red herrings.

Compared to the CES, JSA is between 1/3 and 1/2 the cost of the Labor policy with similar results.

...it is generally agreed that, until the introduction of the Active Participation Model, these outcomes were not significantly different from those obtained under Working Nation.[54] That said, based on available data, the Job Network is substantially more cost-effective overall than its predecessor Working Nation programs.[55] It was reported in 2002 that while Labor s spending on Working Nation averaged $3.7 billion a year, the Coalition Government s spending on labour market programs averaged $1.3 billion (with the Job Network only accounting for $750 million of this figure).[56] For every person who found employment, it was estimated that the Coalition Government had spent between $5000 and $6000, compared to the figure of between $10000 and $16000 spent under Labor s Working Nation programs.[57]

I can continue to shoot down every single point you have with facts, figures and the truth, but I don't think you are capable of being educated because all you really want to do is spread lies and bullshit like a good little lefty flying retarded monkey.

[Redneck]

All sounded like bullshit to me!

You wouldn't know shit from clay in my opinion!

But do carry on wanker!