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Re: Driverless cars from $20k

Post by J o h n S m i t h » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:03 am

Black Orchid wrote:
J o h n S m i t h wrote:no it doesn't, it just redirects your thinking to other, less mundane tasks
Like?

whatever people think about when not thinking of cooking, cleaning or driving.

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Re: Driverless cars from $20k

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:40 am

J o h n S m i t h wrote:
Black Orchid wrote:
J o h n S m i t h wrote:no it doesn't, it just redirects your thinking to other, less mundane tasks
Like?

whatever people think about when not thinking of cooking, cleaning or driving.
Daydreaming? That's not exactly a proficient method for keeping your brain agile and in top shape.

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Re: Driverless cars from $20k

Post by Neferti » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:47 am

Apparently, men think about sex every 7 seconds or something ... not having to concentrate on driving might be a good idea. :rofl

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Re: Driverless cars from $20k

Post by J o h n S m i t h » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:22 pm

Black Orchid wrote: Daydreaming? That's not exactly a proficient method for keeping your brain agile and in top shape.
neither is cleaning, driving or cooking. Man was only able to progress as a society when he didn't need to spend all day hunting and gathering food. Steve Jobs would never have developed apple if he was busy cooking and cleaning all day. It was the downtime he had that allowed him to further develop what started as a dream.
Neferti~ wrote: Apparently, men think about sex every 7 seconds or something ... not having to concentrate on driving might be a good idea.
there you go, that's already a better use of time :lol:

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Re: Driverless cars from $20k

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:23 pm

So far several autonomous vehicles have caused crashes and been ordered off the road.

If I was dictator, you would be free to buy one, but only as an ornament for your garage prestige, because I would make them unregisterable by designating manual controls a mandatory part of ADS (Australian Design Rules).

EDIT ADDITION: People who desire driverless cars do so because they know they lack the competence to drive properly.
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Re: Driverless cars from $20k

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:04 pm

J o h n S m i t h wrote:
Black Orchid wrote: Daydreaming? That's not exactly a proficient method for keeping your brain agile and in top shape.
neither is cleaning, driving or cooking. Man was only able to progress as a society when he didn't need to spend all day hunting and gathering food. Steve Jobs would never have developed apple if he was busy cooking and cleaning all day. It was the downtime he had that allowed him to further develop what started as a dream.

Cleaning is certainly mundane but cooking and driving are not. You need to use your brain and be alert to drive and you need all your senses for both. Is this what you have in mind for your free time?

Dinner with the family ...

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Then perhaps a stroll after dinner?

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Or a weekend away in your driverless car ...

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Some things just aren't really progress and if you can't drive and handle a vehicle you shouldn't have one period!

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Re: Driverless cars from $20k

Post by J o h n S m i t h » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:08 pm

is that what you do when not cooking BO? :roll: :roll:

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Re: Driverless cars from $20k

Post by J o h n S m i t h » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:10 pm

Outlaw Yogi wrote:So far several autonomous vehicles have caused crashes and been ordered off the road.

If I was dictator, you would be free to buy one, but only as an ornament for your garage prestige, because I would make them unregisterable by designating manual controls a mandatory part of ADS (Australian Design Rules).

EDIT ADDITION: People who desire driverless cars do so because they know they lack the competence to drive properly.
it's all new technology, you're always going to have a few accidents while they work out the kinks. Compare that to the number of accidents by cars with drivers?

I think they all have manual controls anyway.

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Re: Driverless cars from $20k

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:18 pm

J o h n S m i t h wrote:is that what you do when not cooking BO? :roll: :roll:
No I prefer real people rather than spending all my time on the phone or on internet forums 8-)

I also prefer to be in control of the car I am driving. When I can no longer drive I will get a gopher.

I wonder how long it will take before Gladys's driverless trains create havoc.

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Re: Driverless cars from $20k

Post by Neferti » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:58 pm

I'll start again! Grrr
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Computerised stuff has been around for donkeys yonks ... when things go awry, we need a human to fix it, since they (the humans) created whatever it is. Why would "automated" vehicles be any different?

A mobile phone is one thing ... a car that you don't control is something entirely different!

"We" have been predicting stuff forever .... Edward Bellamy (1859-1889) wrote a book called "Looking Back - 2000-1887) ... it was a huge seller in the day.
More here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bellamy
Bellamy's novel tells the story of a hero figure named Julian West, a young American who, towards the end of the 19th century, falls into a deep, hypnosis-induced sleep and wakes up one hundred and thirteen years later. He finds himself in the same location (Boston, Massachusetts), but in a totally changed world: It is the year 2000 and, while he was sleeping, the United States has been transformed into a socialist utopia. The remainder of the book outlines Bellamy's thoughts about improving the future. The major themes include problems associated with capitalism, a proposed socialist solution of a nationalization of all industry, the use of an "industrial army" to organize production and distribution, as well as how to ensure free cultural production under such conditions.

The young man readily finds a guide, Doctor Leete, who shows him around and explains all the advances of this new age; including drastically reduced working hours for people performing menial jobs and almost instantaneous, Internet-like delivery of goods. Everyone retires with full benefits at age 45, and may eat in any of the public kitchens. The productive capacity of the United States is nationally owned, and the goods of society are equally distributed to its citizens. A considerable portion of the book is dialogue between Leete and West wherein West expresses his confusion about how the future society works and Leete explains the answers using various methods, such as metaphors or direct comparisons with 19th-century society.
I think that somebody in the ALP has read this book. :rofl :rofl :rofl

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