How did you come to hold the beliefs you have?

Jovial Monk · Post by **Jovial Monk** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:43 pm

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extreme left - left - centre - right - extreme right, or

religious believer - atheist or agnostic

Back in 1966 having just started work in Dept of Army I guess I was very mildly right of centre. Boring Menzies was in power most of my life here. But conscription, the Vietnam War where the Vietnamese just wanted their country just like Indonesia, Malaysia etc had become free of colonial masters. Ridiculous crap fed to the sheeple like the domino theory didn't help!

Studying geology and learning of the 4.5 billion year history of the Earth and the mind-boggling extent of the universe put paid to any religious feeling I might have had left as a lapsed Catholic.

Nothing since that has happened or books I have read etc has changed either idea an iota. I have Das Kapital, Mein Kampf and Atlas Shrugged in my library.

So. . .you?

JWFrogen · Post by **JWFrogen** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:57 pm

Politically, Bosnia, it all goes back to Bosnia.

"Rosebud......Rosebud....."

Sexually, I just went with my mojo and the funfair.

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:58 pm

How did you come to hold the beliefs you have?
by Jovial Monk on Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:43 pm

Like

extreme left - left - centre - right - extreme right, or

religious believer - atheist or agnostic

Back in 1966 having just started work in Dept of Army I guess I was very mildly right of centre. Boring Menzies was in power most of my life here. But conscription, the Vietnam War where the Vietnamese just wanted their country just like Indonesia, Malaysia etc had become free of colonial masters. Ridiculous crap fed to the sheeple like the domino theory didn't help!

Studying geology and learning of the 4.5 billion year history of the Earth and the mind-boggling extent of the universe put paid to any religious feeling I might have had left as a lapsed Catholic.

Nothing since that has happened or books I have read etc has changed either idea an iota. I have Das Kapital, Mein Kampf and Atlas Shrugged in my library.

So. . .you?
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Re: How did you come to hold the beliefs you have?
by JWFrogen on Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:57 pm

Politically, Bosnia, it all goes back to Bosnia.

"Rosebud......Rosebud....."

Sexually, I just went with my mojo and the funfair.
JWFrogen

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Joined: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:48 am

I grew up in a heavily political household. Gladstone was a small town but home to a couple of the biggest industrial plants of their kind in the southern hemisphere.

Dad was a worksite delegate for the notorious BLF, an extremely passionate believer in revolutionary socialism and a member of the communist party. Strikes and rowdy industrial action were common and he was beaten once or twice by the bosses strikebreakers who knocked out a few of his teeth and broke his ribs (I don't ever remember him without missing teeth).

The plants were dangerous places to work in those days (politically motivated brawls notwithstanding), with little that we would recognise in the way of workplace health and safety. Men were run over by machinery, crushed to pulp under falling steel, incinerated in boiler furnaces and dissolved in tanks of sodium hydroxide (interesting note: if you ever visit the Gladstone alumina plant you will notice everywhere you look, baleful green lights in a giant structure that looks like a scene from the movie "Aliens". These are the showers that you are supposed to run to if you get doused in caustic soda. They are lit with green lights because green is apparently the last colour you are able to see before you go completely blind as your eyes melt from their sockets.)

Later on, he went to work up the road at the port as a tugboat deckie and was a member of the SUA which later became the MUA - another millitant union.

With all that, it's no wonder I became politically motivated.

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:05 pm

I should add that largely through the efforts of the union movement, these dangerous conditions have been greatly reduced (too late though to save his hearing which was destroyed by working in the vicinity of boiler relief valves).

Ravi · Post by **Ravi** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:47 pm

i actually work in at an industrial site in that very town at the moment and sadly the unions power has been largely eroded and the workplace health and safety although yelled loud and strong is basically a front. What they say happens and what actually does are two seperate things

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:43 am

Good to see you didn't get the chop like all those Yarwun site blokes Ravi! Though I did hear that a number were retrenched from the alumina plant and the smelter.

We'll have to have a beer sometime

JWFrogen · Post by **JWFrogen** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:16 pm

We are competeting with China now, we do not have the luxery of safety.

Sacrifice your body for the nation.

If not you are all worthless and weak.

Cue Twister Sister.

JWFrogen · Post by **JWFrogen** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:25 pm

I came to my beliefs in a orgasim erection of conviction.

Then I woke up in the morning and wondered, do I really believe this?

I am a primate, I can live with that.

Shared Puppet · Post by **Shared Puppet** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:23 am

JWFrogen wrote:I came to my beliefs in a orgasim erection of conviction.

Then I woke up in the morning and wondered, do I really believe this?

I am a primate, I can live with that.

I can get multiple orgasm without ejaculating. It saves on the laundry bill. Sometimes I can even get an orgasm without an erection. I must lack conviction.

Jovial Monk · Post by **Jovial Monk** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:30 am

Or balls.

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