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Re: Greens Split

Post by Rorschach » Wed Dec 28, 2016 3:15 pm

There is no such thing as Mainstream GREENS
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Re: Greens Split

Post by LEFTWINGER supreme » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:22 pm

Haven't worked out what greens are as they chop and change faster than a libtard policy

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Re: Greens Split

Post by Rorschach » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:27 pm

Left lurch a wake-up call: Lee Rhiannon’s partner
The Australian
January 3, 2017
Rachel Baxendale

The partner of Greens senator Lee Rhiannon has at­tacked the federal party and defended the far-left, anti-capitalist faction Left Renewal, further ­exposing turmoil within the Greens after leader Richard Di Natale suggested the new group should consider options outside the party.

Geoff Ash, Senator Rhiannon’s partner of more than 25 years and a founding member and registered officer of the NSW Greens, has written a Facebook post suggesting the formation of the group could be a “wake-up call” for the party establishment.

Formed last month, the group aims to bind its members in a formal faction system and end capitalism, which it describes as the “violent and antagonistic relation between workers and those who exploit them”.

“As workers, whether or not we are waged, we experience perpetual violence and this violence must be brought to an end. We therefore fight to bring about the end of capitalism,” its online manifesto says.

Senator Di Natale described the overthrow of capitalism as a “ridiculous notion” and suggested members unhappy with Greens policies “consider finding a new political home”.

In a post last week on the “Australian Greens politics, news and discussion” public Facebook page, which has more than 8600 members, Mr Ash said although he was not a member of Left Renewal, he was not at all surprised the group had formed.

“Not only is our suite of economic justice policies underdeveloped, some existing positions are soft,” he wrote, citing the axing of a “moderate policy” of inheritance tax on wealthy estates, funding private schools and ­ac­cepting corporate donations.

“The formation of Left Renewal is, I think, also a response to the position of the dominant Right grouping within the Greens, with its support for some undemocratic party structures and processes, and its vilification of some Left NSW figures in the party who have campaigned against that,” he wrote.

He accused the Right of the party of enabling a lack of grassroots democracy and the federal Greens partyroom of “making up its own rules, with the party having no say even though some of those rules are undemocratic”.

He cited the allocation of portfolios, the election of the leader “by just a small number of MPs”, a failure to define the powers of the leader and the constitutional right of Greens MPs (except in NSW) to defy party policy and decisions when voting in parliament “through the exercise of a highly elitist and undemocratic so-called conscience vote”, as showing the partyroom’s lack of democracy.

“Maybe the formation of the Left Renewal group will provide a wake-up call,” he wrote.

Senator Rhiannon could not be contacted for comment.

No state or federal MPs have joined the new group but Brigitte Holly, due to take up a position in Senator Rhiannon’s office soon, and Tamara Ryan, who until recently was on Senator Rhiannon’s federal parliamentary liaison committee, are supporters.

Tom Raue, a self-described anarchist, former Socialist Alternative member and staffer with NSW MP David Shoebridge, has called on Greens to join Left Renewal. Mr Shoebridge is not a member but defends its existence.

A spokesman for Senator Di Natale, who is on leave, said he had no further comment. Federal Greens sources are playing down the issue as a NSW matter.
Whoa.... just how far Prog Left do these Looneys want to go?
Communism here we come eh Greenies.... :du
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Re: Greens Split

Post by cods » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:13 pm

ban CAPITALISM...WOW...


so I guess SHE Lee will be taking a PAY CUT.. and saying NO TO HER PENSION.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




yes sir!!!!!... I can see that happening..

dont cha love a hypocrite....

THANKS GREENS..

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Re: Greens Split

Post by Juliar » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:29 am

Hard core Commo Greenie Lee Rhiannon longs for the old style militant activist Commo style stuff and the old dear wants to turn the passive Greenies into seething militant activist Greenie Terrorists just like the ISIS ISLAMICS in Europe.

The anti Christ Doc Dick is spluttering in fright as rumors spread that he is going to be burnt at the steak.

Frightening stuff!!!  Are we seeing the already predicted beginning of the end of the already dead Greenies ?

Lee Rhiannon reminds one of the witchlike Juliar Gillard - U half expect to see them sitting on a broom!!![/i]




Left lurch a wake-up call: Lee Riannon’s partner
RACHEL BAXENDALE Reporter Canberra The Australian 12:00AM January 3, 2017

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Greens Senator Lee Rhiannon.


The partner of Greens senator Lee Rhiannon has at­tacked the federal party and defended the far-left, anti-capitalist faction Left Renewal, further ­exposing turmoil within the Greens after leader Richard Di Natale suggested the new group should consider options outside the party.

Geoff Ash, Senator Rhiannon’s partner of more than 25 years and a founding member and registered officer of the NSW Greens, has written a Facebook post suggesting the formation of the group could be a “wake-up call” for the party establishment.

Formed last month, the group aims to bind its members in a formal faction system and end capitalism, which it describes as the “violent and antagonistic relation between workers and those who exploit them”.

“As workers, whether or not we are waged, we experience perpetual violence and this violence must be brought to an end. We therefore fight to bring about the end of capitalism,” its online manifesto says.

Image
Senator Di Natale described the overthrow of capitalism as a “ridiculous notion” and suggested members unhappy with Greens policies “consider finding a new political home”.

In a post last week on the “Australian Greens politics, news and discussion” public Facebook page, which has more than 8600 members, Mr Ash said although he was not a member of Left Renewal, he was not at all surprised the group had formed.

“Not only is our suite of economic justice policies underdeveloped, some existing positions are soft,” he wrote, citing the axing of a “moderate policy” of inheritance tax on wealthy estates, funding private schools and ­ac­cepting corporate donations.

“The formation of Left Renewal is, I think, also a response to the position of the dominant Right grouping within the Greens, with its support for some undemocratic party structures and processes, and its vilification of some Left NSW figures in the party who have campaigned against that,” he wrote.

He accused the Right of the party of enabling a lack of grassroots democracy and the federal Greens partyroom of “making up its own rules, with the party having no say even though some of those rules are undemocratic”.

He cited the allocation of portfolios, the election of the leader “by just a small number of MPs”, a failure to define the powers of the leader and the constitutional right of Greens MPs (except in NSW) to defy party policy and decisions when voting in parliament “through the exercise of a highly elitist and undemocratic so-called conscience vote”, as showing the partyroom’s lack of democracy.

“Maybe the formation of the Left Renewal group will provide a wake-up call,” he wrote.

Senator Rhiannon could not be contacted for comment.

No state or federal MPs have joined the new group but Brigitte Holly, due to take up a position in Senator Rhiannon’s office soon, and Tamara Ryan, who until recently was on Senator Rhiannon’s federal parliamentary liaison committee, are supporters.

Tom Raue, a self-described anarchist, former Socialist Alternative member and staffer with NSW MP David Shoebridge, has called on Greens to join Left Renewal. Mr Shoebridge is not a member but defends its existence.

A spokesman for Senator Di Natale, who is on leave, said he had no further comment. Federal Greens sources are playing down the issue as a NSW matter.

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Re: Greens Split

Post by mantra » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:39 am

Juliar wrote:Lee Rhiannon reminds one of the witchlike Juliar Gillard - U half expect to see them sitting on a broom!!![/i]
Gillard was still learning the job. Same as Abbott. She was headed in the right direction until Labor panicked.
Hard core Commo Greenie Lee Rhiannon longs for the old style militant activist Commo style stuff and the old dear wants to turn the passive Greenies into seething militant activist Greenie Terrorists just like the ISIS ISLAMICS in Europe.
Then there's no need to worry further. She's almost gone - and it's better for the Greens that she does go. They can move on without the obstacle, although they've been steadily doing that for many years.

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Re: Greens Split

Post by cods » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:11 am

trouble is mantra its another splinter group isnt it....just what we need...people vote for these miniscule groups to spite the big guns unually bitter people who really have totally no interest in the running of this country...... and all they do is bring chaos and dissent I have seen such a huge change in Australia since I first came and its not for the better sadly.

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Re: Greens Split

Post by mantra » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:16 am

cods wrote:trouble is mantra its another splinter group isnt it....just what we need...people vote for these miniscule groups to spite the big guns unually bitter people who really have totally no interest in the running of this country...... and all they do is bring chaos and dissent I have seen such a huge change in Australia since I first came and its not for the better sadly.
That is all true, but we are a democratic country apparently and even minority groups are allowed a voice. We could start building political prisons. That would solve a few problems.

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Re: Greens Split

Post by cods » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:30 am

mantra wrote:
cods wrote:trouble is mantra its another splinter group isnt it....just what we need...people vote for these miniscule groups to spite the big guns unually bitter people who really have totally no interest in the running of this country...... and all they do is bring chaos and dissent I have seen such a huge change in Australia since I first came and its not for the better sadly.
That is all true, but we are a democratic country apparently and even minority groups are allowed a voice. We could start building political prisons. That would solve a few problems.

oooooo you sound tough and I thin k the commies do that...lol...get rid of the opposition its called..

Lee is bad news though always has been drumming up boycotts because she can...whatever were the Greens thinking when they gave her a foothold I will never know....shows how much class they have I reckon. :oops:

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Re: Greens Split

Post by mantra » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:41 am

cods wrote:oooooo you sound tough and I thin k the commies do that...lol...get rid of the opposition its called..

Lee is bad news though always has been drumming up boycotts because she can...whatever were the Greens thinking when they gave her a foothold I will never know....shows how much class they have I reckon. :oops:
Haha. The Greens try to work with the opposition. Most of them aren't communists regardless of the intense propaganda saying they are.

Bob Brown gave everyone a chance and he probably appreciated Rhiannon's support when the party was created. He had class Cods. You won't find anyone as decent as him again amongst our politicians.

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