Regressive "Tolerance"

[Black Orchid]

He’s a hurricane of fresh air, this university professor who baldly says that one of the many reasons he won’t adopt the faddish new non-binary gender pronouns is that “the people who made those words are possessed by ideology and not to be trusted anyway.”

In fact, Dr. Jordan Peterson, the man at the centre of a freedom-of-speech battle at the University of Toronto, isn’t even certain that the whole gender-identity/gender-expression issue isn’t really at heart a question of fashion.

“Because the logic underlying the arguments is that … biological sex, gender identity and gender expression vary independently,” he says — noting quickly that that is “absolutely contradicted by the data,” which shows 98% of people have the same gender identity as their biological sex — “it has become unmoored from the underlying reality” and is “all interpretation.”

“Well, if it’s all interpretation it’s not distinguishable from fashion,” he says.

Peterson isn’t being mischievous or just idly stirring the pot.

Nor was he doing that when he posted three new videos to his YouTube channel late last month, thinking through on his feet, as he has done for years, the dangers of the looming federal Bill C-16 and how it will beautifully and terrifyingly meld with the policies already enshrined in the Ontario Human Rights Code.

It was during one of these videos that Peterson criticized the use of gender-neutral pronouns and drew the ire of self-appointed “social justice warriors” both at the school and outside it.

That led, in swift succession, to two warning letters from the university — one dated Oct. 18 from the dean of the faculty of arts and science, Peterson correctly calls “an exemplar of Orwellian doublespeak” — a free-speech rally and counter-protests and complaints against him.

He’s a psychologist, author and intellectual heavyweight whose life’s work has been the study of authoritarianism.

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To borrow a modern term, the trigger for his concern about gender neutrality sprang from his clinical practice.

“I’ve had a number of clients who have been bullied into states of mental uncertainty by their politically correct peers,” he says.

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“One of the things I’ve come to understand is that the central functional axiom of Western civilization is that language … is the process that keeps chaos and order in balance … and that when (language is) corrupted, we careen into chaos or pathological order.”

Having, as New York City has now recognized, 31 gender identities and expressions — from “bi-gendered to “agender” to “gender-gifted” and “gender-bender” and “gender-fluid,” all protected from discrimination — is “just not tenable.”

“We’re going to have 31 different classes of pronouns? No, we’re not. It’s just not possible. People can’t do that. Our language doesn’t allow for that; we can’t remember that; what if we make a mistake?”

“We use ‘he’ and ‘she,’ and we use ‘they’ when there’s more than one person, and we do that for purposes of simplicity of interaction.

“And for you to come to say, ‘You have to mark me out as singularly special in the manner that I require and you have to remember it,’ no, it’s like, no, you can’t ask that of me, because you’re actually not singularly special.”

He’s braced for the next shoe to drop: A student who asks him to use a preferred pronoun, or a complaint at the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal. “Perhaps that won’t happen and let’s hope it doesn’t,” says the warrior for common sense and plain speech, “but there is an element of logical necessity to it.”

More at http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comme ... mmon-sense

More leftie "regressive" nonsense.

[Black Orchid]

Bullied by "tolerant" students as apparently some tranny students “didn’t feel safe” because one professor refused to call them by their preferred gender pronoun.

From Steven Crowder ...

Practically the entire campus wants to punish this guy for not participating in their progressiveness. Hundreds of them felt the need to put their heads together to “fix the problem.” And the solution they picked? A cowardly letter demanding Peterson to stop doing that stuff. “That stuff” referring to… things they don’t like, because feelings. Students are also being proactive by staging protests and harassing him on campus. But remember, he’s the bad guy here.

Pronouns. Safety. They’re bullying him because of words. Because he’s refusing to go along with their fantasy that they’re anything other than weirdos who feel threatened with pronouns.

So it’s come down to 250 people vs 1 dude. All because of words, or lack thereof. Have I crystalized this enough for you?

Here we have an innocent chap harassed and bullied by bristling trannies until he conforms. Their reasoning? Everyone should be accepting of ALL identities… Unless your identity doesn’t adhere to leftist standards, of course. Welcome to Tolerance 101.

http://louderwithcrowder.com/canada-professor-pronouns/

Where will it end?

[Black Orchid]

[Rorschach]

Nope
They haven't been moved they are still here...

Good articles BTW.

[Black Orchid]

I am so glad you approve enough to transfer them into your thread

[mantra]

It might be hard for some generations to learn progressive tolerance, but the newest generation will have learnt to conform by the time they grow up. Our language will become unrecognisable to us if we were still alive in 100 years.

What a pity that we're not being allowed to stick to good old English Grammar.

[Rorschach]

You mean they will have been indoctrinated into stupidity and LW Progressive thought.

[Black Orchid]

It might be hard for some generations to learn progressive tolerance, but the newest generation will have learnt to conform by the time they grow up. Our language will become unrecognisable to us if we were still alive in 100 years.

What a pity that we're not being allowed to stick to good old English Grammar.

Our children are not even being taught correct English Grammar in schools now and with all these absurd pronouns popping up we are just being bombarded with hysterical nonsense for very small minorities.

[Neferti]

Our children are not even being taught correct English Grammar in schools now and with all these absurd pronouns popping up we are just being bombarded with hysterical nonsense for very small minorities.

I agree. However, I don't think it is really a recent thing .... I was taught correct English Grammar at school and apart from that, my parents spoke "proper English" and corrected us if we were wrong. I did the same with my daughter and corrected her friends if they ... for example ... started with "Me and my friends" .... it is "My friends and I". LOL

Most of us don't even think about homosexuals or transgenders or whatever .... we are all far too busy getting on with LIFE ... this is part of the problem ... THEY want to stir and the best thing we can do is IGNORE them.

[Rorschach]

I liked the way mantra used the word CONFORM

It might be hard for some generations to learn progressive tolerance, but the newest generation will have learnt to conform by the time they grow up

I'd rather be right than indoctrinated to CONFORM by the prog left.