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Re: US Presidential race

Post by Black Orchid » Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:38 am

She is entirely responsible for threatening (and laughing at) the victims of her husband's "infidelities".

Her record is extremely blemished and her morals are non existent.

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Re: US Presidential race

Post by mantra » Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:43 am

Black Orchid wrote:She is entirely responsible for threatening (and laughing at) the victims of her husband's "infidelities".

Her record is extremely blemished and her morals are non existent.
Have you got some some quotes and links where she's talked disrespectfully about men?

Have you got a quote and link where she's laughed at the victims of her husband's infidelities?

How many times was she unfaithful to Bill?

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Re: US Presidential race

Post by Black Orchid » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:27 am

mantra wrote:Have you got some some quotes and links where she's talked disrespectfully about men?
Any man, or woman, who claims that they have never made a lewd comment about the opposite sex is a liar. The fact that it was not necessarily recorded does not negate this fact.
mantra wrote:Have you got a quote and link where she's laughed at the victims of her husband's infidelities?
There are thousands of links out there. Here's just one ...

http://www.dailywire.com/news/9585/9-ti ... stigiacomo
mantra wrote:How many times was she unfaithful to Bill?
That's irrelevant. You do not have to be unfaithful to be morally inept.

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Re: US Presidential race

Post by mantra » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:36 am

Black Orchid wrote:
mantra wrote:Have you got some some quotes and links where she's talked disrespectfully about men?
Any man, or woman, who claims that they have never made a lewd comment about the opposite sex is a liar. The fact that it was not necessarily recorded does not negate this fact.
Speak for yourself. Maybe you don't know too many decent women. I don't speak lewdly about males nor have I heard great numbers of women talk about men lewdly as though they're brainless pieces of meat who are only useful for their body parts.
mantra wrote:Have you got a quote and link where she's laughed at the victims of her husband's infidelities?
There are thousands of links out there. Here's just one ...
No doubt she was hurt by her husband's behaviour and took it out on the females involved. She could have said a lot worse, but she didn't. Calling another female a bimbo is hardly an immoral or lewd comment.

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Re: US Presidential race

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:35 pm

Maybe I don't know many decent women? My my bitchy bitchy! That is a very bitchy thing to say Mantra and a very prudish and sad attitude you have. I imagine sex for you was only ever to procreate and you gritted your teeth and shut your eyes. There are degrees of lewdness and men are men and “locker room talk” is just that. He didn't say anything that shocking.

How about Hillary laughing on tape at the rape of a 12 year old girl. What excuses are you going to make for that? Here's a hint. There are none.

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Re: US Presidential race

Post by mantra » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:56 pm

There are plenty of people offended by Trump's comments - and it isn't just locker room talk. There are actually people who don't talk about the opposite sex the way Trump and others like him do. Pity you don't know any of them.
Black Orchid wrote:Maybe I don't know many decent women? My my bitchy bitchy! That is a very bitchy thing to say Mantra and a very prudish and sad attitude you have. I imagine sex for you was only ever to procreate and you gritted your teeth and shut your eyes.
You must be very bored with your life BO? Haven't you got anything better to do than brood about the sex life of someone on an online forum? Then again you are the self proclaimed expert on human nature aren't you? You have your own misguided diagnosis for everyone who doesn't agree with you.

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Re: US Presidential race

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:17 pm

mantra wrote:There are plenty of people offended by Trump's comments - and it isn't just locker room talk. There are actually people who don't talk about the opposite sex the way Trump and others like him do. Pity you don't know any of them.
Black Orchid wrote:Maybe I don't know many decent women? My my bitchy bitchy! That is a very bitchy thing to say Mantra and a very prudish and sad attitude you have. I imagine sex for you was only ever to procreate and you gritted your teeth and shut your eyes.
You must be very bored with your life BO? Haven't you got anything better to do than brood about the sex life of someone on an online forum? Then again you are the self proclaimed expert on human nature aren't you? You have your own misguided diagnosis for everyone who doesn't agree with you.
So now you claim that I don't know any decent women nor any men who don't talk about sex and that I am brooding about someone's sex life and I am the one dishing out misguided diagnoses? :shock:

Geez Mantra you never fail to bring out the accusations and bitterness when a woman disagrees with you, do you?

Attacks but no comments about Hillary laughing on tape about the rape of a 12 year old.

*shrugs*

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Re: US Presidential race

Post by DrMattus » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:53 pm

AiA in Atlanta wrote:Bill Clinton's popularity went up during his troubles with Monica. And Hillary was seen as the victim.
That's true, but it was a long time ago. The women could be (and were) dismissed as sluts looking for a paycheck or 15 minutes of fame. But I think society's attitudes towards women and towards non-consensual sex has changed a lot since then. Sure it's a desperate move by trump but it will turn a loss into a stalemate so he's going to take it, and everyone comes out looking like mutts.

Do you miss Bernie or what?

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Re: US Presidential race

Post by IQS.RLOW » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:37 pm

The women could be (and were) dismissed as sluts looking for a paycheck or 15 minutes of fame.
The democrat lefty media filth machine aiding and abetting filthy lefty democrats.
Human garbage.
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Re: US Presidential race

Post by mantra » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:24 pm

Black Orchid wrote:no comments about Hillary laughing on tape about the rape of a 12 year old.
There are also claims that this story is false. She was a young defense lawyer at the time and was appointed by a Judge to take the case. She wasn't able to refuse.

WHAT'S FALSE: Hillary Clinton did not volunteer to be the defendant's lawyer, she did not laugh about the case's outcome, she did not assert that the complainant "made up the rape story," she did not claim she knew the defendant to be guilty, and she did not "free" the defendant.

"According to Gibson, Maupin Cummings, the judge in the case, kept a list of attorneys who would represent poor clients. Clinton was on that list and helped run a legal aid clinic at the time."

ORIGIN:In May 2016, the image macro shown above began circulating on Facebook, holding that back in 1975 a young Hillary Clinton (then Hillary Rodham) had "volunteered" to represent a 42-year-old man (Thomas Alfred Taylor) who was accused of raping a 12-year-old girl, that Clinton told the judge in the case that the complainant "made up the rape story because [she] enjoyed fantasizing about older men, that Clinton "got [the] rapist freed," and that Clinton later admitted she knew the defendant was guilty and "laughed about" the outcome of the case. Although Hillary Clinton was indeed involved in a case of this nature, the aspects of the case presented in the image were largely inaccurate or exaggerated.

As Hillary Clinton wrote in her 2003 biography Living History, she didn't volunteer to represent the defendant, but rather was appointed to the case by the judge:

[Prosecuting attorney Mahlon Gibson] called me to tell me an indigent prisoner accused of raping a twelve-year-old girl wanted a woman lawyer. [Prosecutor Mahlon] Gibson had recommended that the criminal court judge, Maupin Cummings, appoint me. I told Mahlon I really didn’t feel comfortable taking on such a client, but Mahlon gently reminded me that I couldn’t very well refuse the judge’s request.

That assertion was backed up by the prosecuting attorney, Mahlon Gibson, as noted in a 2008 Newsday article about the case:

On May 21, 1975, Tom Taylor rose in court to demand that Washington County Judge Maupin Cummings allow him to fire his male court-appointed lawyer in favor of a female attorney. Taylor, who earned a meager wage at a paper bag factory and lived with relatives, had already spent 10 days in the county jail and was grasping for a way to avoid a 30 years-to-life term in the state penitentiary for rape.

Taylor, 41, figured a jury would be less hostile to a rape defendant represented by a woman, according to one of his friends. Cummings agreed to the request, scanned the list of available female attorneys (there were only a half dozen in the county at the time) and assigned Rodham, who had virtually no experience in criminal litigation.

“Hillary told me she didn’t want to take that case, she made that very clear,” recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order.

Rodham immersed herself in Taylor’s defense as the law school’s spring semester came to an end. “She worked a lot of nights on it,” said Van Gearhart, her teaching assistant at the law clinic in 1975. “I remember her doing that because she wanted to show that she was willing to take court appointments, hoping that the bar would help us in getting established as a clinic.”

Gibson said the same thing during a 2014 CNN interview about the case, adding that Hillary had attempted unsuccessfully to get the judge to remove her from the case:

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-f ... -about-it/

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