Cheating at Self Service Checkouts!
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- Redneck
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Cheating at Self Service Checkouts!
I would love to be game to try this....trouble is I am too bloody honest!
And scared of getting caught!
Self-service checkouts normalise, excuse supermarket stealing, research shows
By Emma Wynne
The rise of self-service checkouts is prompting more people to steal, research shows, with many using the impersonal nature of the experience to justify their theft.
Research from the United Kingdom found self-service checkouts allowed people to normalise and excuse stealing, even among those who would never consider theft in any other setting.
Professor Larry Neil from Queensland University of Technology's business school told 720 ABC Perth that psychologically self-service checkouts made stealing easier because they distanced customers from the business.
"Self-serve checkouts provide that distance between you and the organisation or an identifiable victim," Professor Neil said.
"The customer can't point to someone and say, 'that person is going to lose money if I steal from this store'."
Resentment of the major supermarket chains was also used as an excuse by shoppers to wrongly enter information or drop items into their bags without scanning them, Professor Neil said.
"Some of their reputation in the community as being against farmers gives reasons for shoppers to do the wrong thing," he said.
Scanning everything as carrots
Talkback callers to 720 ABC Perth revealed the practice of not paying full price for every item or outright stealing when doing their own checkout was widespread.
"I was in a large hardware store the other day," Sebastian said via SMS.
"There was one person on a checkout with a huge line and someone else directing everyone to the self-service.
"Out of anger I justified to myself not scanning a quite expensive item."
A female cashier works in a Supermarket.
Photo: Some talkback listeners are upset that machines are replacing humans at the registers. (Getty Images: Andreas Rentz, file photo)
Another listener Mike wrote:
"Take what you can get I reckon — if they aren't going pay for customer service then customers will serve themselves."
"My putting through cherries as carrots is justified by the big guns' treatment of farmers," Marion said.
"My wife started swiping items at the self-service about two years ago," another caller said.
"I think she feels a thrill for getting a bargain.
"I refuse to go shopping with her now but don't mind if she brings me home some cheap salmon."
Protest theft
Caller Larry said he regularly entered items falsely as a protest against self-service checkouts.
"If they are going to make me self-serve and reduce the employment for our youth, I will help myself to almonds and mushrooms at potato prices and make sure I hit their bottom line," Frank said.
"The guilt doesn't seem to come up, I feel like I'm getting a bargain."
Frank said he was also a shareholder in both Coles and Woolworths but was undeterred by the costs of theft on the businesses.
"They are just putting so many people on the unemployment line and it disgusts me," he said.
Theft costing billions
Professor Neil said he estimated the overall cost of theft from supermarkets in Australia would be billions of dollars each year.
"They do absorb more of that risk because they are saving so much on labour costs," he said.
He suggested that rather than employing more staff, retailers might move to smarter technology that is harder to fool in the future.
"When it comes to the point where you just scan the basket without taking the items out individually, then this kind of behaviour might stop, or at least be curbed; or move to a different part of the store."
And not all listeners agreed with gaming self-serve checkouts to steal.
"Who raised these listeners?" Julie said via SMS.
"It's stealing, people. Not a bargain. I always do the right thing on self-serve.
"I could not sleep at night if I didn't."
Meanwhile, Michael asked: "Theft from supermarkets will be made up by them paying their suppliers less — how does that help farmers?"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-21/s ... ch/7648910
And scared of getting caught!
Self-service checkouts normalise, excuse supermarket stealing, research shows
By Emma Wynne
The rise of self-service checkouts is prompting more people to steal, research shows, with many using the impersonal nature of the experience to justify their theft.
Research from the United Kingdom found self-service checkouts allowed people to normalise and excuse stealing, even among those who would never consider theft in any other setting.
Professor Larry Neil from Queensland University of Technology's business school told 720 ABC Perth that psychologically self-service checkouts made stealing easier because they distanced customers from the business.
"Self-serve checkouts provide that distance between you and the organisation or an identifiable victim," Professor Neil said.
"The customer can't point to someone and say, 'that person is going to lose money if I steal from this store'."
Resentment of the major supermarket chains was also used as an excuse by shoppers to wrongly enter information or drop items into their bags without scanning them, Professor Neil said.
"Some of their reputation in the community as being against farmers gives reasons for shoppers to do the wrong thing," he said.
Scanning everything as carrots
Talkback callers to 720 ABC Perth revealed the practice of not paying full price for every item or outright stealing when doing their own checkout was widespread.
"I was in a large hardware store the other day," Sebastian said via SMS.
"There was one person on a checkout with a huge line and someone else directing everyone to the self-service.
"Out of anger I justified to myself not scanning a quite expensive item."
A female cashier works in a Supermarket.
Photo: Some talkback listeners are upset that machines are replacing humans at the registers. (Getty Images: Andreas Rentz, file photo)
Another listener Mike wrote:
"Take what you can get I reckon — if they aren't going pay for customer service then customers will serve themselves."
"My putting through cherries as carrots is justified by the big guns' treatment of farmers," Marion said.
"My wife started swiping items at the self-service about two years ago," another caller said.
"I think she feels a thrill for getting a bargain.
"I refuse to go shopping with her now but don't mind if she brings me home some cheap salmon."
Protest theft
Caller Larry said he regularly entered items falsely as a protest against self-service checkouts.
"If they are going to make me self-serve and reduce the employment for our youth, I will help myself to almonds and mushrooms at potato prices and make sure I hit their bottom line," Frank said.
"The guilt doesn't seem to come up, I feel like I'm getting a bargain."
Frank said he was also a shareholder in both Coles and Woolworths but was undeterred by the costs of theft on the businesses.
"They are just putting so many people on the unemployment line and it disgusts me," he said.
Theft costing billions
Professor Neil said he estimated the overall cost of theft from supermarkets in Australia would be billions of dollars each year.
"They do absorb more of that risk because they are saving so much on labour costs," he said.
He suggested that rather than employing more staff, retailers might move to smarter technology that is harder to fool in the future.
"When it comes to the point where you just scan the basket without taking the items out individually, then this kind of behaviour might stop, or at least be curbed; or move to a different part of the store."
And not all listeners agreed with gaming self-serve checkouts to steal.
"Who raised these listeners?" Julie said via SMS.
"It's stealing, people. Not a bargain. I always do the right thing on self-serve.
"I could not sleep at night if I didn't."
Meanwhile, Michael asked: "Theft from supermarkets will be made up by them paying their suppliers less — how does that help farmers?"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-21/s ... ch/7648910
- Neferti
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Re: Cheating at Self Service Checkouts!
I absolutely refuse to use self service checkouts .... when I go to Woollies I have a stack of items .... we get charged for the checkout person to scan them ... and pack them and be nice to me "the customer". Self Service should give you a 20% discount or something.
I remember once, many long years ago, selecting something in David Jones, walking to the counter, money in hand (before credit cards) and waiting, waiting, waiting to be "served". It did cross my mind that, maybe, I should start walking to the door to get ATTENTION .... but I didn't ....
I remember once, many long years ago, selecting something in David Jones, walking to the counter, money in hand (before credit cards) and waiting, waiting, waiting to be "served". It did cross my mind that, maybe, I should start walking to the door to get ATTENTION .... but I didn't ....
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Re: Cheating at Self Service Checkouts!
I won't use the self service checkouts. The few times I have been forced to something went wrong and I had to call a staff member over anyway.
If you need more than one bag it always has a hissy fit when you take the first bag off and try to use a second.
I want mine scanned and packed and not by me.
If you need more than one bag it always has a hissy fit when you take the first bag off and try to use a second.
I want mine scanned and packed and not by me.
- AiA in Atlanta
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The self-service checkout at the store nearest me is calibrated so finely, meaning the weight of the groceries when you set them down, that cheating is impossible. Others that don't have such a finely calibrated system here in the States have someone watching your every move like a hawk, so much so the store might as well employ her as a check-out clerk
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Re: Cheating at Self Service Checkouts!
It's the same principle with pirated music and videos.
- Redneck
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Re: Cheating at Self Service Checkouts!
They weigh them here as wellAiA in Atlanta wrote:The self-service checkout at the store nearest me is calibrated so finely, meaning the weight of the groceries when you set them down, that cheating is impossible. Others that don't have such a finely calibrated system here in the States have someone watching your every move like a hawk, so much so the store might as well employ her as a check-out clerk
I think the items they are substituting are bought by weight, fruit and veg, where they select the item off the screen eg substitute cheap carrots for cherries
- Outlaw Yogi
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Re: Cheating at Self Service Checkouts!
I've never used a self serve checkout either, although a couple of times staff have picked me out of a queue and ran my items through the self serve contraption. But then except for computers I've never even had a CD or DVD player, or downloaded an app to a computer or phone.
I get a sinister pleasure seeing people dependant on their app have hissy fits when it fails to function as it should.
Y'know plastic tags on commonly stolen items with RFID chips in them, that have to be removed before walking past the posts with RFID chip readers which sound an alarm?
Well, expect the RFID chip to be inside the packaging of most items in the near future, and scanning the item will deactivate the chip.
Well, partially. I read an article years ago claiming many manufacturers are inserting RFID chip in their products so they can track the item's lifespan from the factory to the tip.
I get a sinister pleasure seeing people dependant on their app have hissy fits when it fails to function as it should.
Y'know plastic tags on commonly stolen items with RFID chips in them, that have to be removed before walking past the posts with RFID chip readers which sound an alarm?
Well, expect the RFID chip to be inside the packaging of most items in the near future, and scanning the item will deactivate the chip.
Well, partially. I read an article years ago claiming many manufacturers are inserting RFID chip in their products so they can track the item's lifespan from the factory to the tip.
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- mantra
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Re: Cheating at Self Service Checkouts!
It wouldn't be worth the embarrassment if you were caught.Redneck wrote:I would love to be game to try this....trouble is I am too bloody honest!
And scared of getting caught!
I use self service a lot, although it annoys me. Usually there aren't enough checkouts open and the queues are too long so you don't have much choice. I resent it though especially if I've done a lot of shopping. Coles in particular has really annoying machines. If you don't move fast enough - they prompt you by continually asking if you've finished. Half the time there's no-one there to help you if the machine is temperamental. Check your bank account if you've used a Woolworths' machine and keep your receipt. On one occasion I found a duplicate payment and on another a triplicate payment which the bank will refund quickly if you catch the error within 24 hours.
- Neferti
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Re: Cheating at Self Service Checkouts!
In Canberra, the Labor/Green Government stopped shops (including supermarkets) handing out "free" bags to carry your purchases home. They sell the things. Here is something about Self Service Checkouts (and bags) on the Canberran local news site the RiotACT ....
http://the-riotact.com/no-pricing-at-wo ... ags/180929A few days ago, I was at my local Woolworths getting groceries, and was paying at the self checkout.
At the checkout next to me, an elderly gentleman from out of state, on his first visit to Canberra, was also paying for his groceries.
All of a sudden, a Woolworths team member comes almost running up, and loudly accuses the gentleman of trying to steal the plastic bag, as he had not scanned it.
The gentleman protested that he didn’t know he had to pay for a bag, and then pointed out that there is no sign saying this, nor a price indicating how much the payment even is.
After he left, I did some subtle snooping, and confirmed that at all six self checkout registers, all had bags, but none had any signage indicating they were to be paid for, and none had a price listed either. See the photo above for an example of 1 of the checkouts. Note I have not cropped out any nearby sign from the photo, there really is none.
So are we all just meant to know that the bags cost money? How are out of state visitors meant to know? Tourists are still mainly used to not paying for bags where they come from, so I can understand the gentleman’s confusion and frustration at his experience.
Under ACT Fair Trading law, my understanding is that the lack of the price itself is actually a breach of the act, and I will be following this up with Fair Trading ACT and Woolworths Media inquiries. Meanwhile what do you Rioters think of this?
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